Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Captain Shwampy]

Sega, whoever made that game, please bring them back and give them total control over everything Sonic. Please.

Too bad he killing the series right now lol

 

[Swamp Sensei]

>Heroes being the best game
>when Colors exists
YIKES

Find where I said Heroes was the best.

Cause I didn't.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't trust people who don't like My Hero Academia

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I feel the same way. That being said, given Isabelle's announcement and Sakurai's comments, I've become less certain if Isaac would get an echo, or even be in at all. I hope so--it's the first party version of Simon, where a newcomer/echo combo fits well. I also like both of their character designs, and if there's a villain/anti-hero theme, it fits nicely.

Also when making my last predictions post, I noticed the connection between Golden Sun and Sun and Moon, both of which I optimistically predicted for October. It's a nice coincidence.

I do hope the Isaac fans gets their wish come true. They deserve their golden boy after this long wait.

 

[Deleted member]

>Heroes has good controls
>Hero Academia is overrated
>Forces is everything wrong with the series up to 11

I-I think I need a break from this thread....

You and me both dude lol.

 

[Robertman2]

Heroes was a gimmicky mess of a game, and the controls are slippery as hell.
Also


Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts is a good game

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I don't trust people who don't like My Hero Academia

I never said it was bad. It’s hecking good. Very fun. I just think it’s overrated.

 

[Fastblade5035]

on the topic of sonic

Spoiler

sonic battle and sonic rush are some of the absolute best in the series

 

[Deleted member]

I don't trust people who don't like My Hero Academia

I’ve never watched it. Where does that put me?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Heroes was a gimmicky mess of a game, and the controls are slippery as hell.
Also


Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts is a good game

...Cars?

Cars...?

CAAAAAARRRRRRRRS!!!

AND IIIIIIIII HOLY ****! WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOUI CAN’T BELIEVE YOU WOULD DO THIS TO ME GOD DAMMIT HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?!

 

[Deleted member]

Too bad he killing the series right now lol

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Oh.

I don't know how the heck Colors happened, then. Maybe it was other parts of the team that made it great, lol.

My earlier critique of Lost World aside, let's all remember it gave us this:

This alone makes some of the faults forgivable.

 

[Luigi The President]

Just got home, catch me up gang

 

[Exalt4747]

I HATE THE BANDS YOU LIKE!!!!!!

 

[Deleted member]

Heroes was a gimmicky mess of a game, and the controls are slippery as hell.
Also


Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts is a good game

Hehehe you said nuts

I never said it was bad. It’s hecking good. Very fun. I just think it’s overrated.

I’ve never watched it. Where does that put me?

Stop wasting your time and watch it then.

 

[WolfCypher]

God, this thread moves so fast with like five different conversations going on. I go to the the toilet for 34 painful minutes the normal amount of time for a human, and this happens? Lets see:

• Yes, Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the best Sonic game. No 3D Sonic game has ever dethroned a 2D one. Sonic Mania is easily gunning for S3&K, tho...
• Mario 3 was a game where I never felt compelled to explore the levels, just get through them until I got to the end. It felt, and still feels, like an unrewarding obstacle course, and most levels were either too short, or left me feeling "that's it?"
• I'd rate Brawl > Melee > 4. Smash 64 was the pioneer, its faults I won't hold against it.
• 1st Nintendo system was NES.
• Yes, I would love to live in a world where Nintendo still has Joanna Dark, as a franchise and as a Smash character. She was a character I really wanted pre-Melee. I even still remember the moveset I fantasized she'd have (mostly).

Is that everything? Like speed-foruming...

 

[ZoroCarlos]

Sonic 06 is a terrible game, but it's also a VERY fun game, I just had too much fun with its bs lol.

Sonic Unleashed, I enjoy night stages, I just hate how long they are dragged out compared to day stages. You'll play a full hour of night vs 3 minutes of day.

Sonic Forces is not as bad as people say, but it is kind of dull imo.

 

[Noipoi]

Just got home, catch me up gang

Today is unpopular opinion day.

We also talked about anime boobies for a bit.

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

Okay folks, let old man snap tell you why Sonic Heroes is one of the best 3D Sonic games and a fantastic game in general.

