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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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If you really want to get into it, the PS3/Vita have been selling most of these games for $5-10 for years as cross-buy. If someone has purchased any of them on sale (which they are often on) they could have compiled most of the PS1 classic's library for under a hundred dollars already, and been able to play it on a Vita portably if they choose.
I actually do have a small collection that I've improved everytime a game I liked went down to $5 lol. Chrono Trigger, FF Anthology (5 & 6), 7, 8, 9, 10, Tomba, FF Tactics, Wild Arms 2....I thinkt that's it. My collection is pretty much all RPGs since thats all I really played on PS1.
 

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I mean quality is irrelevant if nobody can ****ing buy it
Same kinda goes for an actual NES/SNES collection though.

You can build up a Sega Genesis library for pretty cheap. Finding and buying most of the SNES or NES greats gets *way* more price-y and difficult to acquire.

Not that that excuses Nintendo vastly underestimating demand for their Classic consoles, but buying one at a markup on eBay is still far cheaper than finding all the games themselves.
 

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I mean quality is irrelevant if nobody can ****ing buy it
I'd rather take solace in knowing that than buying the system that literally has a bunch of "what the **** is this" games for the sake of padding.

Anyways, how about that Smash Bros. Ultimate
 

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I actually do have a small collection that I've improved everytime a game I liked went down to $5 lol. Chrono Trigger, FF Anthology (5 & 6), 7, 8, 9, 10, Tomba, FF Tactics, Wild Arms 2....I thinkt that's it. My collection is pretty much all RPGs since thats all I really played on PS1.
I got Parasite Eve 1&2, all the Resident Evils through the RE6 special edition, Dino Crisis, a few FF games, Grandia, SF Alpha 3, uhhhh... I swear there was something else...

But yeah. I use my Vita essentially to play classic games on train rides. Worth it.
 

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Wait, is the full game list out? All I remember hearing was FF VII, Tekken 3, and Wild Arms. As much as I love FF VII, its almost as easy to find now as My Cousin Vinny and Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. VII is on PS1, PS3, PS4, PC, and will soon be on Switch & Xbox1.

EDIT: So still only 5 out of the intended 20 are known. Chances are Crash & Spyro will make it in, but there's a ton of things that probably won't make it that should.

Also, Pakky Pakky , as much as Monster Rancher 2 would be awesome, these are digital, pre-loaded games; there'd be no way to put in a new disc for it to read and create a monster. the 'Open' button on the classic just brings you to the virtual menu to change games.
They just allow you to "load" a new disc by pressing the button.

Maybe that's too much work, sigh... I miss Monster Rancher...

Wait... No Oddworld... Jesus.
 
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Sigh... Why does Sony copy everyone?
>when Sony does it
>"wow old games who cares lol, **** you Clony"
>but when Nintendo does it
>"YES THANK YOU SO MUCH WE'LL BE FINALLY ABLE TO PLAY CLASSIC GAMES AGAIN!! TAKE MY MONI PL0X"
Look man i love Nintendo but plug-n-play consoles weren't invented by them, i can smell your bias from kilometers
 
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I mean quality is irrelevant if nobody can ****ing buy it
As blasphemous as it sounds, I wish the Target & Walmart near me would run out of stock for the SNES Classic. I have to fight temptation every time I pass the damn thing. I want it, but I dont want to spend money on something I know I could just build via emulator with minimal knowledge!
 

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So, assuming Spirits is an adventure mode with cutscenes of some kind, what team-ups are you hoping for? Here are mine!:

:ultinkling: with :ultluigi:
I don't know why this idea popped in my head, but after it did, I loved it. I imagine Luigi would be super cowardly and afraid of confrontation, while Inkling would always rush in and drag him into it. Plus, I like the idea of him being frightened by them at first 'cause their eyes look like a Blooper's.

:ultmario: with :ultsonic:
This would basically be making a childhood dream come true. I would love to see how these two would interact in a Subspace setting.

:ultsamus: with :ultisabelle:
I need to see a cutscene of Isabelle saving Samus from Ridley.

:ultridley: with :ultdarksamus:
Would be really interesting to see how they'd interact.

:ultwario: with :ultkrool:
I feel like these two would be hilarious together. I could see K. Rool trying to order him around and Wario, being his typical "I don't give a dang" self, would just completely ignore him and do his own thing.

That's all I got for now. I'll see if I can think some more up later.
Don't forget :ultlink: & :ultcloud: due to the old OoT and FF7 rivalry.

Also you could do this too :ultsimon: & :ultrichter: vs :ultridley: Metroidvania!
 

