Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[PlasmaDam]

Guys if They make Ashley or Waluigi in to a fighter now In smash ulitmate think of the discourse if this happens a ****storm will down hard

 

[ThatOneAnon]

So we are now going to throw a hissy fit if a character gets in because one dude made a death threat and also happened to like a specific character.....yeah
**** that.

People need to let things go. A few bad apples DON'T GET to ruin the bunch. It isn't even a possibility. Ashley is not ruined as a character because of one clown of a human being.

I’m not saying I’d throw a hissy fit, I’m saying the community at large would.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So it looks like the music theory continues to be true. Things are looking good for Pokemon, Xenoblade and Sonic.

We know Incineroar and Shadow are the obvious picks. Xenoblade though is the only question? Elma or Rex & Pyra. The latter I feel will be DLC so I'd bet Elma.

 

[perfectchaos83]

So it looks like the music theory continues to be true. Things are looking good for Pokemon, Xenoblade and Sonic.

Don't count on Sonic getting a unique. The licensing for Sonic music is a goddamn nightmare and remixing it is hard as hell. That's why There's only been one Smash remix for Sonic in the series.

 

[Idon]

Corrin. And Bayonetta, arguably.

No, there was a ton of backlash online, but still, the support for both Corrin and Bayonetta far outweighed the negative reception.
The heated negative opinions are the ones you remember the most, but most comments were lukewarm at worst.

 

[Will]

No, there was a ton of backlash online, but still, the support for both Corrin and Bayonetta far outweighed the negative reception.
The heated negative opinions are the ones you remember the most, but most comments were lukewarm at worst.

lukewarm is support?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Don't count on Sonic getting a unique. The licensing for Sonic music is a goddamn nightmare and remixing it is hard as hell. That's why There's only been one Smash remix for Sonic in the series.

If anything it'd be an echo which would be Shadow.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

We know Incineroar and Shadow are the obvious picks. Xenoblade though is the only question? Elma or Rex & Pyra. The latter I feel will be DLC so I'd bet Elma.

I certainly hope we get Shadow at base.

I see Rex&Pyra as a near lock for DLC too, despite me not particularly caring bout Xeno 2, it's too successful for Sakurai to possibly ignore in a DLC phase.

 

[ThatOneAnon]

No, there was a ton of backlash online, but still, the support for both Corrin and Bayonetta far outweighed the negative reception.
The heated negative opinions are the ones you remember the most, but most comments were lukewarm at worst.

The only person who I can remember was hyped for Corrin was Etika.

 

[Chrono.]

Arcsys did just that. IIRC they removed Freeza's black alt in Fighterz despite it being in the beta. Of course it's not Smash, but...

They also removed Goku's lighter gi color that resembled the manga more.

But that one probably looked too similar to the default...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I certainly hope we get Shadow at base.

I see Rex&Pyra as a near lock for DLC too, despite me not particularly caring bout Xeno 2, it's too successful for Sakurai to possibly ignore in a DLC phase.

Especially being he's a Xenoblade fan.

 

[hposter]

Don't count on Sonic getting a unique. The licensing for Sonic music is a goddamn nightmare and remixing it is hard as hell. That's why There's only been one Smash remix for Sonic in the series.

to be fair, there are 6 more sonic tracks in ultimate

 

[Murlough]

I’m not saying I’d throw a hissy fit, I’m saying the community at large would.

There would be a few vocal people here and there and maybe a reddit post that reaches 300+ votes, but they don't speak for the community as a whole.

Anybody who actually lets a single person ruin literally anything needs to take a course in common sense. There have been shooters who loved Dance, Dance Revolution. Does everyone scream when another Dance, Dance Revolution comes out? Do people hate others who play Dance, Dance Revolution? Hell no, because that would be damn stupid.

People drive me crazy.

 

[perfectchaos83]

to be fair, there are 6 more sonic tracks in ultimate

Chances are, they are all the original versions, just like every other Sonic track bar Angel Island.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

to be fair, there are 6 more sonic tracks in ultimate

I hope we get some amazing remixes, Jun & Otani doing other game music is rad though already.

I'm kinda curious which composers decided to do Sonic tracks.

 

[Will]

it's too successful for Sakurai to possibly ignore in a DLC phase.

You're giving me 2014 vibes here.

 

[Idon]

lukewarm is support?

Lukewarm is at least not in the "negative opinion" territory.

For a fanbase as easily pleased as Smash, it'd take a lot to get >50% of people to fall into that territory.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

You're giving me 2014 vibes here.

My mistake, wasn't my intent.

My gut just says he won't pass over Xeno 2, unfortunately I do see him skipping over X, and I hope for 2 fans i'm right on their part, but for X ones that i'm wrong.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What if instead we got a Xenoblade X stage but otherwise Rex & Pyra. Win-win with both Xenoblade games.

 

[PlasmaDam]

most of the time when the smash fanbase pushes for certain Chracthers and get mad are Salty when they dont get in Like Shadow isn't bassicly guaranteed in Smash ulitmate your setting yourself for disappointment Shadow has like a 50 50 chance

 

[Zinith]

Also while I was looking through the Mariowiki to find that picture book image, I found a lovely image taken out of context:

I'll leave it to you to find the context...

 

[Idon]

What if instead we got a Xenoblade X stage but otherwise Rex & Pyra. Win-win with both Xenoblade games.

Yeah but it's a lose to people who wanted to play as Elma or wanted an Alrest stage.

 

[Chrono.]

to be fair, there are 6 more sonic tracks in ultimate

It's more likely to be two new songs, given that that the other 4 line up well with the missing tracks from 4.

I could be wrong, obviously. But it makes a fair amount of sense.

