Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pakky]

Anyone feeling fat and sassy?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Same can be said for Waluigi and Lyn, even if Sakurai didn't said anything outright about them. I think Skull Kid has a chance but I don't think he's the only one in the same boat with Ridley ()

I agree, but we still haven't seen his Assist Trophy yet, so he has better chance than Waluigi or Lyn who have already been confirmed as Assist Trophies for Ultimate.

 

[osby]

Well, he did have... this to say about Waluigi.

https://i.redd.it/0zqmz5gto4r01.jpg

"Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle" seems to about sum up his opinion of the character.

EDIT: Damn image breaking...

Oh, yeah, that one is a classic. It's a good reminder that not every character with fan support is going to be playable.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Here I am trying to upload fake joke leaks and the site is having trouble smh

What's the site doing? I dont notice any issues..

 

[Wyoming]

K. Rool and the Kremlings definitely should return and the Tikis and Snowmads were bland enemies with blander leaders. Sadly I've accepted the Rareware magic touch on DKC will always be gone but they could give us the same substance in terms of characters, gameplay (TF a big improvement in that department), and other features solely missed (i.e: Animal Buddies)

It would conclude this trilogy excellently to bring back the original and best villain from the series alongside forgotten gameplay aspects.

Also Lanky would add so much as a playable Kong. Just saying...

 

[WaddleMatt]

Even in this drought of information lets just appreciate for a moment we have LESS THAN 2 MONTHS until this game releases, E3 felt like last week and time has flew by. Gonna be honest, I don't remember the last time I was this excited for a game. No matter what characters, modes and stages are left to be revealed I will be satisfied as we have been truely spoiled (yes even if we somehow don't get Bandana Dee ) this time and I think that is something we should all appreciate as a community.

God, I'm so damn excited for this.

 

[osby]

Anyone feeling fat and sassy?

I just feel sassy.

 

[Noipoi]

Anyone feeling fat and sassy?

I'm feeling skinny and sassy, if that counts.

 

[Pakky]

I just feel sassy.

I'm feeling skinny and sassy, if that counts.

I just feel fat I ate two huge bean burritos and now I have to go back to work...

The struggle is real.

 

[StormC]

K. Rool and the Kremlings definitely should return and the Tikis and Snowmads were bland enemies with blander leaders. Sadly I've accepted the Rareware magic touch on DKC will always be gone but they could give us the same substance in terms of characters, gameplay (TF a big improvement in that department), and other features solely missed (i.e: Animal Buddies)

It would conclude this trilogy excellently to bring back the original and best villain from the series alongside forgotten gameplay aspects.

Also Lanky would add so much as a playable Kong. Just saying...

I actually like the Snowmads quite a bit even if I couldn't shake the feeling that they were just Arctic Kremlings at times. Even Bashmaster was a pretty cool boss design and would have made a cool leader to them. It's just... Fredrik is completely disposable.

I think a big thing for me and the Retro games is how loud and busy they are. The SNES trilogy has a certain intimacy to it, the camera is zoomed in closer and there aren't constant sound effects every second with lots going on screen. Retro wanted to expand the scope of the gameplay, and they've made two great platformers, but there has been something lost in the transition to a modern era.

Still, give us another game with Kremlings and Animal Buddies and I won't complain, even if I miss being able to play as non-DK Kongs. If 3D World can figure it out, surely DKC can.

 

[Robertman2]

I could see Skull Kid getting in the same way Ridley did. Sakurai made it perfectly cleared that he was a Assist Trophy and not a playable character when he showed him off in the pic of the day back then so he knows he's popular. So I could see Sakurai making it up to the Skull Kid fans like did with the Ridley fans for Ultimate.

Sakurai did the same for every assist trophy, including the deconfirmed Waluigi, Takamaru and Ashley.
Also Skull Kid didn't have this much support until Loz18 and the chairs.

 

[Llort A. Ton]

It's getting harder to procrastinate. Please give me something to distract myself with for unusual amounts of time, Sakurai.

 

[Robertman2]

It's getting harder to procrastinate. Please give me something to distract myself with for unusual amounts of time, Sakurai.

play other games

 

[Pazzo.]

