Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[osby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-dQHOYoaE

If Rob received a trailer it would have been about how he the first gyromite ever spun split the red sea

jokes aside imagine if they made CG trailers for every single character. who would be the coolest to see? I think Captain Falcon!

Jigglypuff. I want to see how they'll make it interesting.

 

[DarkFalcon]

XC2 Torna DLC is releasing in a few days. Since I highly doubt we're getting a XC2 character in the base game I wonder if Sakurai will pull from the Torna expansion once he starts doing DLC for Ultimate (which I assume is 100% happening). With some of the short footage we've got there's more to pull from for Mythra now. It'd be neat if Sakurai mixed the gameplay styles for both XC2 and the Torna DLC and we had a Rex and Pyra/Mythra swapping thing going on.

 

[osby]

It's crazy that Saki has yet to be shown as an Assist Trophy yet. He's one of the few with perfect Attendance. He and Shadow missing is pretty damn suspicious. They were more than happy to disconfirm Waluigi and Lyn. It seems weird to me that Saki is missing. He was pretty popular during Brawl speculation, and so was Simon. So, maybe he's playable?

Careful, Ashley was in a similar situation, even if she debuted in Smash For.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

This will be forever the worst part about Pac-Man being in Smash

i hate how much you're right.

 

[Hinata]

Careful, Ashley was in a similar situation, even if she debuted in Smash For.

Still hurts.

 

[Abha]

This will be forever the worst part about Pac-Man being in Smash

Does that mean this is the best part about Pac-Man being in Smash?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmGU5yMf4eo

 

[Cutie Gwen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-dQHOYoaE

If Rob received a trailer it would have been about how he the first gyromite ever spun split the red sea

jokes aside imagine if they made CG trailers for every single character. who would be the coolest to see? I think Captain Falcon!

Sonic, obviously. Imagine how that would have happened, suddenly, a new video on the Dojo or whatever with Mario beating up some characters and feeling proud of him, then we hear some tisks and then who do we see? The blue blur, Sonic the Hedgehog, Mario's classic rival in the 90's. That would be ****ing amazing

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Welp I got an idea:

Instead of Triple Finish for Pokemon Trainer, why not do something that involves at least one legendary Pokémon from each generation perform a Hyper Beam attack? Hitbox and percentage would remain despite the pokemon differences

In my head, the perfect representation of a Gen 1 Pokemon Trainer Final Smash would be sending out Mewtwo but we all know that can't happen.

 

[ZephyrZ]

For Sun & Moon, since I noticed trainers carry very few pokemon with them, I did a Nuzlocke run where I could only have 2 Pokemon until after the 1st Island was dealt with, only 2 Pokemon until after Kiawe's trial was completed, and then a max of 4 Pokemon that could be used after clearing Island 2. That way it scaled a bit better and I could only carry a maximum of 4 pokemon, chosen via Nuzlocke, at once (extras waited in the PC until they were inevitably needed). II thought it would be a decent challenge, but I ended up picking up a Magnemite at the School yard and it takes a long time for the game to be able to counter a Steel/Electric type.

Did you remember to turn off the Exp.Share, or was Magnemite just that good? SM has a few decently challenging bits early on, and if you don't use the Exp.Share, then enemies get pretty overleveled late game.

Anyway, trainers generally having only one or two pokemon is probably one of my biggest gripes with SM, and I say that as a huge fan of those games. It kind of takes away from the way z-moves are balanced. Not to mention how a Z-move's animation stops being fun to watch after you've used it like a million times already. On the other hand, wild pokemon are higher levels then they would be in previous games and the SOS system means that they can get pretty dangerous, especially if you're unable to bring them down fast enough or can't run away.

As far as using fewer pokemon is concerned though, I think there is an NPC in BW who suggests using a team of only three pokemon through the entire game, making they point that using fewer pokemon will mean that the experience gained won't be spread as thin. So it's funny how that's an actual valid strategy suggested by a previous game itself.

 

[KMDP]

This is a world where lemonade costs 300 bucks. Though there's free healthcare so I say it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

Well, the currency in Pokémon is based on Yen. So P300 is more like $2.70 (£2.00, €2.30 and $3.55 Canadian).

As an aside, assuming a single Pokédollar is equal to a Yen, TM15 (Hyper Beam) is worth:

RBY: $9,900​

GSC: $13,500 [Hyper Beam is worth 7,500 Coins, a single coin is worth P200; basically, 7,500 Coins is worth P1,500,000]​

Gen III & IV: $67.50​

BW & XY: £810​

ORAS and Gen VII: $450​

Porygon is worth ~$18000.

