Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Knight Dude]

Continuing the trend of my ask you guys a boatload of questions, what are favorite games from some of you're favorite series?
For Me:
Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild. This game was an absolute blast to play. It truly felt like the next big step for the Zelda series.
Metroid: Prime. I loved this game's atmosphere, exploration and music. It's awesome, but Super Metroid and Samus Returns are close seconds.
Metal Gear Solid: MGS 2. I think this is an usual pick for MGS, but still I though was the most interesting out of the first 3 MGS games.
Xenoblade Chronicles: XC2. Damn the artsyle complaints, I freaking loved this entry in the Xenoblade series.

Mega Man: MM2, MM3, MM5, MM6, MM7, MM9
Mega Man X: MMX1, MMX2, MMX3, MMX4
Metroid: Prime, Prime 2, Super, Hunters, Samus Returns
Mario: World, New(DS), SMB3, 3D Land, Sunshine, Double Dash, MKDS
Punch-Out!!: MTPO(only one I've played some of, gotta get more into it)
Pokemon: Gold/Silver, Black/White, ORAS/Emerald
Pac-Man: Pac-Man
Tekken: Tekken 3, Tekken Tag, Tekken 5, Tekken 7
Mortal Kombat: Deception, Shoalin Monks, MK9, MKX, MK3
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Street Fighter: SF2, USF4

I'm sure there's more I can think of, especially if I include licensed games.

 

[splat]

I'm entering ****ing conspiracy mode with Jon from GameXplain.

Like. How in the name of Aerith did he correctly predict Kirby's Epic Yarn for 3DS AND Final Fantasy VII, IX, X, and XII for THIS PARTICULAR DIRECT. He even skipped over VIII! Like, how do you just guess that? There's no way. That is so mathematically impossible. You know what else he "predicted" Golden Sun remakes for 3DS and Isaac in Smash.

This guy is on something. He knows more than he's letting on.

He also talked about Isabelle being the unique newcomer for this direct, IIRC.

 

[HyruleHero]

Continuing the trend of my ask you guys a boatload of questions, what are favorite games from some of you're favorite series?
For Me:
Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild. This game was an absolute blast to play. It truly felt like the next big step for the Zelda series.
Metroid: Prime. I loved this game's atmosphere, exploration and music. It's awesome, but Super Metroid and Samus Returns are close seconds.
Metal Gear Solid: MGS 2. I think this is an usual pick for MGS, but still I though was the most interesting out of the first 3 MGS games.
Xenoblade Chronicles: XC2. Damn the artsyle complaints, I freaking loved this entry in the Xenoblade series.

Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. As much as I enjoyed Botw I have replayed Oot significantly more times and have put more time into it.
Mario: Super Sunshine Mario. As controversial of a pick as this is sunshine is my all time favourite Mario game and 2nd on GC for me.
Pokemon: Sapphire. Only winning because it was my first Pokemon game although it did have some great villains (DPP are probably the best Pokemon games for real though)
Kirby: Super Star Saga. Fun game with all my Kirby needs (although Squeak Squad was pretty good)
Yoshi: Yoshi's Story. I enjoyed the first Yoshi's island game but I have fonder memories of playing this N64 classic.
Donkey Kong: DK64. This is one of the best collectathon games ever only losing to Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie.
Final Fantasy: FFX. My entry into the franchises and it is a great game to. If Kingdom Hearts counts as a FF game then KH1.
Fire Emblem: Awakening. I enjoyed Sacred stones (my first FE game) but FE:Awakening was so much better, loved the story and game
Kid Icarus: Uprising. wasn't really a competition I just thought id share my love for the game (love the dialogue)
Animal Crossing: New Leaf. I mean every instalment just gets better so its not really a competition.
Metroid: Fusion. I have only played the first game and fusion but I enjoyed the story told in fusion more.
Star Fox: Star Fox 64. Fun game I really only played the multiplayer section but non the less a enjoyable game.

With the other franchises I've either only played one game or haven't played any of them so thats me.

 

[BrytonJ]

Whoa whoa whoa what is there a new leaker huh what

Have you ever seen the Bill Murray movie The Man Who Knew too Little? It's basically like that.

 

[Shroob]

Yeah.


Between the pre-E3 Direct "Wouldn't it be funny if they announced Daisy?"

and this last one "I'm thinking Kirby's Epic Yarn for the 3DS/What do you guys feel about Isabelle as a unique character?"


Jon has some sort of 'source/info', that much is obvious.

 

[Luigi The President]

My little heart is broken knowing all these "leakers" have yet to say a word about Paper Mario

 

[Knight Dude]

I'm gonna go with it being a Kanden reference.

Ok cool. At least I'm not crazy for thinking it then.

I wonder what Dark Samus' colors will be, we only got a look at one of them. She was purple and navy blue I think.

But if we ever get more color swaps. I'd still want Samus to get the Prime 2 Multiplayer suits.

It's a bit hard to get really good footage of them. But they look cool to me. Namely the Green and Blue ones.

