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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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We need more character alts
Seriously, I don't know why they wouldn't sell us alternate costumes.

Like ****, why would you use your art team to make goddamn MII OUTFITS, instead of actual things people will pay way more money for?
 

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Yeah there's way too much fat Yoshi...
There should be way more muscular buff Yoshis.
 

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I wanted Pikachu's final smash to be changed to Catastropika, but then I remembered that would require a trainer to chuck him into oblivion.
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Seriously, I don't know why they wouldn't sell us alternate costumes.

Like ****, why would you use your art team to make goddamn MII OUTFITS, instead of actual things people will pay way more money for?
Because...

uh...

Hey, look over there! *runs*
 

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Been playing the Luigi’s Mansion remake on 3DS for the first time

It’s a great game for sure but I don’t get why everyone prefers it over Dark Moon. It was way more mechanically interesting and varied. It also had way more content with the multiplayer mode and being roughly twice as long as the original. the portrait ghosts are about the only thing I’d say the first game does better but their absence hardly ruins Dark Moon like i’ve seen so many people claim
 

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I wanted to post this up a while ago but never got the chance to because of reasons.

I’ve been thinking a lot about Final Smashes and potential ones for upcoming potential newcomers. What Final Smashes do you think these characters may have? This also includes potential Echoes and thier either Echofied FS (Dark samus) or unique ones (Chrom).

Skull Kid
Impa
Dixie Kong
Geno
Isaac
Incinceror
Dedidueye
Bandana Dee
Black Shadow
Black Knight
Medusa
Mach Rider
Mike Jones
Ayumi Tachibana
Rhythm Heaven character
Elma
Rex and Pyra
Springman
Fatal Frame character
Agnes Oblige
Sora
Ken
Dante
Lloyd Irving
Heihachi
Agumon
Shadow the Hedgehog
Doctor Eggman
Banjo-Kazooie
Steve?
Master Chief
Ray Man
Assassin’s Creed character
Dragonborn
Pip-Boy
Doomslayer
Son Goku
I'll just answer the ones I can.

Dragonborn - Call Dragon

Summons Odahviing with a Shout, who then roars loudly and annihilates affected enemies with a fully charged Fire Breath Shout.
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Vault Boy (lol pip-boy) - War Never Changes

Opens up the Pip-Boy and opens up a screen with a holographic button. He then presses it, and then gives his signature thumbs up as a missile from above lands behind him, destroying the surrounding enemies.
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Steve? - Ender Dragon

Steve? brings up an Ender Dragon Egg, throws it into the air, immediately hatching into a fully grown Ender Dragon, who fires purple fireballs similar to Ness and Lucas's FS's.
 

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Non-Relevant post but i have a huge feeling that we might be hearing some kind of news this week. It seems like the best time of the month to kick the news in.
Either this week or November in my eyes, What do you guys think?
 
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Would it be off topic to ask what everyone's top 5 DS games are?
This game doesn't have enough Marths.
Super Marth Bros Ultimate: Central Fiction Arena Ulitmax Under Night Inbirth EX Arcade Edition Volume 5 Featuring Ike from the Wiafu Emblem series & Roy!
Did I do it right?
 
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Been playing the Luigi’s Mansion remake on 3DS for the first time

It’s a great game for sure but I don’t get why everyone prefers it over Dark Moon. It was way more mechanically interesting and varied. It also had way more content with the multiplayer mode and being roughly twice as long as the original. the portrait ghosts are about the only thing I’d say the first game does better but their absence hardly ruins Dark Moon like i’ve seen so many people claim
From what i seen anyone who ive met who didnt like dark moon just didnt like the Mission Structure to it. Otherwise theyd been totally fine with it
 

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Or they could go all-out and give him Omegamon.

(Yes, I call this form "Omegamon" and not "Omnimon", I prefer the original name because it makes it's ties to Alphamon more apparent)
I feel like if they included Agumon, Sakurai would opt for a retro inspired digivolutions... Being Greymon and Metal Greymon... Where as the others originated in an anime.
 

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Would it be off topic to ask what everyone's top 5 DS games are?
1. Pokemon Black and White
2. Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver
3. Pokemon Black 2 and White 2
4. Pokemon Platinum
5. New Super Mario Bros

Yes, I am a Chibi-Robo fan. Thanks for asking.
 
