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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Tbh if the reveal is a pokemon it's gonna be so boring :( it's not like i hate them its just the predictable character that always comes every game.

But if its a character you want congratz
I pretty much feel that way, yeah. I am 100% in the group of people that would much rather attention be given to series like Zelda, Kirby, or a new franchise. Pokemon are fine, I just personally can't get excited for them anymore. To each their own, though!

That's how I feel. Now feels like the best time to reveal a Pokemon newcomer. It may be just me but I don't think a Pokemon newcomer reveal in a final Smash direct really hits the mark. A Pokemon here just feels natural. If not here Idk where else.
I could maybe see one as an opener for the final Direct, but as a closer? Nah, not really.
 

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Wow that's a very cute art! Where did you find that amazing artwork?

Also I like that Lip and Shantae are in the final picture! Makes me proud, because whoever was trying to finish it, he or she knew that there were still Lip/Shantae fans. The latter I did expect slightly, but the former not. Panel de Pon seems a bit obscure now.
in 4chan, specifically /v/
When there is a finish version I will probably post it here too.
 

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Or...he's a fraud.

:4pacman:
There's that to, of course.


But if Skull Kid IS revealed in this Direct, then there's no much we can say, huh?

He's been preaching that "SKULL KID'S IN!" since August, and if he really is a script translator, that would explain why.
 

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The thing I don't 'get' about Loz is that;


Okay, let's do a thought experiment here and say he's legit, but just being an *** about it.


Why does he basically go out of his way to disagree with all the points that Vergeben has made, when Vergeben has been right up to this point?



And then it kind of hit me.


Loz has mentioned something about 'scripts' in the past, meaning that whatever he actually 'does', if anything, probably has something to do with translating.


So in theory, of course he wouldn't know why Vergeben has said characters like "Isabelle, Ken, Incineroar", if he hasn't actually worked on any documents that involve them yet. If they're to be shown in the final direct, then up til now, he probably wouldn't have ever known about them being in the game.


This would explain why he'd supposedly know about K.Rool and Skull Kid soo early on, due to working on their scripts, and why he's soo adamant about no Isaac.
the only thing Loz18 had was that he saw the demo build for Smash Ultimate during e3 before everyone. Everything else he has said he's got no proof
 
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Did anything happen in the last 10 hours?
Me saying stupid things, arguments about leaker cultists and a female fighter beauty contest/competition, among other things.

Oh, and a Direct might be imminent within a couple days.

Someone in 4chan is finishing that one image with the characters that are not in smash but are being requested:
View attachment 163423

For comparison, this is the original one that was just a sketch:
You know, 4Chan is a nasty, nasty place, but sometimes, they're alright when enough people agree on something. I do like how the darker black coloring makes Black Shadow and Shadow stand out from the rest.
 
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the only thing Loz18 had was that he saw the demo build for Smash Ultimate during e3 before everyone. Everything else he has said he's got no proof
Of course he has no proof.

BUT if Skull Kid is actually revealed next, then it lines up with his story.




Unless Nintendo basically btfo's Loz as the next reveal, Skull Kid feels all but confirmed at this point.
 

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“I don’t like _______ the leaker because he’s immature!”

Yeah, unlike the classy and mature people who stab their coworkers in the back, risk their career, and violate contracts for internet points.
Did we all suddenly forget about "MOTHER****** LEAKER"?
That was the definition of immature back when Smash 4 leaked.
 
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If Isaac ain't gonna be in this Smash Ultimate, than Eminem will destroy MGK with his response, Logan Paul will change to be a better person and world peace will be found. Hell, I'll do Ursula's side quest in Xenoblade 2 TWICE. Let's just raise ALL the stakes in the world.

I'd even say that GOTHITELLE will be in Smash if Isaac isn't.

RIP to Eminem's career btw
 
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Wait unill you learn that he's very unique due to his Djinns. Then you will instantly rate him 9 or 10/10

Seriously, try Golden Sun. I'm sure you will enjoy it immensely.
With Djinn and Earth psynergy Isaac has the potential to be the most unique fighter in the game.
 
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I just look at leaks, real or not, cause I find leak culture fun. It's not that complicated.
 

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I will say, if Karate Joe is in as some "leaks" have been saying, this better be his them music. Lyrics and all.

 

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Of course he has no proof.

BUT if Skull Kid is actually revealed next, then it lines up with his story.




Unless Nintendo basically btfo's Loz as the next reveal, Skull Kid feels all but confirmed at this point.
The only character that was all but confirmed beforehand was Inklings, and even then they were in the earliest of early speculation talks because the game wasn't even revealed at that point.

Skull Kid definitely has evidence in his favor, but I wouldn't say he's basically guaranteed.
 

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I will say, if Karate Joe is in as some "leaks" have been saying, this better be his them music. Lyrics and all.

Even though Karate Joe isn't on my top list of Smash reps I know this song would make an absolutely fantastic BGM for a reveal trailer.
 

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Of course he has no proof.

BUT if Skull Kid is actually revealed next, then it lines up with his story.




Unless Nintendo basically btfo's Loz as the next reveal, Skull Kid feels all but confirmed at this point.
He won't be the next reveal like I'm willing to delete my account if's he is right. but he won't be Loz18 is a bull****ter and is just piggybacking the chairs theory
 

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So to boil down my theory:


IF Skull Kid is in the next Direct


This implies, if he's legit, that Loz handles some form of 'translation' on Direct scripts in regards to Smash. This would explain several oddities he's said in the past.

This would ALSO explain why he disagrees soo passionately with Vergeben, because he has no actual knowledge of Vergeben's choices being in the game. If he doesn't have the last script yet, he would have no idea how Vergeben came to his character choices.



I think Loz is full of it, but at the same time, if it really is Skull Kid after a solid month and a half screaming at the top of his lungs that Skull Kid's in, regrettably, he deserves being taken for more than granted.
 

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So to boil down my theory:


IF Skull Kid is in the next Direct


This implies, if he's legit, that Loz handles some form of 'translation' on Direct scripts in regards to Smash. This would explain several oddities he's said in the past.

This would ALSO explain why he disagrees soo passionately with Vergeben, because he has no actual knowledge of Vergeben's choices being in the game. If he doesn't have the last script yet, he would have no idea how Vergeben came to his character choices.



I think Loz is full of it, but at the same time, if it really is Skull Kid after a solid month and a half screaming at the top of his lungs that Skull Kid's in, regrettably, he deserves being taken for more than granted.
And if SK ISN’T revealed in the next Direct?
 

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I thought loz leaked Skull Kid and then people noticed the chairs + couch seemed to reference him.


Sorry if I'm wrong; hard to keep up with this stuff.
now i think it was on the 12th of August he made the post about Skull Kid being a newcomer. correct me if i'm wrong anyone
 

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Loz18 hinted at skull kid and isaac being playable, so why would he say isaac is not playable now?
 

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A Boshi invasion? Without me? I don't believe you!!!
But my dad works at Nintendo and.. :(

Speaking of Rhythm Heaven, I think that Chorus Kids would be so much fun and hilarious, but I want a RH character so bad now that I wouldn't even mind at all if it is Karate Joe.
 

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Loz18 hinted at skull kid and isaac being playable, so why would he say isaac is not playable now?
He didn't say he wasn't playable, just that he wasn't the reveal, nor Geno, Shantae, a Pokémon, or Tekken.

seems fake though because loz usually has a LoZ / Skull Kid pic, not samus.

but yeah he has said he didn't know about Isaac previously...and on his twitter he seemed to hint at an announcement at 10 AM EST tomorrow.
 
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