 

[osby]

Sonic, obviously. Imagine how that would have happened, suddenly, a new video on the Dojo or whatever with Mario beating up some characters and feeling proud of him, then we hear some tisks and then who do we see? The blue blur, Sonic the Hedgehog, Mario's classic rival in the 90's. That would be ****ing amazing

Am I the only one who wants to see Sonic and Mario teaming up instead of duking it out? They both save people.

 

[Q-Long]

Sonic, obviously. Imagine how that would have happened, suddenly, a new video on the Dojo or whatever with Mario beating up some characters and feeling proud of him, then we hear some tisks and then who do we see? The blue blur, Sonic the Hedgehog, Mario's classic rival in the 90's. That would be ****ing amazing

The music would be great!

Jigglypuff. I want to see how they'll make it interesting.

Maybe a singing contest, but I'm not sure with who lol

Or something cute with Kirby lol

 

[Idon]

Am I the only one who wants to see Sonic and Mario teaming up instead of duking it out? They both save people.

I would imagine most videogame heroes save people.

They wouldn't be much of a hero if they didn't eh?

 

[Drakonix]

Jigglypuff. I want to see how they'll make it interesting.

Maybe they would do something like this.

A big battle is happening, then slowly you can hear Jigglypuffs song grow louder. The fighters fall asleep then jiggs gets super pissed just like in the Pokemon anime. Thats all i got

 

[Llort A. Ton]

Perhaps the real Pokemon were the friends we made along the way.

...

Anyways, people are tired of hearing this but I just want Nintendo to drop the direct date already. I have no problem waiting until Thursday or Friday, but id like to at least KNOW its gonna be Thursday or Friday, yaknow? Its like being right next to the lightswitch in a pitch dark room. Ol Spidey is keepin me busy in my down time, and Hat in Time DLC is this week, but it is definitlry time for some more Smash hype.

 

[osby]

You guys are hopeless. Puff doesn't need a punny CGI trailer to be interesting or fabulous.

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Any Leaks??

 

[kylexv]

Looks like we're probably getting the direct Thursday, seeing as Nintendo hasn't said anything today and it's already Tuesday in Japan. That's why I made sure not to plan anything then lol.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Lol you guys are really starving aren't you?

 

[Taco Cruise]

My hype is deflating more and more every hour, let's talk about something that we haven't discussed in a while - game development timeline.

Hear me out - Melee had 14 newcomers, many of which were clones. There wasn't a ton of time in between 64 and Melee.
Brawl had a ton of newcomers but also had a huge story mode. The story mode limited the number of characters they added (but not by much at all)
Smash 4 had two systems to build for, so it limited the single player significantly.

Smash Ultimate as of now has no official story mode, just one heavily hinted at, and is only going to be for the Switch and not a handheld like 4. What if anything could hold Ultimate back where it doesn't have the most newcomers in any game in the series? Balancing issues? A story mode exactly like Brawl in size? Every mode returning like Board the Platforms and Smash Run? This game has been in development since 2015 and has had a lot of time, what super crazy addition are they planning for this game?

 

[Drakonix]

You guys are hopeless. Puff doesn't need a punny CGI trailer to be interesting or fabulous.

Aw... But i love terrible puns.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

It's crazy that Saki has yet to be shown as an Assist Trophy yet. He's one of the few with perfect Attendance. He and Shadow missing is pretty damn suspicious. They were more than happy to disconfirm Waluigi and Lyn. It seems weird to me that Saki is missing. He was pretty popular during Brawl speculation, and so was Simon. So, maybe he's playable?

I don't think his absence is any more suspicious than the absence of Devil, Kat & Ana, Infantry & Tanks, or Lakitu.

 

[Deleted member]

Man, not even Kingdom Hearts fans are this thirsty, and that's saying something.

 

[Icedragonadam]

So is this board still insane?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Man, not even Kingdom Hearts fans are this thirsty, and that's saying something.

Smash is probably one of the biggest gaming franchises tbh though. It's no surprise really.

 

[staindgrey]

Am I the only one who wants to see Sonic and Mario teaming up instead of duking it out? They both save people.

They're just so different in terms of gameplay.

Welp I got an idea:

Instead of Triple Finish for Pokemon Trainer, why not do something that involves at least one legendary Pokémon from each generation perform a Hyper Beam attack? Hitbox and percentage would remain despite the pokemon differences

Or just let Charizard go Mega and wreck ****.

 

[Idon]

Man, not even Kingdom Hearts fans are this thirsty, and that's saying something.

