Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Draugen]

Eh I'm just going to say it. I'm not a betting man but if In was I'd be putting money on Isaac being revealed this upcoming direct.

Also if that Dovakhin leak is real I'm going to laugh lol they have gotten all the characters right so far like Chrom and Dark samus to be fair.

Hey, sorry to bother you, but what is this Dovakhin leak? I follow a lot of them, but cant remember this one.

 

[Cosmic77]

Whenever someone suggests a Pokemon as an Echo, it usually sounds weird and forced as heck.

There just isn't many Pokemon who are capable of matching an existing character, and those who can even come close are usually too random and out of place to be realistic choices anyway.

 

[Untouch]

I think I'd be fine with a DOOM stage or AT really.
Like a UAC base or something or a Spider Mastermind boss.

 

[So_many_mails]

I hope if we do get a Pokemon its one of the more unique ones.

Like have Rotom turning into different things or Hoopa Unbound with arms flying everywhere.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

If we get a Bethesda Rep, it’s the Dovahkin or bust for me. Vault Boy is cool and Doomslayer is alright. The Nazi Killer Guy is probably the only one I’m not cool with (not cause he kills nazis, tho. I’m cool with that) And I highly doubt it would happen but Corvo Attano and/or Emily Kaldwin from the Dishonored series would work very well in Smash due to thier unique skill set.

But only if Dovahkin is in first. I need to use the Thu’um in battle! I need to see a Whiterun stage! I need Sweetrolls as an item! And I need a Dwarven Centurion Assist Trophy! I need to take an ancient arrow to the knee! I need this song! And I Kirby has to scream “FUS RO DAH”!”

Man, I wanna play Skyrim now but our PS3 is busted. So I’m getting my TES fix with Oblivion on PC.






Whoa, Dunwall would make for an amazing stage! Can’t believe I never thought of this!

 

[drag0nscythe]

I am betting on 2. (I really hope.)
Bandanna Dee in the Beginning and GOEMON at the end (seriously though Prob Geno or Banjo Kazooie to push Minecraft for Switch)

 

[Heracr055]

I still don't see how Skull Kid is seen as a safe bet. Didn't the speculation for him only really take hold after the Smash Direct? If the support for him is after the fact then it's obviously too late.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

Eh, not really.

Incineroar is big, but he’d be kinda lumber and fast. Emboar would just be slow.

Still Incineroar does share quite a few moves with Emboar, so just saying if they wanted to add a 5th gen.. Its probably Emboar or Gothitelle, and Gardevoir has a good chance of being added too so.

 

[MSmariosonic]

I still don't see how Skull Kid is seen as a safe bet. Didn't the speculation for him only really take hold after the Smash Direct? If the support for him is after the fact then it's obviously too late.

There are quite some stuff that point to Skull Kid being playable.

 

[Untouch]

I still don't see how Skull Kid is seen as a safe bet. Didn't the speculation for him only really take hold after the Smash Direct? If the support for him is after the fact then it's obviously too late.

He did get the mask as a costume in Smash 4, that at least suggests some sort of demand being there.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

I still don't see how Skull Kid is seen as a safe bet. Didn't the speculation for him only really take hold after the Smash Direct? If the support for him is after the fact then it's obviously too late.

Ends up being a boss character after all the hype and Linkle ends up actually the new Zelda newcomer.

 

[Pyra]

I still don't see how Skull Kid is seen as a safe bet. Didn't the speculation for him only really take hold after the Smash Direct? If the support for him is after the fact then it's obviously too late.

No.
I've personally been a fan of him days, along with a lot of his following, since about Brawl. It died down a bit cause he became an AT in Smash 4 but considering that status is still ambiguous, then the support is just back with full force.

Ends up being a boss character after all the hype and Linkle ends up actually the new Zelda newcomer.

I personally want Skull Kid to be a boss and a fighter.
It's not too hard to wrap your head around a boss fight that's a souped up Smash match

Even then, the Mask itself would make a cool boss too. Wouldn't invalidate Skull Kid any.

 

[Poopyhead]

So here’s another pointless side quest while we wait for another 14 hours for this Direct.

Let’s say you had only one character to show support for and, because of some driving, unseen force, it can only be a character that is somehow related to your username by name/theme/franchise/alphabet/etc.

