Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[CosmicQuark]

So Verge denies being a hive mind. Of course, a hive mind would consider themselves a singular entity. Therefore Verge would deny it, being a hive mind. QED.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

I'd like several shorter melee-like adventure modes, some themed after a specific series, some themed around crossovers that make sense (I dunno, Sonic, Starfox and F-Zero).
Basically, a mix between Adventure and Event Matches.
And the return of Smash Run, even a copy-paste would be nice.

 

[Deleted member]

This, once again if anything this leads more toward the idea that this is an early build

Even if it ends up being fake, i feel like it still deserves credit.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

On a different note, why are people expecting a direct this month exactly? Yeah, it could confirm or deconfirm "those" theories, but it wouldn't matter since we also got November.

I guess mainly becuase we got a bunch of huge infodumps two months apart: E3 in June, the August direct, [October], then release. Not to mention the update on the YouTube playlist.

But I would have expected it at the beginning of October. At this point, it looks like the next bit of info will be the last, and it'll probably be here around the end of the month/beginning of November.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd like several shorter melee-like adventure modes, some themed after a specific series, some themed around crossovers that make sense (I dunno, Sonic, Starfox and F-Zero).
Basically, a mix between Adventure and Event Matches.
And the return of Smash Run, even a copy-paste would be nice.

I would also add the character interactions that Subspace had.

It was neat to see everyone interact with each other.

 

[Deleted member]

I guess mainly becuase we got a bunch of huge infodumps two months apart: E3 in June, the August direct, [October], then release. Not to mention the update on the YouTube playlist.

But I would have expected it at the beginning of October. At this point, it looks like the next bit of info will be the last, and it'll probably be here around the end of the month/beginning of November.

If a Direct releases on my birthday (unlikely, because it would be on a Sunday then), i wouldn't mind the wait.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

I would also add the character interactions that Subspace had.

It was neat to see everyone interact with each other.

Yeah some short cutscenes with character interaction would be nice... and especially, some original series-based platforming stages like Melee had some.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah some short cutscenes with character interaction would be nice... and especially, some original series-based platforming stages like Melee had some.

Exactly.

 

[osby]

I don't have a problem with original stages, Smash Run proved they can be good. Melee had the references right, but almost all stages were either already in the game or painfully linear.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Those Marvel 4 rumors sound really cool and sick. Which means it isn't happening.

Especially the ones involving Franziska Von Karma and Simon Blackquill alongside Phoenix Wright. *Sigh*

 

[Aurora Jenny]

I guess mainly becuase we got a bunch of huge infodumps two months apart: E3 in June, the August direct, [October], then release. Not to mention the update on the YouTube playlist.

But I would have expected it at the beginning of October. At this point, it looks like the next bit of info will be the last, and it'll probably be here around the end of the month/beginning of November.

That's a pretty good assumption really, considering LGPE launches mid-Nov. I mean, It's big enough that it wouldn't be overshadowed, but I don't see Ninty taking chances on this.

 

[Deleted member]

Especially the ones involving Franziska Von Karma and Simon Blackquill alongside Phoenix. *Sigh*

Sadly for me, we won't still get Super Skrull and Doctor Doom back.

 

[xAquaCrystal]

Am I the only one that does not like how 3rd parties seem to be the most rumored/expected characters for both base and DLC? I mean Ken, Geno, Banjo & Kazooie, Steve, Rayman, etc are all 3rd parties and the only prominent 1st party is Incineroar

Don’t get me wrong, I like some of those but I don’t want DLC to be mostly 3rd Parties like in Smash For.

I want 1st parties like:
Paper Mario
Dixie Kong
Impa
Bandana Waddle Dee
Medusa
Isaac
Elma
Pyra/Mythra
Octolings

Who is with me?

I honestly never cared if characters were 3rd party or 1st party. Since ultimate seem like a fan service game I will just be happy if people got the characters they wanted regardless of the party. There probably going to be a balance of 1st and 3rd party characters since there are fans who want the characters you have listed. This is coming from a person who most wanted characters are 1st and 3rd party characters lol.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Sadly for me, we won't still get Super Skrull and Doctor Doom back.