 

[Noipoi]

My little heart is broken knowing all these "leakers" have yet to say a word about Paper Mario

He can't be around leaks, he'll get all soggy.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm entering ****ing conspiracy mode with Jon from GameXplain.

Like. How in the name of Aerith did he correctly predict Kirby's Epic Yarn for 3DS AND Final Fantasy VII, IX, X, and XII for THIS PARTICULAR DIRECT. He even skipped over VIII! Like, how do you just guess that? There's no way. That is so mathematically impossible. You know what else he "predicted" Golden Sun remakes for 3DS and Isaac in Smash.

This guy is on something. He knows more than he's letting on.

Does anyone have a link to whatever this person said?

 

[Shroob]

I 'think' Jon also advocates for Incineroar, so if nothing else....


Oh god, imagine the browning of pants that'll be had if he says Dante.

 

[Abha]

My little heart is broken knowing all these "leakers" have yet to say a word about Paper Mario

He got lost in the mail system after being used himself as his own Smash invite.
Edit: Now this post disappoints me because I just thought of a really cool way to introduce Paper Mario in a trailer

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

I'm entering ****ing conspiracy mode with Jon from GameXplain.

Like. How in the name of Aerith did he correctly predict Kirby's Epic Yarn for 3DS AND Final Fantasy VII, IX, X, and XII for THIS PARTICULAR DIRECT. He even skipped over VIII! Like, how do you just guess that? There's no way. That is so mathematically impossible. You know what else he "predicted" Golden Sun remakes for 3DS and Isaac in Smash.

This guy is on something. He knows more than he's letting on.

He didn't "predict Isaac in Smash, that was someone else. He predicted Isabelle will get in with a unique moveset though. He also suggested Captain Toad would be on the 3DS and Switch a couple months before the announcement, as well as teasing the idea of Ridley in Smash shortly before Smash was announced. I'm pretty sure there was some other stuff he's "predicted" in the past that I'm not thinking of.

Either way, the dude definitely has insider info.

 

[Heatswave]

I'm relieved the vote here is that much in Isabelles favor, so the haters are just louder and not the majority.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Has this person predicted any other characters or said some characters won't be in?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

He also talked about Isabelle being the unique newcomer for this direct, IIRC.

Yep, he was the only one in their predictions actually. Ash mentioned her being an echo and Jon was like, "Nah, I reckon she'll be unique" like what the hell dude.

 

[Shroob]

Has this person predicted any other characters or said some characters won't be in?

He said Ridley pre-E3

Jokingly said "Wouldn't it be a hoot if they revealed Daisy"

Said Isabelle would be unique

And iirc, he also thinks Incineroar is in, don't quote me on that part

 

[Luigi The President]

He said Ridley pre-E3

Jokingly said "Wouldn't it be a hoot if they revealed Daisy"

Said Isabelle would be unique

And iirc, he also thinks Incineroar is in, don't quote me on that part

Alright Nintendo get this clown

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

He said Ridley pre-E3

Jokingly said "Wouldn't it be a hoot if they revealed Daisy"

Said Isabelle would be unique

And iirc, he also thinks Incineroar is in, don't quote me on that part

Was that the end of his predictions? Nothing beyond today>

 

[Shroob]

Alright Nintendo get this clown

And he's also just casually namedropped games that happened.

Captain Toad 3DS and Kirby's Epic Yarn 3DS recent memory.

 

[Knight Dude]

While not something in the offcial game, Dark Samus could probably have a white/red color swap based on concept art. (unless this was supposed to be a concept for the Light Suit.)

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I kind of feel like the leakers these days are more like the Prophets of old.

Making predictions

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Except, he wasn’t the only person. Hell, I’m sure I could search through the Isabelle thread right now and find someone who said that exact same thing. I guess that would make that persons word from now on gospel wouldn’t it? Seriously, until we know more it’s incredibly easy for him to just have gotten lucky.

Then do so. The burden of proof here falls on you. Also make sure that it's structured as a leak and not just speculation.

The fact is that out of every "leaker" who made a "leak" about the Direct, this guy was the only one.

Like I said, I've been watching 4chan vigilantly, so I can testify to this. It's even more for it that this guy is supposedly the Dante leaker as well, who guessed everything about DMCV.

Saying that this was a lucky guess is like saying Vergeben's picks have been predictable. A lucky guess in a "leak" would be the NeoGAF leaker guessing that Chrom would be a Roy echo. This isn't the same thing.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

While not something in the offcial game, Dark Samus could probably have a white/red color swap based on concept art. (unless this was supposed to be a concept for the Light Suit.)

oh damn that looks sick

 

[Shroob]

Was that the end of his predictions? Nothing beyond today>

He hasn't said anything past Incineroar... maybe Ken?


I'd have to re-watch a lot of their videos.


Regardless, all his **** lines up with Vergeben, and it's really ****ing suspicious how game titles he says just fall out of the sky.

 

[MaestroDavros]

I'm entering ****ing conspiracy mode with Jon from GameXplain.

