Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Rocket Raccoon]

They do it every 10 years. It’s not really a hint at anything.

Yeah, along with Rhythm Heaven and Mario Sluggers I believe.
Doesn't really mean much as those games' copyright was about to hit their deadline.

Custom Robo wasn't part of the 4 games that got their copyright renewed or whatever but I thought Golden Sun was about to hit public domain.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Now I’m a bit puzzled: if they could renew the Golden Sun IP, why couldn’t they do the same for Custom Robo?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I was in an extra-creative mood, and my train was in an extra-delayed mood (I love sitting in the middle of nowhere completely stationary for almost an hour), so I ended up doing two things out of boredom.

One is an extended ****post which eventually evolved into the character thread I had threatened to make before and almost forgot about; since Phoenix Wright and most FE characters I like are already done, that left me with only one series to look at for ideas, so if more than one person can look at it, that'd be nice I promise, if you visit it, I won't ban you when I run the site:
https://smashboards.com/threads/highlander-show-smash-a-highlanders-justice.458604/

The other is this demonstration of why I should never be allowed to use anything like a roster maker tool:

I'm pretty sure there are characters actually in Smash who I inadvertently decided to "cut" because I forgot they existed. Plus there are 21 FE characters there and I still could probably have added more if I wanted to.
Anyway, to the thread at large: on a scale of 1 to "how do I get a moderator banned from the site", how terrible is this roster? Bearing in mind it's completely biased and not trying to be reasonable at all as should be evident by the character occupying the slot immediately to the left of the Miis.

(Speaking of Fire Emblem, did you know there's a new Fire Emblem section on Smashboards? You all should go check it out.)

No Rhythm Heaven Rep? 0/10
Seriously though, Nice roster... love the inclusion of Andy, Hades, And Ghirahim
But why is Goku on the roster?

 

[Master of Fire]

I was in an extra-creative mood, and my train was in an extra-delayed mood (I love sitting in the middle of nowhere completely stationary for almost an hour), so I ended up doing two things out of boredom.

One is an extended ****post which eventually evolved into the character thread I had threatened to make before and almost forgot about; since Phoenix Wright and most FE characters I like are already done, that left me with only one series to look at for ideas, so if more than one person can look at it, that'd be nice I promise, if you visit it, I won't ban you when I run the site:
https://smashboards.com/threads/highlander-show-smash-a-highlanders-justice.458604/

The other is this demonstration of why I should never be allowed to use anything like a roster maker tool:

I'm pretty sure there are characters actually in Smash who I inadvertently decided to "cut" because I forgot they existed. Plus there are 21 FE characters there and I still could probably have added more if I wanted to.
Anyway, to the thread at large: on a scale of 1 to "how do I get a moderator banned from the site", how terrible is this roster? Bearing in mind it's completely biased and not trying to be reasonable at all as should be evident by the character occupying the slot immediately to the left of the Miis.

(Speaking of Fire Emblem, did you know there's a new Fire Emblem section on Smashboards? You all should go check it out.)

I approve of any roster with Blaziken in it

 

[Moydow]

But why is Goku on the roster?

Because the salt Goku would generate would sustain me until the end of time.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Wait....wasn't there a Smashboards rumor just YESTERDAY about the prima strategy guide lmao?

That's a weird coincidence (unless it's real but god hate putting any faith in text rumors)


Edit: https://smashboards.com/threads/heres-everything.458565/

It's missing Starman in the AT section.

If it does end up real, however, I guess Bethesda Theory is true, except we're getting Vault Boy, not Doom or Skyrim.

 

[Q-Long]

Now I’m a bit puzzled: if they could renew the Golden Sun IP, why couldn’t they do the same for Custom Robo?

Because they like to bully me

I'm also I'm guessing that means no Custom Robo content in Ultimate sadly.

I'm hoping for at least a generated nickname reference.

 

[WertQuadNine]

Or yknow, MGS. Or Spyro. Or literally like 10 other games that they might've just not revealed yet.

Let's wait before declaring this thing dead in the water alright guys?

Smash-wise, I have an slightly interesting question for you all, as we wait for TGS to potentially have more info.

What assist trophies do you think should make a debut?

Personally, the fact that E.Gadd hasn't appeared in any Smash game yet is criminal.

I think Chibi-robo is a must for an assist trophy. I doubt his franchise will live on, so to see him represented in Smash somehow would be a nice sentiment,

 

[RileyXY1]

It's missing Starman in the AT section.

If it does end up real, however, I guess Bethesda Theory is true, except we're getting Vault Boy, not Doom or Skyrim.

Yeah. It's fake. The AT section is missing Starman.

 

[Misery Brick]

Now I’m a bit puzzled: if they could renew the Golden Sun IP, why couldn’t they do the same for Custom Robo?

Maybe it isn't because they couldn't, just practically decided not to.
I'm guessing they just didn't really see anything for the future of Custom Robo as it's been on hiatus for such a long time, that they decided not to even attempt to renew it.