What's the site doing? I dont notice any issues..

I wasn't letting me upload my meme.

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

Anyone feeling fat and sassy?

DOYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

KAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

(God I hope we're on the same page)

 

[Pakky]

DOYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

KAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

(God I hope we're on the same page)

Yes, yes we are. :D

 

[Deleted member]

I wasn't letting me upload my meme.

This is the worst possible thing that could've happened. Memes are what sustain this thread while we wait for news! They're what keeps balance!

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

play other games

Like Smash 4

 

[Pakky]

Like Smash 4

What the hell is that?

That ain't got no Rool in it! D:

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Oh, yeah, that one is a classic. It's a good reminder that not every character with fan support isn't going to be playable.

I think the reason characters like Ridley and King K. Rool got in wasn't just because of their massive fan support, but because of their importance to their series and Nintendo as a whole. If they were just one off villains, then Sakurai wouldn't have put them in the roster in the first place regardless of their massive fan support. Those two are the two biggest Nintendo villains behind Bowser and Ganondorf, so they have too big of a legacy to just be over looked.

 

[Deleted member]

Like Smash 4

Pfft, forget that nonsense. I vote we start holding tournaments for Shrek Super Slam while we wait.

 

[StormC]

I've been replaying the Mega Man games after going through 11 through the Legacy Collections.

Man, I really need to know what the Mega Man song selection is this time. I hope we get more X tunes than just the highway theme.

 

[Pazzo.]

This is the worst possible thing that could've happened. Memes are what sustain this thread while we wait for news! They're what keeps balance!

The mods found out I am Vergeben #2050.

 

[Robertman2]

i want to send nomura into the sun for this roxas fight

 

[CosmicQuark]

Hot Take: people might be sleeping on Andy (advance wars), Phoenix Wright, Professor Layton, Tingle, Paper Mario and Travis Touchdown. I don't think they are all likely, but they are all in a certain range of possible but not ultra popular online (a small percentage of overall smashers)

There's so much hype around a certain group of 5-7 fighters that people seem so sure they know what's left.

The trend with reveals so far seems to be misdirection. Sakurai is trying to surprise us. Some people catch on quick, but I've watched a lot of reaction videos that follow these trends -

Reveal Trailer - Splatoon? Splatoon 1 port? Wait. SMASH!?!

Without the music leak for Simon people would have been surprised, like they were for Richter.

K. rool was legit sakurai having a laugh at us (from what I can gather, he and his team watch/have watched reaction videos. he voices dedede) with the dedede impostor gag

Isabelle - Animal Crossing??? Smash!!? Oh she's just a Villager ech-wait she's not an echo! Tom Nook for smash? wait... ANIMAL CROSSING?

I agree that there are certain characters not talked about that may become incredibly important--in particular, I think Travis Touchdown has the best chance to become our first indie character, moreso than Shovel Knight (now an assist) and Shantae. Very popular with Japanese audiences, and is inextricably tied with Nintendo, being a part in the first press conference for the Nintendo Switch. That being said, with the limited amount of newcomers we have left, and the characters that are rumored, I think he'll likely be DLC. Though, Travis Strikes Again comes in January 2019, so if they want to advertise it I don't think DLC will be that early. That is something important to note.

Also, for personal indulgence, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one in the general forums hyping Banjo & Kazooie for the base game, rather than DLC--the timing aligns perfectly, but my doubt is highly dependent on how many characters we have left. If there's one unique character outside of what has been rumored by Verge who's most likely to be in the base, it's them.

And I feel like Tingle has perhaps a similar amount of evidence to Skull Kid, despite being talked about far less, namely both being currently missing assist trophies. Tingle may have less moveset potential (but with artistic license could certainly be a character), but I feel like is more recognizable outside of Smash circles. That being said, as I generally feel like Ultimate's more of a game for the fans than appealing to outside, given everything we know so far, I still think Skull Kid, given his high popularity especially in the Brawl days, has a higher chance.