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As blasphemous as it sounds, I wish the Target & Walmart near me would run out of stock for the SNES Classic. I have to fight temptation every time I pass the damn thing. I want it, but I dont want to spend money on something I know I could just build via emulator with minimal knowledge!
Oh God I know this feeling too well. Waaay too well. I saw one just sitting there at the store the other day and it took a lot of internal debate to make me walk away.
 

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>when Sony does it
>"wow old games who cares lol, **** you Clony"
>but when Nintendo does it
>"YES THANK YOU SO MUCH WE'LL BE FINALLY ABLE TO PLAY CLASSIC GAMES AGAIN!! TAKE MY MONI PL0X"
Look man i love Nintendo but plug-n-play consoles weren't invented by them, i can smell your bias from kilometers
You're right. But still, let's not forget:

 

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No.

Pack it up.
I only asked, sheesh
Are you saying one single alt would make you actually get the game?
Dude its over Zss is not getting a smash 4 alt that gives her Smash 4 skin please stop talking about it.Its Over dude
There’s actually multiple alts I want for multiple characters, but don’t let that stop from you from having another go at browbeating me into accepting the ultimate Zamus design...

TP Link, Zelda and Ganondorf
Samus Returns and Metroid Prime 2 Samus

...because that was gonna be the next question, wasn’t it? :p
 

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I've done it before so just: suprise me.

There was little to no logic making :ultsamus: and :ultpikachu:, :ultpokemontrainer: and :ultlucas: or :ultdiddy: and :ultfox: teams, but it worked. I hope we'll get more character interactions like that.

(Also :ultpeach: giving her parasol to :ultgnw: is still the best thing)
:ultsamus::ultpikachu:= Pikachu is an alien species. It's lucky Samus didn't blow it up.

:ultpokemontrainer::ultlucas:= Pokemon Trainer and Lucas are both kids? There is probably a deeper connection than that.

:ultdiddy::ultfox:= If you want to take DK VIne's DK universe into account, Tricky the Triceratops is in both Diddy Kong Racing and Star Fox Adventures. Plus, you have the general RARE connections.
 

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So, assuming Spirits is an adventure mode with cutscenes of some kind, what team-ups are you hoping for? Here are mine!:

:ultinkling: with :ultluigi:
I don't know why this idea popped in my head, but after it did, I loved it. I imagine Luigi would be super cowardly and afraid of confrontation, while Inkling would always rush in and drag him into it. Plus, I like the idea of him being frightened by them at first 'cause their eyes look like a Blooper's.

:ultmario: with :ultsonic:
This would basically be making a childhood dream come true. I would love to see how these two would interact in a Subspace setting.

:ultsamus: with :ultisabelle:
I need to see a cutscene of Isabelle saving Samus from Ridley.

:ultridley: with :ultdarksamus:
Would be really interesting to see how they'd interact.

:ultwario: with :ultkrool:
I feel like these two would be hilarious together. I could see K. Rool trying to order him around and Wario, being his typical "I don't give a dang" self, would just completely ignore him and do his own thing.

That's all I got for now. I'll see if I can think some more up later.
:ultlucina:and:ultshulk:
:ultinkling:and:ultsonic:
:ultluigi:and:ultlucario:
:ultyounglink:and:ultpokemontrainer:
:ulttoonlink:and:ultrobin
:ultsnake:and:ultduckhunt:
:ultrichter:and:ultdoc:
:ultroy:and:ultcorrin:
:ultganondorf:and:ultridley:
Most of these may seem a bit strange, and that's because they are a bit strange, but these are definitely pairs I'd like to see.
 

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Umm?

Cool, but where's the rest?

was this on a leak list?
I find it ridiculous that it comes with no AC adapter. I was told that the SNES doesn't have one either, I could have sworn it did. It's ridiculous either way, but ESPECIALLY ridiculous for the PS1 Classic considering that thing is ****ing $100.

Now that I think about it, I wonder if it will have any sort of savestate support, or if it will only support emulating the memory cards for games that had memorycard support. I guess it could be fun for collectors if you could hack it to add more games.

Where's Ape Escape?
Ape Escape isn’t possible because it requires the analog sticks.
 

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I don't think I'll get the PS mini, purely because they cheaped out and didn't give the controllers analogue sticks.

How am I supposed to get nostalgic without Ape Escape?
 

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So, assuming Spirits is an adventure mode with cutscenes of some kind, what team-ups are you hoping for? Here are mine!:

:ultinkling: with :ultluigi:
I don't know why this idea popped in my head, but after it did, I loved it. I imagine Luigi would be super cowardly and afraid of confrontation, while Inkling would always rush in and drag him into it. Plus, I like the idea of him being frightened by them at first 'cause their eyes look like a Blooper's.

