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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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SuperSceptile15

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All third parties in Smash aren't console exclusive whereas Chief is same with Mario and Kratos.
Not that I'm in support of Chief being playable (I would be indifferent to his inclusion), but you guys really need to stop creating so many patterns and excuses for why characters can't get in. You did the same with Cloud before his confirmation by saying he represents Square breaking up with Nintendo and making a game for a Sony console. Master Chief is still very unlikely, but you can't instantly throw him out of the running yet.
 

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To be fair, as great and popular as Shovel Knight may be, he lacks history with Nintendo, being a fairly recent character. Still, I would've wanted him in.

And one of the last times console exclusives and smash got together, Bayonetta was birthed and Bayonetta 3 became a Switch Exclusive.
Greatness and popularity got Cloud, who's far more irrelevant to Nintendo than SK in, though, no?
 

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All these stock/no items/no hazards matches from The Big House are pretty nice. It's really just too bad 95%+ of them are on Town and City or Battlefield; it's like no one even cares to check what the handful of actually unknown stages even do without hazards...
I don't have the footage, but I played a match on green greens and it removed all the blocks and the wind. It was a completely viable stage.
 

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My opinion is that there's seems to be a mass outbreak of Parkinson's disease in the leaker community.

That or Michael J. Fox is responsible for all fake Smash Bros leaks.

I'm going to hell for this joke.
I'm now remembering the Curb your enthusiasm episode with Fox, god damnit lol
 

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I know you're reading this. Vote 2B.
Greatness and popularity got Cloud, who's far more irrelevant to Nintendo than SK in, though, no?
It's ridiculous to compare Cloud's popularity to Shovel Knight's. Cloud is significantly far more popular and well known. Cloud isn't necessarily irrelevant to Nintendo either, as he's an extremely iconic Final Fantasy character.

With all fairness, Shovel Knight didn't even get any special treatment on the switch or Wii U, while on the Xbox and Playstation he got some special equipment and console exclusive crossover boss fights.
 

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One hour for a veteran who is NOT Little Mac, or an item we should have had a blogpost on back in August.



If it IS Mac, watch the tinfoil fly.
 

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It's ridiculous to compare Cloud's popularity to Shovel Knight's. Cloud is significantly far more popular and well known. Cloud isn't necessarily irrelevant to Nintendo either, as he's an extremely iconic Final Fantasy character.

With all fairness, Shovel Knight didn't even get any special treatment on the switch or Wii U, while on the Xbox and Playstation he got some special equipment and console exclusive crossover boss fights.
I understand the character comparison itself is absurd but as we're looking over what works best for the INDIE scene could we not classify SK as an even more relevant Cloud for indies? If that makes sense.

Shovel Knight got a whole amiibo, I'd say that's decently special.

It's between Shantae and SK, no contest, and if SK got an assist trophy I cannot see Shantae being playable.
 
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One hour for a veteran who is NOT Little Mac, or an item we should have had a blogpost on back in August.



If it IS Mac, watch the tinfoil fly.
I'd joke that it'd be someone who's notably fat like Wario or Dedede....

....but all the fatasses have been on the Blog already. :p
 

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I understand the character comparison itself is absurd but as we're looking over what works best for the INDIE scene could we not classify SK as an even more relevant Cloud for indies? If that makes sense.

Shovel Knight got a whole amiibo, I'd say that's decently special.

It's between Shantae and SK, no contest, and if SK got an assist trophy I cannot see Shantae being playable.
Fair enough. I've always seen Shovel Knight as being "Mr. Indie" while Shantae is "Ms. Indie", in the same way that Mario is called "Mr. Nintendo" or "Mr. Video Game."

Shovel Knight getting an amiibo is definitely special, but there's also the Plague Knight, Specter Knight, and King Knight amiibo.
Aside from Shovel Knight, Shantae is the most likely indie to get in. The fact that Sakurai acknowledged indies at all is something I feel supports this, but I suppose that's also subjective.
 

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I missed something- why would Little Mac be eventful
Three out of four of this week's blogposts have been related to health and spots, and with Incineroar's episode happening right after the "10 day" theory is set to finalize.


YOU TAKE ONE THEORY

AND YOU MAKE ANOTHER THEORY

AND YOU MASH'EM TOGETHER

AND THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE AN ABOMINATION
 
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NineS

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Three out of four of this week's blogposts have been related to health and spots, and with Incineroar's episode happening right after the "10 day" theory is set to finalize.


YOU TAKE ONE THEORY

AND YOU MAKE ANOTHER THEORY

AND YOU MASH'EM TOGETHER

AND THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE AN ABOMINATION
What happens if you just keep mashing theories?
Let's mash this one with the 'Jazz' theory!

or the "bad time" theory
 

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Fair enough. I've always seen Shovel Knight as being "Mr. Indie" while Shantae is "Ms. Indie", in the same way that Mario is called "Mr. Nintendo" or "Mr. Video Game."

Shovel Knight getting an amiibo is definitely special, but there's also the Plague Knight, Specter Knight, and King Knight amiibo.
Aside from Shovel Knight, Shantae is the most likely indie to get in. The fact that Sakurai acknowledged indies at all is something I feel supports this, but I suppose that's also subjective.
That's the thing. That's 4 characters from Shovel Knight who got all amiibo.
To say that this game still doesn't have Nintendo relevance or history is silly in my eyes.

Yeah, Shantae's the most likely to get in besides Shovel Knight. But if SK didn't make the cut, I doubt she will.
 

KingofKoopas

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In the comparison between Shovel Knight and Shantae it should be noted that Shantae took off like a rocket overseas in japan where Shovel Knight... was more like a lead balloon. So its entirely possible that Muh King of Indies is just an assist where as Shantae can be playable. Honestly id have liked to have both but gun to my head im going with I dream of Half Genie.
 

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Three out of four of this week's blogposts have been related to health and spots, and with Incineroar's episode happening right after the "10 day" theory is set to finalize.


YOU TAKE ONE THEORY

AND YOU MAKE ANOTHER THEORY

AND YOU MASH'EM TOGETHER

AND THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE AN ABOMINATION
I'm so damn tired of the drought that I'm willing to put stock in this
 

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Just put Incineroar and Ken in so we can start the DLC speculation already.

Sick of talking about this Tiger the Dark ripoff.
 

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Although I love taking the piss on theories, it's sad how many people outside of Smashboards still put stock in Loz and the chairs. I get messaged all the time about "Chairs isn't dead! Loz can still be right!" on Reddit all the time.
 

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They're gonna start the trailer off with Incineroar because they're aware of the demand, and eventually introduce the other two Pokemon the Masked Royal is using in battle for Smash.
 

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So the consensus is, if Lil Mac is shown, expect an announcement of some kind that would lead to a Robin/Lucina like reveal afterwards or the next day?
 
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