(and while I don't feel it should be necessary to say every time, I'm not talking about facts, these are my personal opinions)

 

[SvartWolf]

K. Rool and the Kremlings definitely should return and the Tikis and Snowmads were bland enemies with blander leaders. Sadly I've accepted the Rareware magic touch on DKC will always be gone but they could give us the same substance in terms of characters, gameplay (TF a big improvement in that department), and other features solely missed (i.e: Animal Buddies)

It would conclude this trilogy excellently to bring back the original and best villain from the series alongside forgotten gameplay aspects.

Also Lanky would add so much as a playable Kong. Just saying...

While i can't speak for the tikis.... the snowmads were great enemies, with tons of personality and character and people that find them boring but the kremlings amazing have had wayy too much spoons of nostalgia on their breakfast. (with maybe teh exception of the baboons :/ that weren't even polar creatures)

I wouldn't mind the kremlings coming back and it would be kinda cool.. but no need to downplay the snowmads like that :/ and i would ove if they keep them as alt enemies on the future lore.

Just sayin

 

[Noipoi]

Speaking of playing other games, a couple days ago I started playing Earthbound for the first time with my little sister, but I had to stop.
Whenever we play rpg's I like to do voices (i'm a top tier voice actor (no i'm not) ) but I got sick the day after and my voice acting capabilities have been seriously hindered.

 

[staindgrey]

Pfft, forget that nonsense. I vote we start holding tournaments for Shrek Super Slam while we wait.

**** that. Let's do Gundam Wing Endless Duel!

I need to use my very specific talent at a 1996 Japan-only SNES fighting game at some point in my life.

 

[Idon]

i want to send nomura into the sun for this roxas fight

Oh just wait till post-game...

 

[Fenriraga]

Anyone feeling fat and sassy?

Literally my life, my guy.

 

[Cosmic77]

K. Rool and the Kremlings definitely should return and the Tikis and Snowmads were bland enemies with blander leaders. Sadly I've accepted the Rareware magic touch on DKC will always be gone but they could give us the same substance in terms of characters, gameplay (TF a big improvement in that department), and other features solely missed (i.e: Animal Buddies)

It would conclude this trilogy excellently to bring back the original and best villain from the series alongside forgotten gameplay aspects.

Also Lanky would add so much as a playable Kong. Just saying...

Even if they aren't as memorable as K. Rool, the Tikis and Snowmads are severely underappreciated. Instead of slapping on K. Rool and the Kremlings as the games' antagonists, Nintendo made a whole new set of enemies and bosses, none of which are really as bad as people say they are.

I get that K. Rool is popular, but like I said earlier, I think Smash is genuinely the only reason why people want/wanted the Kremlings back so much. If we were in an alternate universe where K. Rool made it in Smash and both DKCR games featured the Kremlings as the antagonists, I can almost guarantee you that people would've complained of overexposure. "K. Rool is literally Bowser 2.0. Can't we get a unique villain for once instead reusing the same ones over and over?"

 

[StormC]

You have ten seconds to post your favorite Mega Man game and your favorite song from the series that you'd like to see in Smash.

(my favorites are actually 2, 10 and X, but I do like 6 a lot)

 

[Deleted member]

i want to send nomura into the sun for this roxas fight

What difficulty are you on? I'm slowly working on the KH collections myself (I nearly finished 1.5 last year, but restarted it a week or so ago to play that sweet, sweet 60 FPS version on PS4 instead), and I'm kinda scared to try any of the games above normal, lol.

Speaking of playing other games, a couple days ago I started playing Earthbound for the first time with my little sister, but I had to stop.
Whenever we play rpg's I like to do voices (i'm a top tier voice actor (no i'm not) ) but I got sick the day after and my voice acting capabilities have been seriously hindered.

What do you think of what you've played so far? I always love seeing people try the series. (Also, hope you're feeling better! Just getting over being sick myself.)

 

[Deleted member]

Speaking of playing other games, a couple days ago I started playing Earthbound for the first time with my little sister, but I had to stop.
Whenever we play rpg's I like to do voices (i'm a top tier voice actor (no i'm not) ) but I got sick the day after and my voice acting capabilities have been seriously hindered.

I actually just order Golden Sun on Amazon. Hope it's good.

