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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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4 Melee Roy Mains Viewing This Thread.......

IT'S A SIGN!!!
Brb. Gotta go change my Melee main.
Because of BotW's critical reception. Is was so widely accepted and praised, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a character or representation for the new game. Nintendo is pushing Switch hard and a game as big as Smash will likely showcase their new, best, and brightest junk.
If I’m being honest I don’t even see a BotW character getting in...

Maybe Impa. Big maybe.
 
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I'm seriously having flashbacks from Smash 4's prerelease.
I guess I can't blame most of you, considering you weren't around that time(at least, looking at your join date).
But seriously, these are the same things that kept getting debated back then.
No, HW will not have any influence on Zelda's characters. If it didn't back then, it won't have now.
No, Skull Kid/Midna/one-off character is not going to be included. If they were, it'd have been way back when their games were even somewhat relevant.
NO! HE'S TRASH HUSBANDO!
I know you're supposed to be my mortal enemy but you din't have to kick puppies to estabilish yourself as the bad guy
 

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Because of BotW's critical reception. Is was so widely accepted and praised, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a character or representation for the new game. Nintendo is pushing Switch hard.
I don't think that matters at all. If there's not a character worth adding, then it really doesn't matter how popular the game is. You need a character that would be popular and bring something completely new.

The only option from Breath of The Wild is a newcomer that would be the spirits of all the champions together. Cuz, having only one of them doesn't seem like an option to me.
 

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I am pretty sure crash bandicoot would create a WAY bigger hype since everyone expcted the inklings to be in smash but crash bandicoot would be a huge surprise
But we didn't expect Smash to be revealed. That is the hype. And no character can be bigger than the game.

Well. I don't think Crash will be, anyway. And maybe no character can be.

The game reveal > any character reveal.
 

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HW warrior designs are probably not the way to go, but I think it would be a great idea to further desynchronize the LoZ designs. It gives better representation and makes more sense now that Zelda and Sheik are split up. It also limits the weirdness of "but they're the same person" to Z/Samus, since they aren't just different designs but separate characters.
BotW!Link here already puts the rest of the Zelda reps in awkward positions, especially Sheik and Ganondorf since neither one made an appearance on BotW. It’s the whole SS scenario all over again. I mentioned the HW designs because those designs are the most recent ones that have Link, Zelda, Sheik and Ganondorf in the same “universe” and they’ve very good designs. It would be a waste not to use even one of them. The synchronized TP designs for Smash worked fine until Smash 4 came out and they still had the same old TP designs instead of SS mainly due to Ganondorf and Sheik not being in SS. De-synchronizing the designs would be a better solution in the long run as it allows them to represent more games and they don’t have to request for original designs like Sakurai had to do with Sheik during Brawl’s development just so she wouldn’t be out of place. The same could be applied to ZS Samus and normal Samus.
 
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I think a big misconception that some people have is that everyone is excited about Inklings being in Smash. I'm more excited about the game than Inklings.
 

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We need a new Kirby character or 2. Been forever since MK and 3D joined.
Yeah, I kinda agree that bandana waddle dee is now playable in the Kirby series and would be cool in Smash.
But let's talk about Donkey Kong...
A major franchise that have the numbers of Fire Emblem characters divided by 3.
 

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Plus Sakurai can't ever fully drop Roy,
he's Smash's first original playable character.
"His first game appearance was in the Nintendo-brawler Super Smash Bros. Melee, prior to the release of his own game, The Binding Blade."
-Fire Emblem Wiki
 
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New smash bros? Time for me to revisit my old smashboards account!

I hope this is a new game with new mechanics with either the same speed as Smash 4 or faster,

Story mode would be dope but not necessary

Hopefully rankings online

New characters: Arms, Revali, Captain Toad, Bomberman, Snipperclips (wtf character) more fire emblem characters, more pokemon, Krystal.

Hopefully they continue the 3rd party trend so basically the skys the limit.
 

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I think a big misconception that some people have is that everyone is excited about Inklings being in Smash. I'm more excited about the game than Inklings.
Is it possible to be reverse? A square us a rectangle, but ...
 

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In regards to a Zelda newcomer, I don't really see it happening. Brawl and Smash 4 were kind of proof that Sakurai doesn't want to add one-off side characters from Zelda games, which unfortunately, most of the beloved Zelda characters are. He adds one-offs from Fire Emblem, but those are just the main protagonists of each game.

If there ever is a Zelda newcomer, I'd see it being a recurring character, such as Impa or Tingle. The only problem with that is that neither appeared in BotW, so they're not the relevant anymore. They could toss in Toon Zelda or Tetra to further represent the Toon games, but I still see that as unlikely.

Or Sakurai could just change his mind like he does and toss in one of the Champions.

The ideal choice for me is still, and will always be, Classic/Pig Ganon, in all his blue glory, wielding an oversized trident. Too bad that will never happen because Sakurai hates me personally and rigged the ballot specifically just to make me cry.
 

