Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Rie Sonomura]

"You're a clone, you're a clone, you're a clone! Are there anymore clones I should know about?!"

- [meow]

“I’m outta here.”

IS THIS REAL

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Yeeeeaaaaah I’m calling fake. If it’s a trailer you’d think they’d come up with a creative tag line instead of just “HEY LOOK WERE NAMING THIS CHARACTER’S TRAILER AFTER THE CHARACTER SHOWCASED IN IT”

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

You say that but you seem to come in every time I bring it up.

I also don't get this "credibility in a vacuum" thing. If he's made mistakes and gotten things wrong with other games, why do we just forget that now? He's gotten some things right here. That doesn't change his track record. Heck, maybe you could say he's improved if he hadn't gotten things wrong in other instances only a few months prior (still waiting on my two Castlevania games)

See, the problem with the Smash community is that, after Brawl, people lost all sense of skepticism. It's even to the point where people don't like when you doubt something. For every one thing that has been right, 50 have been wrong. It's gotten so bad that people are using the word "leak" instead of "rumor." The thing is you should be skeptical. Here you have a guy who, sure, has gotten a lot of stuff right but historically has gotten things wrong, He's gotten things wrong about other games so obviously he hasn't improved. Who's to say he's not doing what he's done before? Heck, why should I believe him on his word alone.

What I've told others is you should doubt what he says and if it come true, cool. He's so shoddy that it could go either way. But people drink it up without doubt. Heck, GameFAQs at least questions it. Here, it's listen and believe. There, I gave your comments more that it deserved.

Sorry but if you're still questioning Verg at this point I think it's best you take a break from speculation because most of everyone else has already accepted it

 

[Zinith]

"You're a clone, you're a clone, you're a clone! Are there anymore clones I should know about?!"

"Meow"

..........I'm out of here

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

IS THIS REAL

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Hmmm.... where did you find it?... This could easily be photoshopped....

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

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So here's why I think Dixie Kong is more likely to be an Echo than a Semi-Clone or Unique:

It all has to do with one single thing: the Skeletons. Not the October spooky kind, but the actual model of the characters to base off of. All of the Echoes are easily able to be implemented into another character's skeleton given some slight adjustments for things like height. However, I find that something that causes disjoints can just kinda **** everything over, which is how I think Isabelle ended up differently. Her limbs are shorter than Villager, and that would make for some wonky animations and hitboxes, which even if a move is different, those similar moves should have the same hitbox. If it doesn't look right because of the character model itself, it's more worthwhile to make her her own character rather to spend extra time tackling this extra problem when the former solution is just as time consuming.

Dixie Kong is pretty much a girl Diddy Kong. Put on a ponytail instead of a tail, put on a beret, lipstick and gum that up, and there isn't much needed left. It's easy, it's simple, and it saves production time.

Isabelle is an odd one out. If anything, that decreases Dixie's likelihood than increases it. And don't even say "it's not in her character!!!" or "b-b-but she doesn't do that in the dk games sakurai would never!!!", because I'm gonna take you hostage and make you play Metroid Prime 2 and 3 .

Nope the ponytail is the key element to her character, it's not something that can be ignored. You're not changing my views on this and many others agree on this poll.

https://smashboards.com/threads/pol...-unique-fighter-instead.458042/#post-22502119
I'm not even sure if she'll make the base at this point.

If she's dlc then that might give her more of a chance to be a semi clone.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

IS THIS REAL

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For the time being probably should remain skeptical. It could be photoshopped but I won't rule it out.

 

[Will]

IS THIS REAL

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I wish the site's stability is real.

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Nope the ponytail is the key element to her character, it's not something that can be ignored. You're not changing my views on this, I'm not even sure if she'll make the base at this point.

I wish you happy bliss if you think Sakurai cares for heavy elements of character and just won't ignore it.

 

[Mellowy Yellow]

Hmmm.... where did you find it?... This could easily be photoshoped....

The most trustworthy leak site on the earth known as 4chan /s

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

It should be noted that I believe someone said it was around 2 weeks since the NEW banner was removed before getting the (originally planned) Nintendo Direct. Likewise, the person claiming to be following the Youtube playlist said it was roughly 10 days since it was updated before reveals, I believe. So by "soon" I'm thinking in 10-14 days.

It's already been two days so that leaves 8 days left

 

[kylexv]

IS THIS REAL

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Probably not.

Also, inb4 we get announcement in the next week for the "Final Character Trailer".

 

[Icedragonadam]

IS THIS REAL

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Considering how easy it is to edit something like that with the Screenshot saver + Inspect tool, that image is probably fake even if Incineroar is the next reveal.

 

[Thermithral]

"You're a clone, you're a clone, you're a clone! Are there anymore clones I should know about?!"

I mean, with all the Double Cherry shenanigans that goes on in Mario 3D World, I dont think we can definitely prove Mario, Luigi, Peach and Rosalina are not clones too...

And dont even get me started on the other Pokemon reps...

 

[Deleted member]

The most trustworthy leak site on the earth known as 4chan /s

The Russian leaker known as "4chan" is at it again!

 

[Shroob]

I legit can't even see what's supposed to be 'real'. It's a broken image on my end.

 

[Atlas2398]

Best timeline: direct announcement tomorrow, news thursday

Other timeline: Nintendo announces a direct before finals at Big House

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I legit can't even see what's supposed to be 'real'. It's a broken image on my end.

It's a cropped image of on YouTube on a video titled Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 69: Incineroar with the date being Oct 2nd.