I agree that there are certain characters not talked about that may become incredibly important--in particular, I think Travis Touchdown has the best chance to become our first indie character, moreso than Shovel Knight (now an assist) and Shantae. Very popular with Japanese audiences, and is inextricably tied with Nintendo, being a part in the first press conference for the Nintendo Switch. That being said, with the limited amount of newcomers we have left, and the characters that are rumored, I think he'll likely be DLC. Though, Travis Strikes Again comes in January 2019, so if they want to advertise it I don't think DLC will be that early. That is something important to note.

Also, for personal indulgence, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one in the general forums hyping Banjo & Kazooie for the base game, rather than DLC--the timing aligns perfectly, but my doubt is highly dependent on how many characters we have left. If there's one unique character outside of what has been rumored by Verge who's most likely to be in the base, it's them.

And I feel like Tingle has perhaps a similar amount of evidence to Skull Kid, despite being talked about far less, namely both being currently missing assist trophies. Tingle may have less moveset potential (but with artistic license could certainly be a character), but I feel like is more recognizable outside of Smash circles. That being said, as I generally feel like Ultimate's more of a game for the fans than appealing to outside, given everything we know so far, I still think Skull Kid, given his high popularity especially in the Brawl days, has a higher chance.

(and while I don't feel it should be necessary to say every time, I'm not talking about facts, these are my personal opinions)

If you ask me, the characters I feel aren't being talked about enough are Leon, Dante, and Ryu Hayabusa. EDIT: A Dragon Quest character too.

Anyone feeling fat and sassy?

Uhh...no? Not really?

 

[Peeton]

I’m not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what if the E3 Demo was our final roster? Wouldn’t that be a crazy roster? What do you guys think?

 

[Deleted member]

I’m not sure if anyone has asked this yet, but what if the E3 Demo was our final roster? Wouldn’t that be a crazy roster? What do you guys think?

Roster was a 10/10 at E3, so no complaints on my end.

EDIT: Oh, you mean the demo...uh...no Shulk's an issue, but I’ve still got Ness and Ryu. Solid 7/10 roster.

 

[StormC]

Even if they aren't as memorable as K. Rool, the Tikis and Snowmads are severely underappreciated. Instead of slapping on K. Rool and the Kremlings as the games' antagonists, Nintendo made a whole new set of enemies and bosses, none of which are really as bad as people say they are.

I get that K. Rool is popular, but like I said earlier, I think Smash is genuinely the only reason why people want/wanted the Kremlings back so much. If we were in an alternate universe where K. Rool made it in Smash and both DKCR games featured the Kremlings as the antagonists, I can almost guarantee you that people would've complained of overexposure. "K. Rool is literally Bowser 2.0. Can't we get a unique villain for once instead reusing the same ones over and over?"

People were complaining about the lack of Kremlings in DKCR ever since it was announced. I know I was, although I was hopeful it would just be a one time thing and that they would be back in future games. Them being gone again in Tropical Freeze is what made me actually worried about their future.

If Miyamoto and Tanabe are any indication, if it wasn't for the overwhelming fan outcry, it's very possible the Kremlings and K. Rool would have vanished into thin air akin to the likes of Wart or Captain Syrup outside of occasional Smash cameos. While I liked the Snowmads (the Tikis were mostly forgettable but not awful or anything), all of the attempts to replace the main villain have failed, even going back to Jungle Beat. If it ain't broke and all that...

 

[Noipoi]

You have ten seconds to post your favorite Mega Man game and your favorite song from the series that you'd like to see in Smash.

That's physically impossible for me because i've never played a Mega Man game.

What do you think of what you've played so far? I always love seeing people try the series. (Also, hope you're feeling better! Just getting over being sick myself.)

I only got up to Twoson, before you get to the happy village. It's pretty wacky, and kinda hard. I'm still getting the hang of the battle mechanics.
The whole game has a really out-there feel to it, if that makes sense. I like it so far, but I haven't gotten far enough to really judge.
(i'm still sick and I hate it)

 

[Deleted member]

Earthbound is weird.

That's as much as i can say.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

Still disappointed Wart and Shy Guy aren't playable characters. Shy Guy would be S tier if given the chance.