As far as I know, a lot of film companies usually have the same mentality towards copyright of film if there's no potential for it. I'm guessing it just might be the same for Custom Robo, but I could be wrong.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's missing Starman in the AT section.

If it does end up real, however, I guess Bethesda Theory is true, except we're getting Vault Boy, not Doom or Skyrim.

Prima guides themselves often have things missing so it's not like it's absurd they would, lol

But at this point I don't have any faith in leaks that say any characters other than Ken and Incineroar

 

[RileyXY1]

Prima guides themselves often have things missing so it's not like it's absurd they would, lol

But at this point I don't have any faith in leaks that say any characters other than Ken and Incineroar

The box theory is nihilistic and it goes against Vergeben.

 

[Alternis]

I was in an extra-creative mood, and my train was in an extra-delayed mood (I love sitting in the middle of nowhere completely stationary for almost an hour), so I ended up doing two things out of boredom.

One is an extended ****post which eventually evolved into the character thread I had threatened to make before and almost forgot about; since Phoenix Wright and most FE characters I like are already done, that left me with only one series to look at for ideas, so if more than one person can look at it, that'd be nice I promise, if you visit it, I won't ban you when I run the site:
https://smashboards.com/threads/highlander-show-smash-a-highlanders-justice.458604/

The other is this demonstration of why I should never be allowed to use anything like a roster maker tool:

I'm pretty sure there are characters actually in Smash who I inadvertently decided to "cut" because I forgot they existed. Plus there are 21 FE characters there and I still could probably have added more if I wanted to.
Anyway, to the thread at large: on a scale of 1 to "how do I get a moderator banned from the site", how terrible is this roster? Bearing in mind it's completely biased and not trying to be reasonable at all as should be evident by the character occupying the slot immediately to the left of the Miis.

(Speaking of Fire Emblem, did you know there's a new Fire Emblem section on Smashboards? You all should go check it out.)

I mean, this has Anna, Ghirahim, and EO music by implication, so 11/10.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

How do I buy a dead trademark?

 

[Door Key Pig]

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...allegedly-leaked-from-new-battle-royale-beta/
From Omar Kendall, the lead designer.

So it seems that they didn't come to reach an agreement and/or there were money problems of licensing? But with Smash being an undeniably more high profile, HYPE BOMB of a game, and Activision clearly having success (N Sane trilogy on Switch, which came out in Smash's period) and franchise crossover with Nintendo (Skylanders), maybe it wouldn't be too out of the question for them to have considered putting Crash in Smash Ultimate? If someone from their buddies Blizzard can talk about putting a character of theirs in Smash (https://comicbook.com/gaming/2018/08/16/blizzard-wants-diablo-in-smash-bros-ultimate/) and companies like Bethesda talk to Nintendo about Smash... (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._bros_future_nintendo_exclusives_are_possible)

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The box theory is nihilistic and it goes against Vergeben.

Verg himself said it wasn't impossible the supposed SE character was DLC

 

[RileyXY1]

Verg himself said it wasn't impossible the supposed SE character was DLC

That implies that the DLC was developed alongside the base game, which I highly doubt.

 

[Potato_]

Wait....wasn't there a Smashboards rumor just YESTERDAY about the prima strategy guide lmao?

That's a weird coincidence (unless it's real but god hate putting any faith in text rumors)


Edit: https://smashboards.com/threads/heres-everything.458565/

I love how all of these throwaway leak accounts always set their mains.

I'm just saying, if you're going to leak something, this guy did it right. Drop everything, no pretense about what the info is or some bull****, just drop it all.

Is it real or fake? Prob fake but eh, it's got some cool ideas (Wii Safety Instructor assist? Hell yes.)

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Wait....wasn't there a Smashboards rumor just YESTERDAY about the prima strategy guide lmao?

That's a weird coincidence (unless it's real but god hate putting any faith in text rumors)


Edit: https://smashboards.com/threads/heres-everything.458565/

If this becomes Legit, The Wii Remote Safety Instructor will be my new favorite Assist.

 

[Moydow]

I mean, this has Anna, Ghirahim, and EO music by implication, so 11/10.

Whoa, we found another one, that makes like five of us now? Enough for a full party at last. :p

I probably shouldn't also spam the thread with the list of music I'd add, but let's just say it'd be a very long list. :p

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That implies that the DLC was developed alongside the base game, which I highly doubt.

Unfortunately I kind of believe LeakyPandy's leak, it just makes too much sense to me.

It adds all the leaks and theories we know together

 

[KingofKoopas]

Prima guides are the new cardboard box? Is this really a thing? I mean just yesterday when you said prima guides people would laugh and joke about how much misinformation gets stuffed in them.

 

[Bestmand902]

The box theory is nihilistic and it goes against Vergeben.

Nothing wrong with nihilism, everyone's got their views.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Now I’m a bit puzzled: if they could renew the Golden Sun IP, why couldn’t they do the same for Custom Robo?

Smash characterppp they also renewed rhythm heaven too

 

[DarthEnderX]

I thought this was a Spongebob support thread after glimpsing at the "pineapple" part. lol

I thought King Hippo got leaked.