For me, Venus of the Desert Bloom. Isaac is obvious pick so I’m gonna do the opposite and choose Krookadile.

ez pz

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hey guys how many new comers do you think we have left including Echos i would say 10 Max

I’d say
1. Isabelle
2. Elma
3. Incineroar
4. Ken
5. Waddle Dee
6. Black Shadow
7. Shadow
8. Chorus Kids
9. Lloyd Irving (Namco rep 2)
10. Neku Sakuraba (Square rep 2)
11. Shantae
12. Isaac

DLC 1. Dixie Kong
DLC 2. Rex & Pyra
DLC 3. Octoling
DLC 4. ARMS character
DLC 5. Gen 8 Pokémon
DLC 6. Celica
DLC 7. Dragalia Lost protag
DLC 8. Zack Fair (Cloud Echo)

 

[Guynamednelson]

Still Incineroar does share quite a few moves with Emboar, so just saying if they wanted to add a 5th gen.. Its probably Emboar or Gothitelle, and Gardevoir has a good chance of being added too so.

Emboar would need to be fully reanimated, and the reason why people doubt Gothitelle is because it's a million times less iconic than Gardevoir, and Pokemon representation runs on rules that prevent "Well nobody liked the Duck Hunt dog either" from being a valid counterargument.

 

[Androobie]

Remember when K. Rool was trademarked in Smash 4?

These trademarks don't automatically translate to a playable character. Nintendo could be trademarking these series because of a new song or a Mii Costume. Basically, any content related to the series could be fair game.

That's just Nintendo renewing the trademarks on the series so that they don't expire. That happens a lot to dead franchises.

Nintendo also put a trademark on Mario Super Sluggers and Wrecking Crew.

oMG FOREMAN SPIKE AND MARIO WITH A BASEBALL BAT CONFIRMED RIGHT GUYS?

And hey, remember in 2015 when they put a trademark out for King K. Rool and that totally confirmed him for DLC in Smash 4?


Trademarks mean nothing for a character’s chances, calm down.

People always do this everytime quite ****ing stupid tbh

Holy ****, r/wooosh x4.

 

[P.Kat]

https://twitter.com/SmashBrosGER/status/1040203323855523842
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Hm, interesting. Geno doesn't seem to be that famous here, but makes sense, as Super Mario RPG was never released on the SNES in germany.
Also the first time I saw Felix in an Echo vote...

I'm just surprised that Ammy made the it on the polls, she usually doesn't make it on any polls

 

[Gothitelle]

So here’s another pointless side quest while we wait for another 14 hours for this Direct.

Let’s say you had only one character to show support for and, because of some driving, unseen force, it can only be a character that is somehow related to your username by name/theme/franchise/alphabet/etc.

For me, Venus of the Desert Bloom. Isaac is obvious pick so I’m gonna do the opposite and choose Krookadile.

Well, that one was easy

 

[Pyra]

So here’s another pointless side quest while we wait for another 14 hours for this Direct.

Let’s say you had only one character to show support for and, because of some driving, unseen force, it can only be a character that is somehow related to your username by name/theme/franchise/alphabet/etc.

For me, Venus of the Desert Bloom. Isaac is obvious pick so I’m gonna do the opposite and choose Krookadile.

I think mine would have to be Chibi-robo...

 

[SebasSancy]

Golden sun last trademark was back in 2009, so they must renew the trademark in 2019, why now?

Nintendo trademark applications for Wrecking Crew, Rhythm Heaven, Mario Super Sluggers and Golden Sun have been made public today.

Trademarks in Japan last 10 years before they need renewing.

Mario Super Sluggers and Rhythm Heaven released in 2008. Wrecking Crew '98 in 1998.

— Pixelpar (@pixelpar) September 13, 2018

I Know it can be nothing, but why today? Its so cruel before a direct hahaha

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I still don't see how Skull Kid is seen as a safe bet. Didn't the speculation for him only really take hold after the Smash Direct? If the support for him is after the fact then it's obviously too late.

I don’t think any of the characters ever where a safe bet. Simon was almost non-existent until Vergeburger. Ridley too and K Rool jumped on the Ridley train. Dark Samus was a sure fire after the AT and Samus’s alt was missing. Chrom wasn’t a serious pick until after his reveal. Daisy was well...being Daisy elsewhere.