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Sheik can just use the Sheikah armour + Turban


Ganondorf will need a new design, but Breath of the Wild does offer a lot for inspiration, draw inspiration from the Gerudo, Yoga, Guardians and of course Ganon himself.


And Sheik needs a Yiga colour
 

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Roy is a great character, but I won't be quite sad with his retirement at Smash, or being back later with DLC or something.
That's something that's unnatural about him. One does not be encouraged to hit your enemy on the hilt of the sword.
Yes, I know that's the opposite to Marth tipper... but it just sucks.
The character must be sooo good and strange for this to work. It's like "What if I reward you to do something that to any other character is a misspace situation"
 
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I'd go gay for Kass.
Sexuality is not a choice.
We can all just agree to pound Ike.

In regards to a Zelda newcomer, I don't really see it happening. Brawl and Smash 4 were kind of proof that Sakurai doesn't want to add one-off side characters from Zelda games, which unfortunately, most of the beloved Zelda characters are. He adds one-offs from Fire Emblem, but those are just the main protagonists of each game.

If there ever is a Zelda newcomer, I'd see it being a recurring character, such as Impa or Tingle. The only problem with that is that neither appeared in BotW, so they're not the relevant anymore. They could toss in Toon Zelda or Tetra to further represent the Toon games, but I still see that as unlikely.

Or Sakurai could just change his mind like he does and toss in one of the Champions.

The ideal choice for me is still, and will always be, Classic/Pig Ganon, in all his blue glory, wielding an oversized trident. Too bad that will never happen because Sakurai hates me personally and rigged the ballot specifically just to make me cry.
That is why the champions work so well. Their respective races represent a whole lot more behind the Zelda series. And a good reason to make some cuts :D
 
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Now that it's likely she's gonna get the BotW design, it's a perfect time to implement the Power of Sealing as something like a stun trap.
Smash!Zelda is more of a mix of different Zeldas now. Maybe getting a couple fo BotW-inspired moves would be a good idea.
 

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Smash!Zelda is more of a mix of different Zeldas now. Maybe getting a couple fo BotW-inspired moves would be a good idea.
It really depends on how they go about it. I've grown really fond of the goddess spells cause they really fit the whole magical motif she's got down to a T, so I'll miss them if they change them too much. They could potentially use Urbosa's Fury and Daruk's Protection as replacements for Din's Fire and Nayru's Love, with the Sheikah Slate teleport for Farore's Wind and then the Power of Sealing to really round off the BotW look without changing too much, but I'll still miss the old spells.
 

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Sheik can just use the Sheikah armour + Turban


Ganondorf will need a new design, but Breath of the Wild does offer a lot for inspiration, draw inspiration from the Gerudo, Yoga, Guardians and of course Ganon himself.


And Sheik needs a Yiga colour
I considered that but, ugh...more “original” designs again? If the glorious HW design for Ganondorf isn’t used then we’re left with going back to his classic OoT design which would actually be pretty cool, the WW robes, TP armor again or...calling up Aonuma and ask him if he sketched a BotW Ganondorf in some notebook and work with that.

At this point, Smash!Sheik and Smash!Ganondorf feel like they’re truly Smash-original characters instead of being Zelda series characters. Smash!Roy is in the same boat.

Hmm...it’s my dislike for BotW that puts me on odds about more BotW-inspired designs for Sheik and Ganondorf.
 

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Remember to check on smashbros.com every few days. I don't think we'll get anything until E3 but there's a chance.

One question though, how long did it take for Brawl's version of he site to switch from the one with the 5 newcomers to blog format?
 

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We need a new Kirby character or 2. Been forever since MK and 3D joined.
Bandana Dee is probably the most copy n' paste character that they could add. Just give him his moveset from Return to Dreamland/Star Allies and call it a day. His resume was already impressive during SSB4's development and it's gotten even better with three new playable appearances and cameos in pretty much every other Kirby game since Return to Dreamland.
 

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I just realized how spoiled we were for Smash 4 news. Sakurai started Pic of the Day on the the day of E3 2013 and we got the first "reveal" of Pit having Guardian Orbitars in early July. This is going to be a long wait if we aren't getting anything until E3...

:kirby:
 

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It really depends on how they go about it. I've grown really fond of the goddess spells cause they really fit the whole magical motif she's got down to a T, so I'll miss them if they change them too much. They could potentially use Urbosa's Fury and Daruk's Protection as replacements for Din's Fire and Nayru's Love, with the Sheikah Slate teleport for Farore's Wind and then the Power of Sealing to really round off the BotW look without changing too much, but I'll still miss the old spells.
I could see them giving the Champions’ skills to BotW Link instead. They could work for Zelda herself but Smash!Link needs an overhaul.
 

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Plus Sakurai can't ever fully drop Roy,
he's Smash's first original character.
"His first game appearance was in the Nintendo-brawler Super Smash Bros. Melee, prior to the release of his own game, The Binding Blade."
-Fire Emblem Wiki
Technically, Master Hand would be the first original Smash character. Roy is just the first playable one. Although Mr. Game & Watch literally debuted in Smash as well. He's a combination of the various games into one package.
 
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