:ultmario: with :ultsonic:
This would basically be making a childhood dream come true. I would love to see how these two would interact in a Subspace setting.

:ultsamus: with :ultisabelle:
I need to see a cutscene of Isabelle saving Samus from Ridley.

:ultridley: with :ultdarksamus:
Would be really interesting to see how they'd interact.

:ultwario: with :ultkrool:
I feel like these two would be hilarious together. I could see K. Rool trying to order him around and Wario, being his typical "I don't give a dang" self, would just completely ignore him and do his own thing.

That's all I got for now. I'll see if I can think some more up later.
I want Simon teamed with mega man and Pit.

It’ll be mega terrificus.
 

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So, assuming Spirits is an adventure mode with cutscenes of some kind, what team-ups are you hoping for? Here are mine!:

:ultinkling: with :ultluigi:
I don't know why this idea popped in my head, but after it did, I loved it. I imagine Luigi would be super cowardly and afraid of confrontation, while Inkling would always rush in and drag him into it. Plus, I like the idea of him being frightened by them at first 'cause their eyes look like a Blooper's.

:ultmario: with :ultsonic:
This would basically be making a childhood dream come true. I would love to see how these two would interact in a Subspace setting.

:ultsamus: with :ultisabelle:
I need to see a cutscene of Isabelle saving Samus from Ridley.

:ultridley: with :ultdarksamus:
Would be really interesting to see how they'd interact.

:ultwario: with :ultkrool:
I feel like these two would be hilarious together. I could see K. Rool trying to order him around and Wario, being his typical "I don't give a dang" self, would just completely ignore him and do his own thing.

That's all I got for now. I'll see if I can think some more up later.
:ultwolf:+:ultmetaknight: + :ultdarkpit: the rivals
:ultsnake:+:ultcloud: the mercenaries
:ultbayonetta:+:ultrobin versed in dark arts
:ultshulk:+:ultlucario: because...idk
:ultlucina:+:ultchrom:+:ultfalcon: put what happened before behind them (also yay character development!!)
 
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Soul Emblem would genuinely be hype but all rosters without Sacred Stones suck. I should give a go at a roster later.
Ergeiz God Bless the Ring says hi

Also daaaaaamn Nintendo let Custom Robo go into public domain. That's. That's genuinely shocking
Ergheiz only has FFVII characters and Sasuke so it gets a pass from me.
In Nintendo's defense, the Sega ones suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
Not the ones here in Brazil though, those certainly don't.
 

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:ultsamus::ultpikachu:= Pikachu is an alien species. It's lucky Samus didn't blow it up.

:ultpokemontrainer::ultlucas:= Pokemon Trainer and Lucas are both kids? There is probably a deeper connection than that.

:ultdiddy::ultfox:= If you want to take DK VIne's DK universe into account, Tricky the Triceratops is in both Diddy Kong Racing and Star Fox Adventures. Plus, you have the general RARE connections.
I always assumed :ultpikachu::ultsamus: was because of the similarities to the baby Metroid, or the animals at the end of Super Metroid.
Samus tends to take pity on them.
Also, Pikachu was being tortured for his electricity. Samus saved him because of that.

:ultpokemontrainer::ultlucas: I think was because of them both belonging to RPGs, and Red overall being more independent compared to Lucas. So it was the contrast of personality.
Or maybe it was because they were both from the GBA era.
 

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I don't think I'll get the PS mini, purely because they cheaped out and didn't give the controllers analogue sticks.

How am I supposed to get nostalgic without Ape Escape?
I didn't grow up with a PS1, but I can understand the feeling if they ever made a Sega Saturn Mini.

How can I enjoy NiGHTS without that joystick controller? Because you know they wouldn't include it.
 

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I only asked, sheesh


There’s actually multiple alts I want for multiple characters, but don’t let that stop from you from having another go at browbeating me into accepting the ultimate Zamus design...

TP Link, Zelda and Ganondorf
Samus Returns and Metroid Prime 2 Samus

...because that was gonna be the next question, wasn’t it? :p
Bruh Samus looks the same, like, she's got the same futuristic outfit from Brawl and she still looks hot
 

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:ultpokemontrainer::ultlucas:= Pokemon Trainer and Lucas are both kids? There is probably a deeper connection than that.
I could be mistaken, but I believe that a lot of the creators of Pokemon actually worked on the Mother series first. That's why they have similarities in gameplay, and a lot of people think that's also why Mewtwo resembles Giygas.

...Or so I've heard. I've never actually played a Mother game.
 
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