 

[ChocolatGelgato]

From what I heard they also kept Kratos deliberately OP and nerfed Sackboy when he was top tier alongside Kratos too

Toro (My main and one of the coolest character ideas ive seen) got his only decent tool nerfed with 0 compensation.
Kratos intentionally OP
Sly having several bull**** mechanics such as draining the opponents meter
Kat being bayonetta but twice as good (I think she got banned eventually)
Online literally having no 1v1 queue at all, only FFA or doubles with hazards enabled even in ranked.

I played that game a lot at the time (even almost getting black belt rank) but god it had some of the most boneheaded ideas i've ever seen.

Also it really didn't push the fanservice angle at all, resistance is the only series without a character that got it's due tribute, the game would have been much cooler if it branced out from the handful of series it had and did things like add a jumping flash or vib ribbon stage or add tombi as an assist trophy.

Also the "Only way to kill is via specials" was a bad idea and it would have benefitted from stealing smash's ideas more than it did.

 

[RileyXY1]

Prima guides are the new cardboard box? Is this really a thing? I mean just yesterday when you said prima guides people would laugh and joke about how much misinformation gets stuffed in them.

That leak is fake. It says that Starman was cut from the AT lineup when he actually returns as an AT.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I love how all of these throwaway leak accounts always set their mains.

I'm just saying, if you're going to leak something, this guy did it right. Drop everything, no pretense about what the info is or some bull****, just drop it all.

Is it real or fake? Prob fake but eh, it's got some cool ideas (Wii Safety Instructor assist? Hell yes.)

>Vault Boy

I friggin’ wish...

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

It's missing Starman in the AT section.

If it does end up real, however, I guess Bethesda Theory is true, except we're getting Vault Boy, not Doom or Skyrim.

Yeah. It's fake. The AT section is missing Starman.

It could be missing the Starman just based on human error of the leaker. That's a lot of junk they typed out, who knows if they just missed an AT that isn't new.

Can't believe Vault boy or Safety Wii Strap AT though lol.

Anyway I brought up the place holder on the book because it actually looks like a place holder, compared to the box which looks like a thought out design. If they wanted to just use a place holder why not just blur the whole sides, show a mostly blank box. Just saying don't mean to stir things up again, that could be the books final design too lol.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That leak is fake. It says that Starman was cut from the AT lineup when he actually returns as an AT.

It doesn't say Starman was cut. It just doesn't list starman

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

That leak is fake. It says that Starman was cut from the AT lineup when he actually returns as an AT.

Starman and Starfy are two different Characters...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Starman and Starfy are two different Characters...

I'm pretty sure in gameplay footage we've seen Starman

 

[RileyXY1]

Starman and Starfy are two different Characters...

I am talking about the Starman from Earthbound, who is an AT in this game. The leak does not list Starman with the other ATs, so it's fake. Let's just move on from this.

 

[Potato_]

>Vault Boy

I friggin’ wish...

With a HELIOS one stage, which makes me heavily think it's fake.

Why would Bethesda use a New Vegas area as a stage, and not Fallout 3 or 4?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

With a HELIOS one stage, which makes me heavily think it's fake.

Why would Bethesda use a New Vegas area as a stage, and not Fallout 3 or 4?

Also what will they do for Fallout music as a whole? Most of the iconic tracks are licensed...

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Wait....wasn't there a Smashboards rumor just YESTERDAY about the prima strategy guide lmao?

That's a weird coincidence (unless it's real but god hate putting any faith in text rumors)


Edit: https://smashboards.com/threads/heres-everything.458565/

Also, The only things that make me iffy about this "leak" is Vault Boy

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe the Square character is Eight from Dragon Quest? Only other DQ characters I could see are Erdrick or DQ11's Hero as DLC because I don't think Sakurai would go for Slime, although I would expect a Slime cameo or two in another DQ rep's moveset.

 

[ZephyrZ]

That implies that the DLC was developed alongside the base game, which I highly doubt.

At the very least it would probably already be in planning stage at this point, so that they can get started on work as soon as the game launches. Now would be the time to start negotiating rights.

Alternatively it could be that they intended for the SE character to be in the base roster but since they didn't make the cut, they moved them to DLC instead of throwing away all their hard work.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Maybe the Square character is Eight from Dragon Quest? Only other DQ characters I could see are Erdrick or DQ11's Hero as DLC because I don't think Sakurai would go for Slime, although I would expect a cameo or two from Slime in another DQ rep's moveset.

It's going to be a Dragon Quest 11 character

 

[Chrono.]

Wait....wasn't there a Smashboards rumor just YESTERDAY about the prima strategy guide lmao?

That's a weird coincidence (unless it's real but god hate putting any faith in text rumors)


Edit: https://smashboards.com/threads/heres-everything.458565/

So going by this "leak":
- Black Knight
- Black Shadow
- Dixie Kong
- Geno
- Incineroar
- Ken
- Mach Rider
- Shadow
- Steve
- Vault Boy

No way in hell we got this much left lol.

But I like making arbitrary lists.