The only for sure bet were the Inklings prior to thier trailer dropped. But I think so many characters are “safe bets” cause either:

1. They are new
2. Heavily requested for years
3. Missing from the previous game
4. Franchises who weren’t repped often ( DK and Metroid)

Skull Kid fits 3 and 4 as the new LoZ character since it’s AT missing and possibly replaced by the Moon. And the Moon could be it’s Final Smash but I see it changing into Majora’s Wrath and attacking players.

 

[Loz18-Echo]

Holy ****, r/wooosh x4.

Not really as people are already going out thinking Isaac is appearing in this direct now because of it.

So i don't know where your getting your wooosh from

 

[Deleted member]

Huh, I’d usually say this kinda thing isn’t worth looking to deep into, but that seems kinda different than a typical PR answer.

Although the main thing is that before the Switch in 2017, Nintendo just didn’t have any Bethesda games, so I can’t really see any as a playable character since that would’ve had to have been planned since 2015.

However, I could see a Bethesda character in another role like a boss or assist trophy.

A boss could be a dragon from Skyrim, some big demon from Doom, or some mutant from Fallout (I’m the most knowledgeable person on Bethesda games).

A Vault Boy assist would be kinda funny. Not sure exactly what he could do, but it could work. He could be like Tingle where he has multiple random things he could do, with the activities taken from the different perk icons in Fallout.

I'd be cool with a Bethesda character in Smash. If we're talking western 3rd parties, I think Bethesda is the best choice.
It'd be cool seeing a Fallout character, an Elder Scrolls character, or better yet Doomguy.

 

[ToddCam]

The downside of Isaac in Smash? The endless sight of the misspelling "Issac".

 

[Soulsaint]

So here’s another pointless side quest while we wait for another 14 hours for this Direct.

Let’s say you had only one character to show support for and, because of some driving, unseen force, it can only be a character that is somehow related to your username by name/theme/franchise/alphabet/etc.

For me, Venus of the Desert Bloom. Isaac is obvious pick so I’m gonna do the opposite and choose Krookadile.

I used to be a part of a very cool Soul Calibur 3 forum. My name came from Soul Caliburs Create a Soul and Saint, one the classes you could choose in create a soul Ot's also an OC. However, this name came about because I was excited for Zasalamel and Zasalamels style was available in the Saint class:

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Golden sun last trademark was back in 2009, so they must renew the trademark in 2019, why now?

Nintendo trademark applications for Wrecking Crew, Rhythm Heaven, Mario Super Sluggers and Golden Sun have been made public today.

Trademarks in Japan last 10 years before they need renewing.

Mario Super Sluggers and Rhythm Heaven released in 2008. Wrecking Crew '98 in 1998.

— Pixelpar (@pixelpar) September 13, 2018

I Know it can be nothing, but why today? Its so cruel before a direct hahaha

It means we’re getting a Mario Sluggers sequel and a Golden Sun reboot

 

[?????????????]

So here’s another pointless side quest while we wait for another 14 hours for this Direct.

Let’s say you had only one character to show support for and, because of some driving, unseen force, it can only be a character that is somehow related to your username by name/theme/franchise/alphabet/etc.

For me, Venus of the Desert Bloom. Isaac is obvious pick so I’m gonna do the opposite and choose Krookadile.

Hm...Pizza huh...

 

[Pyra]

Not really as people are already going out thinking Issac is appearing in this direct now because of it.

So i don't know where your getting your wooosh from

Nah, it really just confirms that the Japanese Copyright System is a new assist trophy.

 

[?????????????]

The downside of Isaac in Smash? The endless sight of the misspelling "Issac".

Story of my life.

 

[osby]

I think mine would have to be Chibi-robo...

I want to make a Persona joke but I doubt people would get it.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

The downside of Isaac in Smash? The endless sight of the misspelling "Issac".

Took me awhile to realize you spelt his name wrong on purpose

 

[Deleted member]

A shame time couldn't move just a smidge faster to make this wait go by a bit smoother lol. I was never expecting too many new characters after Sakurai's initial statement, so 5 in that least direct blew my mind. This is not really a smash-focused one, so if there's any information at all, I don't think it'll be beyond 1 unique and echo introduced.

I'm thinking it'll probably go in hand with another reveal within the direct. Like the reveal of a new port of something or just a new game entirely with the end of it showing off that the protagonist (or villain) will also be in Smash. Like, maybe, a port of Golden Sun with the follow-up that Issac will also appear in Smash; or showing a combo port of Majora's Mask & Wind Waker coming to Switch with the end of the announcement saying that Skull Kid and/or Tetra will be joining Smash. Something like that anyway. I'd love for the Pokemon rep to be announced so my fears can be eased as to whether there even will be one.