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TheMilkmann

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Would it be off topic to ask what everyone's top 5 DS games are?

Super Marth Bros Ultimate: Central Fiction Arena Ulitmax Under Night Inbirth EX Arcade Edition Volume 5 Featuring Ike from the Wiafu Emblem series!
Did I do it right?
Any way to work Knuckles in there? Never touched a FE game so idk if there is an "equivalent"
 

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Seriously, I don't know why they wouldn't sell us alternate costumes.

Like ****, why would you use your art team to make goddamn MII OUTFITS, instead of actual things people will pay way more money for?
Would pay good money for...

:ultbowser: Dry version + Odyssey tux
:ultkrool: Kaptain outfit (any of his outfits really, but Kaptain is a must)
:ultwolf: Brawl/Command design
:ultcloud: Kingdom Hearts outfit
:ultsimon: Chronicles version
:ultmegaman: Helmetless Rock
:ultsnake: MGS1 Sneaking Suit + Old Snake
:ultpalutena: NES design

During Smash 4 I did want a Masked Dedede alt, but I'm glad it's his Final Smash now at least.
 
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1. Pokemon Black and White
2. Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver
3. Pokemon Black 2 and White 2
4. Pokemon Platinum
5. New Super Mario Bros

As you can obviously see, i'm a Chibi-Robo fan.
Lol, I can see that. Man, Black and White sure have become the "The Wind Waker" of Pokemon.

Well, as for my favorite DS titles;
#1: Castlevania: Portait of Ruin
#2: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky
#3: Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
#4: Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
#5: Contra 4
Honorable Mentions Go To: The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, Castlevania: Order of Ecclisia, Pokemon Platinum.
 
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Dixie's final smash could have a cinematic animal buddy rampage, Rambi, Ellie, Enguarde, Squitter,etc all charging at the opponent at once or a certain group of them attacking the opponent separately with each move. Would be a nice touch recognizing the animal buddies, who are a staple of the series, in particular the original trilogy and many of which would make great assist trophies. Don't think there is much else out there for Dixie, perhaps a guitar related attack but that sounds less exciting.

Maybe dress it up as a Kong concert and have Lanky on the trombone, Chunky with the triangle and Tiny on the Sax. Haha.

Banjo Kazooie - Apart from the obvious Jinjonator, the Daddy T Rex transformation from Banjo Tooie. Or possibly a cinematic which sees them launch into the air off a flight pad, shooting eggs mid air at the opponent before finally Beak Bombing them to finish off.

Yeah there's way too much fat Yoshi...
There should be way more muscular buff Yoshis.
What if you like your Yoshi's Extra Thicc?

 
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KMDP

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I wanted to post this up a while ago but never got the chance to because of reasons.

I’ve been thinking a lot about Final Smashes and potential ones for upcoming potential newcomers. What Final Smashes do you think these characters may have? This also includes potential Echoes and thier either Echofied FS (Dark samus) or unique ones (Chrom).

Skull Kid
Impa
Dixie Kong
Geno
Isaac
Incinceror
Dedidueye
Bandana Dee
Black Shadow
Black Knight
Medusa
Mach Rider
Mike Jones
Ayumi Tachibana
Rhythm Heaven character
Elma
Rex and Pyra
Springman
Fatal Frame character
Agnes Oblige
Sora
Ken
Dante
Lloyd Irving
Heihachi
Agumon
Shadow the Hedgehog
Doctor Eggman
Banjo-Kazooie
Steve?
Master Chief
Ray Man
Assassin’s Creed character
Dragonborn
Pip-Boy
Doomslayer
Son Goku
I'll try and answer as many as I can.
Skull Kid - The Moon (the obvious answer)
Dixie Kong - "Guitar Riff" (similar to DK's Konga Beat Final Smash, but is shorter and requires no inputs)
Isaac - Judgment (similar to Lucario's Aura Storm, but a single, large shot instead of )
Black Knight - Eclipse (five powerful slashes)
Agumon - Omegamon: Grey Sword and Garuru Cannon (comes down in the background and slashes once with his sword, then fires a shot from his cannon, the slash would have a wide hit-box that touches most of Final Destination's ground)
[Dub only Digimon fans will know these attacks as the Transcendent Sword and Supreme Cannon]
Shadow the Hedgehog - Super Shadow [Similar to Sonic's new Super Sonic FS, but deals less damage with each strike and ends with a Chaos Burst)
Doctor Eggman - Death Egg Robot [functionally similar to the new Giga Bowser]
Assassin's Creed character - I'd actually go for "Assassin Recruits", a mechanic from Assassin's Creed Brotherhood (among others) where other Assassins come out of nowhere and help the Player Character
Son Goku - Spirit Bomb, or if he has to be Super Saiyan in battle "Meteor Smash"
 