 

[Zinith]

"You're a clone, you're a clone, you're a clone! Are there anymore clones I should know about?!"

Actually I have one even better...

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"Meow"

........I'm out of here

Yoshi's Woolly World amiibo funcionality

 

[CosmicQuark]

I legit can't even see what's supposed to be 'real'. It's a broken image on my end.

When I was replying to the message saying it was broken, it popped up for me.

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A very cropped photo of a Youtube video for Incineroar being the 69th character. EDIT:

 

[Chandeelure]

Sakurai said he would slow down with the reveals, but we will get one very soon.

He lied, and he probably lied with the "there are just a few characters left".

I'm now expecting 100 more newcomers.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

The term semi-clone is pretty silly at this point considering the only characters who "own" that term are pretty much unique aside from their specials being sorta similar in some cases.

But Isabelle being considered one kinda baffles me, yeah she gets Pocket and her Balloon recovery is rather similar but... She's completely unique otherwise.

Isabelle also has Villager's Final Smash, dash attack (just with a vase instead of a plant pot), his grab, and at least his back throw, while we still also haven't seen much of her standard moves (including all her aerials besides nair), with the chances being she has more of Villager's moves. Plus she still has the Loid Rocket (just used in a different capacity). We also have no idea what her movement specs and physics will be like, which could very well be similar to Villager's values. With the current information she looks to be at least a Lucas-level semi-clone.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Sakurai said he would slow down with the reveals, but we will get one very soon.

He lied, and he probably lied with the "there are just a few characters left".

I'm now expecting 100 more newcomers.

Oh man wouldn't that just be the dream or what...

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Am I the only one that gets constantly sent to ****ing Amazon on this site?

 

[Opossum]

The "female villain" theory is LITERALLY just someone wanting a character in the game and coming up with a "theory" because they for some reason think that'll make the character in the game.

I know, right?

That being said, let me tell you about the "Fire Emblem Lord Who Shares Her Name With a Type of Toyota" Theory...

 

[Deleted member]

I just found out that Intern-kun ****ed up the name of who arranged the Tomodachi Life remix and it's actually Masafumi Takada, not Masashi.
Whoever is running that site needs to get fired man lmao

 

[Flyboy]

I checked the Smash website and came across the usual music update. ...Look. Tomodachi Life was actual fire, and I'm pretty sure every single copy that was sold was because of Vinny from Vinesauce playing the game, which practically became an actual soap opera.

But... C-Can a brother get a EarthBound or Xenoblade remix? WARIOWORLD REMIX??

thank god we have 350+ more tracks to go at least

Don't worry, the Xenoblade music will come next Wednesday when they reveal Elma.

 

[AreJay25]

It's a cropped image of on YouTube on a video titled Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 69: Incineroar with the date being Oct 2nd.

"Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 69"

Well now I'm sad that it's probably fake.

 

[Chandeelure]

Holy broken pictures, Batman.

Like 90% of the pics in this website are broken now for some reason.

 

[Robertman2]

Am I the only one that gets constantly sent to ****ing Amazon on this site?

Nah, I get sent to that fake Amazon site a lot too

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

I wish the site's stability is real.


I wish you happy bliss if you think Sakurai cares for heavy elements of character and just won't ignore it.

Old news, Ganondorf was rushed for melee.
I'm not convinced by this.

 

[Deleted member]

Don't worry, the Xenoblade music will come next Wednesday when they reveal Elma.

Darkest Timeline, unless I get Black Tar (Rap Version).

 

[RileyXY1]

I highly doubt that we'll have a reveal any time soon.

 

[Shroob]

I highly doubt that we'll have a reveal any time soon.

Signs point otherwise, says the Magic 8-ball.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Am I the only one that gets constantly sent to ****ing Amazon on this site?

Adblockers are your friend. Seriously I got those iPhone X redirect ads on mobile so much it wasn’t funny

Install an adblocker app and my problems just vanish

I know, right?

That being said, let me tell you about the "Fire Emblem Lord Who Shares Her Name With a Type of Toyota" Theory...

I’ll do you one better - the “Xenoblade Character Who Shares Her Name With A Character From Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid” theory

 

[papagenos]

Holy broken pictures, Batman.

Like 90% of the pics in this website are broken now for some reason.

perfect time for a bunch of real image leaks to drop haha

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Oh man wouldn't that just be the dream or what...

more like a goddamn balancing nightmare

"Sakurai plz nerf Bayonetta, Cloud, Tifa, Lloyd, Master Hand, Boshi, Toadette, Chrono, Geno, Chibi-Robo, and all the Z Fighters, too op"

 

[Guynamednelson]

Mario is one of the most popular Nintendo characters.
This is a crossover primarily between Nintendo characters.
I dare you to disprove the Mario theory.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Sakurai said he would slow down with the reveals, but we will get one very soon.

He lied, and he probably lied with the "there are just a few characters left".

I'm now expecting 100 more newcomers.

10 would be reasonable enough, I'd think. Hype responsibly.

 

[cothero]

Calling it right now: the Square Enix characters is either Sora or Lara Croft, the only two big characters that could justify all this secrecy.

 

[Mutsukki]

Huh? What did Verge say about Geno?

 

[AreJay25]

Mario is one of the most popular Nintendo characters.
This is a crossover primarily between Nintendo characters.
I dare you to disprove the Mario theory.

Mario? Never heard of him.

Now, Jumpman, that dude is popular.