Gameplay is quick and snappy with levels that are designed for a nice arcade style speed through.
You have several abilities that are all actually used and make you feel powerful.
Character interaction is done spectacularly and seemlessly though gameplay giving a much needed boost to lore, personality and character relationships, while also keeping the story simple to understand.
Music is S+.
It actually makes you feel fast in a way where you have full control.
Each character actually has differently made levels meaning that each team focuses on a different style or level of gameplay.


I love Heroes. It isn't perfect but it's fantastic.

Me and Sonic Heroes have a rocky history, sorry:
The control is slippery as all heck, I've lost count of how many times I died because of butter under my feet. Levels are inconsistent in length and too spacious compared to the previous games, bottomless pits are a constant threat and giving enemies health bars that often halt progression is a pacebreaker.
The game's too long and having to go through the same 14 stages 4 times makes the team mechanic wear thin
Team Dark and Team Chaotix yes, Team Sonic and Team Rose? No. Sonic yammers about them being Heroes while Knuckles states the obvious and Tails acts helpless (this was where he started going downhill), while Team Rose are all single-minded and only held together because they keep losing stuff.
Music is pretty good but still ranks below Adventure 1, I feel some of the songs are a bit on the repetitive side (love me some Egg Emperor though.
Which would be better if you weren't required to do all of them just to get access to the last two boss fights. Team Rose has the perfect level length, but Team Sonic and Team Dark especially are marathons with how long and dumb their levels get, while Team Chaotix doesn't know how to maintain a consistent challenge.

 

[Zinith]

Unpopular opinion? Okay then, get ready for this earth-shattering red pill...

Spoiler

Yoshi is the best character ever!!!

 

[lightdrago]

It feels like the majority of characters have so many anime stereotypes placed on them. Maybe it’s just me.
And pretty much every set of episodes is “Students Train and then Villians Attack” Repeat. I needed to get that off my chest. Maybe I’m not getting it?

I mean, I don’t know if I’d call the series overrated... I just feel the characters are interesting and the setting of the anime is a nice unique take on the hero formula. It’s been a while since I followed an anime religiously. Not to mention the fight scenes. That scene where Midoriya does some fancy footwork and Bakugo narrowly manages to dodge his kick was beautifully animated. I wanna see if I can find a gif of it...

 

[Deleted member]

Just got home, catch me up gang

We went through hell.

 

[Potato_]

It feels like the majority of characters have so many anime stereotypes placed on them. Maybe it’s just me.
And pretty much every set of episodes is “Students Train and then Villians Attack” Repeat. I needed to get that off my chest. Maybe I’m not getting it?

Weird that you feel that way, because while there are some tropes, the majority of the cast does feel decently unique to me. Some even do something special in terms of how they're written. The Stain arc was the only one where I felt disappointed in the writing, purely due to Stain as a whole and his motivation making no sense to me.

Bakugo is my favorite character precisely because he takes the "cocky ****head rival" trope that is SO OVERDONE and actually does something different with it. He's an actual complex character with reasons behind his attitude instead of just being a guy who thinks "I'm the best and everyone else is garbage".

It is overrated TO AN EXTENT, because a lot of people praise it like it's the second coming of Christ, but it is a fantastic show and deserves the credit it gets. One of the more recent episodes nearly had me in tears and I don't really have that happen to me with media.

(god we really need that direct announcement soon)

 

[FalconFire93]

I don't trust people who don't like My Hero Academia

I really like the series myself, but haven’t been able to fully catch up yet due to college and whatnot, but I’ll get there eventually when I get around to it.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, I’m eating at Slice Pizza right now. And whenever I eat here, bombshell level Smash news gets announced sooner or later usually.
Don’t quote me though. Might just be coincidence lol.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

This thread now.

It's in a total nutshell.

We need at least a date announcement for the next character(s) for the sake of this community's sanity...

It's just too bad once after that reveal everything goes back to the way it is until the next reveal.

 

[Chandeelure]

Pichu's return was more hype than Ridley's and K. Rool's revals combined.

 

[CosmicQuark]

Lost world was fun but the story and writing were amazingly bad. I feel the game itself got way too much hate for what it was, although I feel the overall community perception of it was that it's ok.

