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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Yoshi is just a Mario character with his own series icon because they wanted all starting fighters in 64 to have their own icons but now they gotta stick to it for consistency. You can't change my mind.
 

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Yes 108 stages! Thank god the box theory is dead I wouldn't of been able to take a month of people discussing it.
 

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Yoshi is just a Mario character with his own series icon because they wanted all starting fighters in 64 to have their own icons but now they gotta stick to it for consistency. You can't change my mind.
Or maybe because Yoshi in the 90s was branching out like DK and Wario and has since regressed, while DK and Wario have evolved into entirely unique franchises.
 

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This accurately sums up perhaps the most inane topic in Smash speculation history... and that's saying something.
 

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Yoshi is just a Mario character with his own series icon because they wanted all starting fighters in 64 to have their own icons but now they gotta stick to it for consistency. You can't change my mind.
This begs the question though. If Sakurai wanted to have all starting characters to have separate logos, why not extend that to Luigi and Jigglypuff? It's just two characters. I think people like to go for that conclusion because they don't think Sakurai treats my boi as a star of his own series...
 

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If you discount my most wanted, Boshi, due to the complications of which series he reps, Kamek and Poochy. Both can have moveset potential if you get creative...
Poochy is a dog. Everything he could theoretically do is already covered in Smash by a far more iconic character. As for Kamek, I mean, does he really qualify as a Yoshi character? He's been just as prominent in Mario games.

And then there's the babies, which I suppose count. But I dunno, beating up animals and kids is one thing, but actual babies is another.

Oh, and then there's the Stork! Remember when people legitimately wanted the Stork! I remember those days.
 

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Poochy is a dog. Everything he could theoretically do is already covered in Smash by a far more iconic character. As for Kamek, I mean, does he really qualify as a Yoshi character? He's been just as prominent in Mario games.

And then there's the babies, which I suppose count. But I dunno, beating up animals and kids is one thing, but actual babies is another.

Oh, and then there's the Stork! Remember when people legitimately wanted the Stork! I remember those days.
People wanted the Stork?
 

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Just a quick note.

We could easily get five more stages AND have Box Theory be true.

All it needs is that each stage is either from a series that already has a character (like say, a Pokemon stage) or a stage that won't have a character.
 

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Poochy is a dog. Everything he could theoretically do is already covered in Smash by a far more iconic character. As for Kamek, I mean, does he really qualify as a Yoshi character? He's been just as prominent in Mario games.

And then there's the babies, which I suppose count. But I dunno, beating up animals and kids is one thing, but actual babies is another.

Oh, and then there's the Stork! Remember when people legitimately wanted the Stork! I remember those days.
Isaac is a human. Everything he could theoretically do is covered by other humans.
Megaman is a robot. Everything he could theoretically do is covered by ROB.

What?
 
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Then why didn't they give Luigi his own? Or DK? This is dumb.
starting fighters in 64
Or maybe because Yoshi in the 90s was branching out like DK and Wario and has since regressed, while DK and Wario have evolved into entirely unique franchises.
Eh, Yoshi games still use a lot of Mario stuff, from the babies to Kamek, it's all clearly still Mario. The only "Yoshi" character you could argue in having the same icon as him is Poochy because even Kamek would be considered a Mario character.
 

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My power went out for some reason so I'm way late to the conversation.

He seems like such a genuinely bombastic, fun character. The kind we need in Smash.
Yeah, I agree. I think this is my favorite scene with him though.
It's subbed so you'll have to turn the captions on, but the next two minutes is just pure fun.
 

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There was a problem fetching the tweet

The October Edition of CoroCoro only has 8/8 Direct Screens/Info.

The only new thing is the 108 Stage Count.

It could be a mistake.
 
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Isaac is a human. Everything he could theoretically do is covered by other humans.
Megaman is a robot. Everything he could theoretically do is covered by ROB.

What?
Incineroar is a cat, there are no playable cats.

HOLY ****.

I swear to god if any of you mention Mewtwo
 

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This is actually how I'm feeling right now with the sudden news of CoroCoro confirming 108 stages.

 

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Just a quick note.

We could easily get five more stages AND have Box Theory be true.

All it needs is that each stage is either from a series that already has a character (like say, a Pokemon stage) or a stage that won't have a character.
This is true. The only thing is WHY would they hide these stages? It makes sense for some of them to be tied to unrevealed newcomers. I could easily see a new SF stage for Ken and a new Pokemon stage for Incineroar.
 

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Isaac is a human. Everything he could theoretically do is covered by other humans.
Megaman is a robot. Everything he could theoretically do is covered by ROB.

What?
Alright, smart guy. Explain to me what Poochy does that makes him unique from the other dog on the roster.

See, the fallacy of your argument is that Isaac's actually shown utilizing non-natural abilities in his series, whereas Poochy has been shown to do... dog things.

If ever there was a character suited for an assist trophy role, Poochy's it.
 

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There was a problem fetching the tweet

The October Edition of CoroCoro only has 8/8 Direct Screens/Info.

The only new thing is the 108 Stage Count.

It could be a mistake.
Wait, has CoroCoro made blatant mistakes before?
 

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My power went out for some reason so I'm way late to the conversation.


Yeah, I agree. I think this is my favorite scene with him though.
It's subbed so you'll have to turn the captions on, but the next two minutes is just pure fun.
Black Shadow is...one stone cold ************. My lord.
How can you not love this sick, wicked, boy. Great clip!!
 

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Kamek is definitely a Yoshi character. He did not exist till the first game in the series. He's literally designed for it. He didn't even properly show up otherwise till the RPG's later on as Baby Bowser's caretaker. That's who is meant for. Baby Bowser is a Yoshi character too. Shy Guy is the only one who started as a Mario character, but became more associated with Yoshi instead.

Anyway, Yoshi was currently having his own games when he got his logo. That's all it was, the right timing when actually becoming a character. Wario would have had the Mario logo if it was during Melee, as he only had a few Mario spin-offs at the time. He didn't really separate himself till WarioWare to any major degree. Wario Land is great, but it's a very clear derivative of Mario's games, due to the transformation gimmick being very similar to Mario's power-ups. He also was officially labeled a Mario character in the trophies at the time, which is part of why I believe it'll be like this. Plus, Yoshi's Story, unlike Yoshi's Island, was pretty much pure Yoshi, having little to do with Mario himself. The actual characters still mostly existed, but it also had its own full assets and atmosphere. Yoshi's Island still was basically a design similar to Super Mario World.
 

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Potentially 108 stages? We have a "SPIRITS" mode? I know a certain character made up of 108 spirits...

Spiritomb confirmed!!!!!!!
 
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