Why Not? Disney owns Fox now...

 

[Deleted member]

Why Not? Disney owns Fox now...

I fear that Capcom will make an excuse, because the deal is sealed in January.

Also, the rumours said that the new characters will be the ones planned for the original second batch of DLC.

I don't have a problem with original stages, Smash Run proved they can be good. Melee had the references right, but almost all stages were either already in the game or painfully linear.

I mean, if the original stages don't overshadow the ones for the franchises, i could find it fine.

 

[osby]

I mean, if the original stages don't overshadow the ones for the franchises, i could find it fine.

Don't double post.

Also, what do you mean by overshadowing?

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Am I the only one that does not like how 3rd parties seem to be the most rumored/expected characters for both base and DLC? I mean Ken, Geno, Banjo & Kazooie, Steve, Rayman, etc are all 3rd parties and the only prominent 1st party is Incineroar

Don’t get me wrong, I like some of those but I don’t want DLC to be mostly 3rd Parties like in Smash For.

Well in countering the DLC point. 3 3rd parties against, 4 1st parties isn’t mostly, in fact that was kind of a balance I liked.

 

[Deleted member]

Don't double post.

Also, what do you mean by overshadowing?

Having more original stages than worlds from franchises.

Sorry for the double post, i am practicing with the message system.

Well in countering the DLC point. 3 3rd parties against, 4 1st parties isn’t mostly, in fact that was kind of a balance I liked.

In that case i would like it if the DLC were:

-Crash Bandicoot
-Banjo
-Rayman
-Dixie Kong
-Sylux
-Isaac
-Elma

 

[osby]

Sorry for the double post, i am practicing with the message system.

It's okay.

Having more original stages than worlds from franchises.

Do you mean like in classic mode, where there are only two original stages? Yeah, I guess that would be balanced.

Personally I won't have a problem with original ones, considering we have like a hundred stages didn't originated in Smash already.

 

[SonicMario]

Well in countering the DLC point. 3 3rd parties against, 4 1st parties isn’t mostly, in fact that was kind of a balance I liked.

They probably meant actual Newcomers and not veterans. Which was 3 (Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta) to 1 (Corrin)

Sitll though, we can't deny that 3rd parties bring more people willing to buy then some of the 1st party options. The fact we already have at least 9 (Pending on 10 given Ken's inevitability) it's hard to see them slowing down for DLC when 1/7th of the roster will be 3rd party. 3rd Party companies are going to want to line up for the instant moolah Smash Ultimate DLC will give them.

 

[Wyoming]

Especially the ones involving Franziska Von Karma and Simon Blackquill alongside Phoenix. *Sigh*

It will come true.

And unknown to us, Smash gets...

Miles Edgeworth prosecutes the challengers!

 

[MSmariosonic]

They probably meant actual Newcomers and not veterans. Which was 3 (Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta) to 1 (Corrin)

Sitll though, we can't deny that 3rd parties bring more people willing to buy then some of the 1st party options. The fact we already have at least 9 (Pending on 10 given Ken's inevitability) it's hard to see them slowing down for DLC when 1/7th of the roster will be 3rd party. 3rd Party companies are going to want to line up for the instant moolah Smash Ultimate DLC will give them.

Thanks for reminding me that Smash is the biggest crossover in gaming history ever

December 7th will do many people's childhood good

 

[Deleted member]

Thanks for reminding me that Smash is the biggest crossover in gaming history ever

December 7th will do many people's childhood good

Even though i wish for Crash and Banjo, i agree about Ultimate feeling perfect already.

 

[Robertman2]

Wouldn't be surprised if Ryu, Cloud and Bayonetta sold better than the other DLCs bar Mewtwo

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Thanks for reminding me that Smash is the biggest crossover in gaming history ever

Is it possibly one of the biggest official crossovers in media history?

 

[Deleted member]

Is it possibly one of the biggest official crossovers in media history?

And "Who Framed Rogger Rabbid?" is close, but not in an equal size.