Like. How in the name of Aerith did he correctly predict Kirby's Epic Yarn for 3DS AND Final Fantasy VII, IX, X, and XII for THIS PARTICULAR DIRECT. He even skipped over VIII! Like, how do you just guess that? There's no way. That is so mathematically impossible. You know what else he "predicted" Golden Sun remakes for 3DS and Isaac in Smash.

This guy is on something. He knows more than he's letting on.

Like I said earlier, I believe it's been mentioned that he's a ResetEra mod. That would potentially make him privy to information like that, to silence accurate leaks. I believe it's been mentioned here before by several people that this same kind of thing happened in the old NeoGaf days (mods privy to confidential info directly from the gaming companies themselves).

 

[HyruleHero]

I'm relieved the vote here is that much in Isabelles favor, so the haters are just louder and not the majority.

Well if it was a Smash direct I'd vote that it was bad but it wasn't about smash and it was perfectly fine as a Nintendo Direct.

 

[Zinith]

So are we back to complaining about an info drought yet?

 

[Abha]

So are we back to complaining about an info drought yet?

It doesn't stop until the game comes out, then we move on to the DLC.

 

[Luigi The President]

Then do so. The burden of proof here falls on you. Also make sure that it's structured as a leak and not just speculation.

The fact is that out of every "leaker" who made a "leak" about the Direct, this guy was the only one.

Like I said, I've been watching 4chan vigilantly, so I can testify to this. It's even more for it that this guy is supposedly the Dante leaker as well, who guessed everything about DMCV.

Saying that this was a lucky guess is like saying Vergeben's picks have been predictable. A lucky guess in a "leak" would be the NeoGAF leaker guessing that Chrom would be a Roy echo. This isn't the same thing.

Dude's way less polite and doesn't type at all like the Dante leaker. Throw your suspicions it's him out if you want to support this new leak.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Oh, I said it in Nintenzone but I'll say it here. Isabelle's a modern character instead of something to cater to old fans which means they're seemingly trying to balance it which is great and Animal Crossing only having a guy as a default character in the roster is a bit odd when it's Nintendo's most popular IP among women so Isabelle is great there too

Sidenote, can I just say how nice it is to have a non-humanoid female character, having a little bit of diversity among the female cast is really nice, adding Dixie would also help in this regard imo.

 

[Paperchampion23]

So are we back to complaining about an info drought yet?

Thats going to happen a alot quicker than last time tbh. Especially if an actual smash direct doesnt happen by October.

It doesn't stop until the game comes out, then we move on to the DLC.

At least people will focus on the game for the most part.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Then do so. The burden of proof here falls on you. Also make sure that it's structured as a leak and not just speculation.

The fact is that out of every "leaker" who made a "leak" about the Direct, this guy was the only one.

Like I said, I've been watching 4chan vigilantly, so I can testify to this. It's even more for it that this guy is supposedly the Dante leaker as well, who guessed everything about DMCV.

Saying that this was a lucky guess is like saying Vergeben's picks have been predictable. A lucky guess in a "leak" would be the NeoGAF leaker guessing that Chrom would be a Roy echo. This isn't the same thing.

Well, you just missed the Jon GameXplain Discussion where he, ahem, "predicted" Animal Crossing, all the Final Fantasy games that got announced, the one that wasn't listed not being announced, Kirby's Epic Yarn for 3DS, and Isabelle as a unique fighter for this Direct. So, there's one.

 

[Shroob]

Honestly, at this point:

Gen 7 Pokemon, regardless of it being Incineroar, and Ken are a lock in my eyes.


There's just too much stuff pointing to Vergeben being right, and now with this supposed Dante guy(Which I don't 100% believe yet), and Jon basically 'predicting' **** and making character calls...


The only one I'm not sure of is the 2nd SE rep.

 

[ZephyrZ]

He can't be around leaks, he'll get all soggy.

It's okay, he's a plumber. He's qualified for extremely dangerous work like this.

 

[Idon]

So are we back to complaining about an info drought yet?

Yes.

The content for this was MUCH less than the smas focused direct so there's not much to pick apart.

Like trying to water a desert with a bottle of water.

 

[Zinith]

Really? Cause I'm good for now.

 

[Heracr055]

Okay so the fishing rod is the command grab and the net is her regular grab. That's good to know because I can't see her pummeling anyone, and the net solves that

 

[Knight Dude]

There's a lot of cool concept art in games man. One Dark Samus/Maybe Light Suit was oddly masculine too. Not that it didn't look cool. But outside the first game, Samus even in the suit is clearly a woman.

There's some really cool concept armors from Mega Man X Command Mission too.

 

[HyruleHero]

Sidenote, can I just say how nice it is to have a non-humanoid female character, having a little bit of diversity among the female cast is really nice, adding Dixie would also help in this regard imo.

What about Pikachu? I also always assumed Jigglypuff was a girl

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Isabelle trying to match the Belmont’s whips with her fishing rod just came to mind and the mental image is hilarious.