The downside of Isaac in Smash? The endless sight of the misspelling "Issac".

At least it's not as bad as how many people misspell 'Freeza' as "Frieza"

 

[Freduardo]

So here’s another pointless side quest while we wait for another 14 hours for this Direct.

Let’s say you had only one character to show support for and, because of some driving, unseen force, it can only be a character that is somehow related to your username by name/theme/franchise/alphabet/etc.

For me, Venus of the Desert Bloom. Isaac is obvious pick so I’m gonna do the opposite and choose Krookadile.

It has to connect to my username?

My username has nothing to do with video games! I’m limited to nothing more than the letter F! This narrows the field so much it as aggravating as insect legs providing tickles!

What I’m trying to say is, I have fury.

Fawful.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

So here’s another pointless side quest while we wait for another 14 hours for this Direct.

Let’s say you had only one character to show support for and, because of some driving, unseen force, it can only be a character that is somehow related to your username by name/theme/franchise/alphabet/etc.

For me, Venus of the Desert Bloom. Isaac is obvious pick so I’m gonna do the opposite and choose Krookadile.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles confirmed for Smash

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

I don’t think any of the characters ever where a safe bet. Simon was almost non-existent until Vergeburger. Ridley too and K Rool jumped on the Ridley train. Dark Samus was a sure fire after the AT and Samus’s alt was missing. Chrom wasn’t a serious pick until after his reveal. Daisy was well...being Daisy elsewhere.

The only for sure bet were the Inklings prior to thier trailer dropped. But I think so many characters are “safe bets” cause either:

1. They are new
2. Heavily requested for years
3. Missing from the previous game
4. Franchises who weren’t repped often ( DK and Metroid)

Skull Kid fits 3 and 4 as the new LoZ character since it’s AT missing and possibly replaced by the Moon. And the Moon could be it’s Final Smash but I see it changing into Majora’s Wrath and attacking players.

Medusa is missing from the previous game and she just so happens to be both the iconic villain to the entire Kid Icarus series and could echo as Palutena's counterpart.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

I just had a thought...I don't think a general direct is the best place for characters like Isaac and Geno. They're super niche characters that are more popular with the smash community than Nintendo fans as a whole. If they are in the game I'd expect them in a Smash specific direct.

Yea, more convinced we will see a Pokemon or Zelda newcomer.

 

[drag0nscythe]

I’d say
1. Isabelle
2. Elma
3. Incineroar
4. Ken
5. Waddle Dee
6. Black Shadow
7. Shadow
8. Chorus Kids
9. Lloyd Irving (Namco rep 2)
10. Neku Sakuraba (Square rep 2)
11. Shantae
12. Isaac

DLC 1. Dixie Kong
DLC 2. Rex & Pyra
DLC 3. Octoling
DLC 4. ARMS character
DLC 5. Gen 8 Pokémon
DLC 6. Celica
DLC 7. Dragalia Lost protag
DLC 8. Zack Fair (Cloud Echo)

I still stand behind 3 more unique fighters only.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

I just had a thought...I don't think a general direct is the best place for characters like Isaac and Geno. They're super niche characters that are more popular with the smash community than Nintendo fans as a whole. If they are in the game I'd expect them in a Smash specific direct.

Yea, more convinced we will see a Pokemon or Zelda newcomer.

I think we will definitely see the new Pokemon for sure today.

 

[monadoboy]

Golden sun last trademark was back in 2009, so they must renew the trademark in 2019, why now?

Nintendo trademark applications for Wrecking Crew, Rhythm Heaven, Mario Super Sluggers and Golden Sun have been made public today.

Trademarks in Japan last 10 years before they need renewing.

Mario Super Sluggers and Rhythm Heaven released in 2008. Wrecking Crew '98 in 1998.

— Pixelpar (@pixelpar) September 13, 2018

I Know it can be nothing, but why today? Its so cruel before a direct hahaha

I think it's just a coincidence considering the direct postponement

 

[drag0nscythe]

I think we will definitely see the new Pokemon for sure today.

Or bandana dee and banjo kazooie.

Or minecraft steve.

A big name.