Forces, on the other hand, I liked the story/writing/atmosphere/direction generally speaking (though there are definitely parts that could be better, like the inexplicable Sonic-tortured-except-not-really bit), but the gameplay was way too short to really be very enjoyable. I got what I could out of it and I liked trying to speedrun stages for a time, but Forces could have been so much better.

Oh well. At least you always get kickass music with Sonic games

I feel like the problem is that Sega looked at the negative reception of Sonic 06 and went overboard trying to course correct. Sonic 06 was great in concept (feels like what SA3 could have been, with three stories and three characters each) but was a buggy, dumb mess. People criticized Sonic for the side characters, wanting to focus on Sonic. Problem is, if you make a Sonic game focused on Sonic, it would be over in 2 hours. They tried to compromise--Unleashed was all about Sonic... but had Werehog levels that went on for an ungodly long time. Sonic Colors was all about Sonic--but stripped down, basically being a 3D version of the 2D games (which is why it's considered one of the highlights). Sonic Generations was all about Sonic--but a very short game with 3D and 2D versions of Sonic (my favorite).

My wish: a Sonic Adventure like game, with a variety of characters (e.g., Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Blaze, Cream) and multiple stories for replayability and with the engine of Sonic Generations.

Heroes was a gimmicky mess of a game, and the controls are slippery as hell.
Also


Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts is a good game

I'm not going to say if Nuts and Bolts was a good game or not, because I stopped playing after 10 minutes. Assuming it's true to give the benefit of the doubt--Nuts and Bolts could be a good game, but it was not a Banjo-Kazooie game.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean, I don’t know if I’d call the series overrated... I just feel the characters are interesting and the setting of the anime is a nice unique take on the hero formula. It’s been a while since I followed an anime religiously. Not to mention the fight scenes. That scene where Midoriya does some fancy footwork and Bakugo narrowly manages to dodge his kick was beautifully animated. I wanna see if I can find a gif of it...

I gotcha fam

last one on this because we're steering off-topic

 

[Potato_]

Well, I’m eating at Slice Pizza right now. And whenever I eat here, bombshell level Smash news gets announced usually.
Don’t quote me though. Might just be coincidence lol.

Never leave then.

never.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Pichu's return was more hype than Ridley's and K. Rool's revals combined.

As a Pichu main in Melee, I agree. My reaction to Snake returning and Everyone is Here was excitement over seeing Pichu in glorious HD for Smash.

 

[Untouch]

Can I say how much I hate the word "theory" after this speculation cycle?
There are no predictions or guesses anymore, just "theories" for everything.

 

[Deleted member]

Never leave then.

never.

I-I wish I couldn’t but I have home.

I mean last time I ate here Simon and King K Rool got announced so...

 

[Fastblade5035]

Can I say how much I hate the word "theory" after this speculation cycle?
There are no predictions or guesses anymore, just "theories" for everything.

my new Theory theory indicates that people may be getting tired of the word 'theory'


.. but thats just a theory...

 

[Kuon]

Are we still talking about My Hero Academia?

 

[WolfCypher]

I never said it was bad. It’s hecking good. Very fun. I just think it’s overrated.

I just started it three days ago. I got up to the episode in season 2 where Neku

Spoiler: MHA

came in 1st place in that school wide hero race and now everyone is gunning for him since he's worth a million points.

That's about 20 episodes, I think, so obviously I like MHA, but I gotta be honest, everyone made it sound like its this incredible phenomenon show, and IMO its fun, that's it. I'm going to watch more tonight. Where/when does it reach those levels of hype, or does it ever?

 

[IsmaR]

Enough with the hot takes that don't actually have to do with Smash, please.

Anything from here on that's spam will yadda yardage yadda and all that.

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Today is unpopular opinion day.

Well I got an unpopular opinion, I can't get into any new Japanese shows anymore ever since I seen Lucky Star. I still love most Western animated shows though.

 

[Impa4Smash]

edit:ignore

 

[Kuon]

edit:ignore

Noooooo not Sora! Anyone but that! ...I'd be okay with Laura Croft though, or a DQ character

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So, um...

What do you think tonight’s blog entry will be?