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Been playing the Luigi’s Mansion remake on 3DS for the first time

It’s a great game for sure but I don’t get why everyone prefers it over Dark Moon. It was way more mechanically interesting and varied. It also had way more content with the multiplayer mode and being roughly twice as long as the original. the portrait ghosts are about the only thing I’d say the first game does better but their absence hardly ruins Dark Moon like i’ve seen so many people claim
As someone who has the orginal in their top ten games of all time, I will admit some of it is nostalgia. I love Dark Moon and do believe mechanically it does a lot better, but there is something truly special about the original. It feels so different compared to other Mario games and really stands out thanks to its more realistic artstyle compared to DM's more cartoony style. Also, while no portrait ghosts didn't hurt DM in the end thanks to its superb puzzles and enjoyable settings, I will also say that it would have been nice to have them. The mission based gameplay also hurt the game a bit. I mean, how much it hurt is REALLY exaggerated IMO, but it was a bit of a problem regardless. LM1's free exploration, while linear in progression, was more seamless and natural feeling than constantly being interrupted during exploration in DM.

I think LM3 has a chance to dethrone LM1. The tight level design of DM with LM1's exploration? Yes please! :)
 
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Speaking of DS, I just got Dragon Quest IX. So far, it looks like it'll be a standard medieval story, but with angels or something like that. Gameplay's pretty typical for a JRPG.
 
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I feel like if they included Agumon, Sakurai would opt for a retro inspired digivolutions... Being Greymon and Metal Greymon... Where as the others originated in an anime.
WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon originated in the "Digimon Pendulum 5.0: Metal Empire", well before their first appearance in the anime.

Omegamon's first appearance was in "Digimon Adventure; Anode Tamer" (a video game released in 1999, months before "Digimon Adventure: Our War Game!",, known to Westerners as Part 2 of Digimon: The Movie, "Our War Game!" came out in March 2000 in Japan), but it also appeared in "Digimon Pendulum ZERO: Virus Busters". which came out in the same month as "Our War Game!".
 
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Speaking of DS, I just got Dragon Quest IX. So far, it looks like it'll be a standard medieval story, but with angels or something like that. Gameplay's pretty typical for a JRPG.
Dragon Quest IX has to be one of my favourite DS games, and may even be in my top favourite games of all time. It is so rare to find a JRPG that you can play through the whole story with friends in multiplayer.
 
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Dragon Quest IX has to be one of my favourite DS games, and may even be in my top favourite games of all time. It is so rare to find a JRPG that you can play through the whole story with friends in multiplayer.
Oh it has multiplayer? Huh, didn't know that. Well, I hope I end up liking the game as much as you do! :)
If you have to ask, then it's best you don't know :yoshi:
A-Alrighty then...
 

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Would it be off topic to ask what everyone's top 5 DS games are?
Pokemon Soul Silver
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Phantasy Star 0
Super Scribblenauts
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon

Star Fox Command, Sonic Rush, Super Mario 64 DS, Resident Evil Deadly Silence and 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors are all runners up.
 
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Pokemon Soul Silver
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Phantasy Star 0
Super Scribblenauts
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon

Star Fox Command, Sonic Rush, Super Mario 64 DS, Resident Evil Deadly Silence and 9 Hours, 9 Doors, 9 Persons are all runners up.
I've heard about Days of Ruin. Wasn't it considered the "Black Sheep" of the Advance Wars series?
Aslo, I forgot about 999. That was also a good game.
 

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I've heard about Days of Ruin. Wasn't it considered the "Black Sheep" of the Advance Wars series?
Aslo, I forgot about 999. That was also a good game.
It is. But it was actually my first one, so I have an emotional attachment to it. Plus I liked the gritty aesthetic.

I seem to have a thing for black sheep, apparently. (Days of Ruin, Resident Evil 5, Dragon Age 2, Twilight Princess, Bionic Commando in general...)
 
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