Either way, I can't see music having any bearing on Sonic getting another character. Echo or not.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

most of the time when the smash fanbase pushes for certain Chracthers and get mad are Salty when they dont get in Like Shadow isn't bassicly guaranteed in Smash ulitmate your setting yourself for disappointment Shadow has like a 50 50 chance

Stuff looks decent for Shadow, which is why I'm finally pushing for him.

If he's not in so be it, but I do always want to show my support, and it's looking interesting for his chances this time.

 

[Jetsurge]

most of the time when the smash fanbase pushes for certain Chracthers and get mad are Salty when they dont get in Like Shadow isn't bassicly guaranteed in Smash ulitmate your setting yourself for disappointment Shadow has like a 50 50 chance

I definely think we're getting at least one Sonic newcomer either Tails as a semi-clone or Shadow as an echo or if we're lucky both. And Dr. Eggman would be an amazing boss.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Yeah but it's a lose to people who wanted to play as Elma or wanted an Alrest stage.

Alrighty then what if the opposite then. We get Elma but get an Xenoblade 2 stage.

 

[Will]

Also while I was looking through the Mariowiki to find that picture book image, I found a lovely image taken out of context:

I'll leave it to you to find the context...

Isn't this stuff for Yoshi's Cookie

 

[Noipoi]

Also while I was looking through the Mariowiki to find that picture book image, I found a lovely image taken out of context:

I'll leave it to you to find the context...

Yoshi: "Yoshi!" Hey Mario! Let's switch!

Mario: "Okie-Dokie!"

Yoshi: Who's gonna get ditched to make a jump now?

 

[Zinith]

Isn't this stuff for Yoshi's Cookie

It looks like something from that game, but it isn't...

 

[potato69]

I want Boshi to kill me in his reveal trailer. This is not relevant to any conversation that is currently happening, but it has to be said.

 

[PlasmaDam]

Big Yoshi art in smprg is so Funny.Like that Yoshi is the best Yoshi hands down I want a big Yoshi alt in Smash ulitmate

 

[Murlough]

The only person who I can remember was hyped for Corrin was Etika.

I liked Corrin, the female version anyway.

Alrighty then what if the opposite then. We get Elma but get an Xenoblade 2 stage.

Best timeline to be honest.

 

[MainJPW]

Also while I was looking through the Mariowiki to find that picture book image, I found a lovely image taken out of context:

I'll leave it to you to find the context...

The stove is too high up and Yoshi needs Mario as a stepping stool? He's fixing a stew and flipping something in the frying pan; he's an excellent cook so it'll taste great.

 

[Chumpodile]

I want Boshi to kill me in his reveal trailer. This is not relevant to any conversation that is currently happening, but it has to be said.

Boshi will come for all of us eventually.

 

[Zinith]

Yoshi: "Yoshi!" Hey Mario! Let's switch!

Mario: "Okie-Dokie!"

Yoshi: Who's gonna get ditched to make a jump now?

What makes it so wonderful is my boi looking DOWN at Mario with cooking utensils, grinning...

 

[Nethermoosen]

First box theory and now music theory. I wonder what's next...

Number theory.
Wanna know how I know? I’m gonna make it up right now. It won’t be very solid, but I wanna experiment.

Number Theory

• Sakurai is revealing characters in order of their inclusion to Smash, excluding echoes. In this way, we can assume Sakurai has a set order to his reveal schedule. He is not likely to change number due to months of planning for these reveals and each new character already has a finalized number that will not change.
• If this is true, the character most likely to have been planned for last reveal is a Gen 7 Pokémon and will therefore be the last reveal(if a Pokémon from Gen 7 was planned at all.)
• Additionally, unique characters, since Ridley, have been shown to be revealed according to their original release date timeline. Ridley first appeared in the late 80’s, Simon a little later, K. Rool in 94 and Isabelle in 2011. This rule also applies to all echoes thus far. Inkling is being ignored, because Inkling was the most logical first announcement due to the direct in which Smash was announced(the same time Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion was announced and was used as a fake-out hype trailer).
• Debunk methods:
  • A new character is revealed that made a video game debut before 2012
  • A Gen 7 pokemon is announced before another character who did not debut before Sun and Moon
• Flaws
  • Debunking the character order by year will not debunk the Gen 7 bullet on it’s own.
  • Exception: Debunking the Gen 7 pokemon by the second debunking method discredits the entire theory.

This is not a theory i believe and it isn’t one I personally came up with. I don’t remember who came up with it, but I did add to it.

That person was shot down because of the Inkling exception. I think that’s unfair, considering music theory has the echo exception and this “number theory” has only ONE exception thus far.

Clarification: This is nothing to believe. Just to be a part of if you care to.
Feel free to point out flaws, copy and add evidence or what have you.
Just do so in a friendly manner and I can’t see how we would have a problem.
Box Theory and Music Theory should be no different. It shouldn’t divide anyone.

 

[potato69]

Also while I was looking through the Mariowiki to find that picture book image, I found a lovely image taken out of context:

I'll leave it to you to find the context...

I'm sure there's some nsfw fanart of what happens next.

 

[LetterO]

most of the time when the smash fanbase pushes for certain Chracthers and get mad are Salty when they dont get in Like Shadow isn't bassicly guaranteed in Smash ulitmate your setting yourself for disappointment Shadow has like a 50 50 chance

Shadow isn’t guaranteed, but he’s way more likely than 50 50

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What's the consensus on the LeakyPandy leak since I was at work?

I don't really see it being talked about anywhere, but it's so specific and doesn't contradict Verg or the Box Theory

 

[Chrono.]

What's the consensus on the LeakyPandy leak since I was at work?

I don't really see it being talked about anywhere, but it's so specific and doesn't contradict Verg or the Box Theory

LeakyPandy's record is ****ing awful.

They're no better than Marcus Sellars.