 

[Iridium]

Sigh. I wish there was more footage for me to analyze. I'm bored, not being able to do so. At least this set is good enough to watch over and over.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Yeah some short cutscenes with character interaction would be nice... and especially, some original series-based platforming stages like Melee had some.

I would love to see how certain characters would interact with one another. Especially Snake and Mewtwo.

 

[Deleted member]

Especially the ones involving Franziska Von Karma and Simon Blackquill alongside Phoenix Wright. *Sigh*

The-there are rumors saying Franziska Von Karma could be in a new MvC game...?

...Dangit, that is too good to be true, because that would be amazing.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Please do not double post. Edit your messages instead.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

And Who Framed Rogger Rabbid? is close, but not in an equal size.

Sure, Roger Rabbit has not just multiple Disney Characters, but also the Looney Tunes and Droopy and such, But I don't think it's quite as big as Smash in terms of how many franchises are crossing over...

 

[Deleted member]

Please do not double post. Edit your messages instead.

Sorry about that.

Since i am on a phone, i am still getting used to the website.

Sure, Roger Rabbit has not just multiple Disney Characters, but also the Looney Tunes and Droopy and such, But I don't think it's quite as big as Smash in terms of how many franchises are crossing over...

That's why it isn't as huge as Ultimate.

But it was still a big deal to see Warner and Disney characters together.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Is it possibly one of the biggest official crossovers in media history?

Perhaps

It just might need some more franchises represented

Then it will surpass 'Cartoon All-stars to the Rescue' for sure

 

[TMNTSSB4]

idk fox v fox is pretty even in melee

As even as a game can get

When Thanos was development head.

Thanos, a perfectly balanced Smash developer

Yeah. Brawl was a great game.

When you ignore Pit’s voice and the powers of Meta Knight

Says noone ever (except some Melee fanboys)

Not even Melee fanboys would think so

I do I do...

Well,
Smash 64 has the most balance in terms of characters. Even the most weakest still have potential to beat other characters.

Melee is unbalance, nearly half of the cast are viable while the rest are trash. Still, even the viable ones still have hard counters. Fox is not that dominant from what you think. He has evens with Falco and Marth and even other lower tiered characters, Jigglypuff, Sheik, Falcon, can still beat him by overwhelming his poor range, light weight/fast fall, and linear recovery. Otherwise, he is still a force to be reckon with.

Brawl is horribly unbalance, Meta Knight beats all of the MUs while Ganondorf loses all of the MUs, even the second weakest still beats him. Meta Knight is terribly broken and Ice Climbers is also really good.

Smash 4 is much more balanced than Melee and especially Brawl. Many characters have the ability to defeat one of the best characters if trained properly. No one has heavy counters. However, Bayonetta arrives and that changes the meta quiet a bit.

I hope Ultimate has the best balance. I want to play other characters competitively without being mollywhooped by better characters. Sakurai and Nintendo clearly focus more towards competitive Smash and I like that. I hope Ultimate is fun and balanced.

Well ****, you had an actual answer without Thanos needing to be involved

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Is it possibly one of the biggest official crossovers in media history?

I feel like Ready Player One tops it

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

The-there are rumors saying Franziska Von Karma could be in a new MvC game...?

...Dangit, that is too good to be true, because that would be amazing.

You know, we were close to having both her and Phoenix Wright in Tatsunoko vs Capcom as well, right?

 

[Deleted member]

I feel like Ready Player One tops it

The book has even more characters, even including the Spider-Man from that japanese TV show.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I feel like Ready Player One tops it

Oh crud, forgot about that movie...

Perhaps

It just might need some more franchises represented

Then it will surpass 'Cartoon All-stars to the Rescue' for sure

And forgot about that too...

 

[Iridium]

I remember showing off a pretty detailed video from GameXplain and the rendering of stages, but this one is really good when it comes to specifics.

What do you all think?

 

[beans]

I feel like Ready Player One tops it

Player One is just cameos outside few examples
*Funko Pop The Movie intensifies*