Au contrair

You clearly haven't seen the Kingdom Hearts subreddit

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Man, not even Kingdom Hearts fans are this thirsty, and that's saying something.

To be fair, at least Kingdom Hearts probably doesn't have events, where a new trailer is going to be shown off, delayed.

 

[Koopaul]

Perhaps the real Pokemon were the friends we made along the way.

...

Anyways, people are tired of hearing this but I just want Nintendo to drop the direct date already. I have no problem waiting until Thursday or Friday, but id like to at least KNOW its gonna be Thursday or Friday, yaknow? Its like being right next to the lightswitch in a pitch dark room. Ol Spidey is keepin me busy in my down time, and Hat in Time DLC is this week, but it is definitlry time for some more Smash hype.

Even if it's next week it would be nice to know it was next week. I think Nintendo should at least tell us when it's been delayed to. Then we can properly wait for it.

 

[staindgrey]

To be fair, at least Kingdom Hearts probably doesn't have events, where a new trailer is going to be shown off, delayed.

Nah, they just have the same exact trailer played three times in the same E3.

 

[Deleted member]

In my head, the perfect representation of a Gen 1 Pokemon Trainer Final Smash would be sending out Mewtwo but we all know that can't happen.

I think it would be pretty cool as a Final Smash if he sent out a Mega Blastoise, Mega Venusaur, and Mega Charizard X to use the combined triple attack, showing off that he's been taking it easy on people by using a Squirtle and Ivysaur instead of his Blastoise & Venusaur to go with his Charizard. He's only showing 3 guys; we've got no idea what his other 3 are...

 

[Q-Long]

You guys are hopeless. Puff doesn't need a punny CGI trailer to be interesting or fabulous.

hey, knowing sakurai you just know the trailer will end with jpuff resting someone

 

[Michael the Spikester]

You guys aren't in Japan right now. There's still probably lots of cleaning up and searching for missing people as well as people mourning their losses and attending funerals you know. This ain't something they can do in just a day. Be more respectful.

If this must take a month so be it. Lives are more important and there's likely still victims on life support fighting to stay alive.

My prayers are still out to everyone over there in Japan.

 

[Mutsukki]

Smash Ultimate as of now has no official story mode, just one heavily hinted at, and is only going to be for the Switch and not a handheld like 4. What if anything could hold Ultimate back where it doesn't have the most newcomers in any game in the series? Balancing issues? A story mode exactly like Brawl in size? Every mode returning like Board the Platforms and Smash Run? This game has been in development since 2015 and has had a lot of time, what super crazy addition are they planning for this game?

Every character coming back

Exactly as Sakurai stated.

Also 103 Stages

 

[osby]

My hype is deflating more and more every hour, let's talk about something that we haven't discussed in a while - game development timeline.

Hear me out - Melee had 14 newcomers, many of which were clones. There wasn't a ton of time in between 64 and Melee.
Brawl had a ton of newcomers but also had a huge story mode. The story mode limited the number of characters they added (but not by much at all)
Smash 4 had two systems to build for, so it limited the single player significantly.

Smash Ultimate as of now has no official story mode, just one heavily hinted at, and is only going to be for the Switch and not a handheld like 4. What if anything could hold Ultimate back where it doesn't have the most newcomers in any game in the series? Balancing issues? A story mode exactly like Brawl in size? Every mode returning like Board the Platforms and Smash Run? This game has been in development since 2015 and has had a lot of time, what super crazy addition are they planning for this game?

It has over seventy characters. If i isn't a crazy addition, I don't know what is.

 

[Deleted member]

Smash is probably one of the biggest gaming franchises tbh though. It's no surprise really.

Right, but people have been waiting for Kingdom Hearts 3 for at this point more than 10 years. And we're waiting for Smash Ultimate in less than 3 months right? Literally a week is nothing lol

To be fair, at least Kingdom Hearts probably doesn't have events, where a new trailer is going to be shown off, delayed.

It does have events and trailers and the game was delayed from 2018 to 2019.

 

[Just a random scrub]

Welp, considering my girlfriend's out of town and I have a week off from my job, I don't have much else to do but wait for the direct, especially since it's raining real hard where I am right now. The new Spider Man game has helped a bit, though. Bad time to use my vacation days

Anyways, a while back, I made a roster for the hypothetical Smash reboot that was considered, and I figure I might as well share my reboot roster here, since it would kill a few minutes of time.

The total roster is composed of 30 characters. It was SO HARD choosing just 30. While some franchises definitely got more than others, I had to make some really painful cuts so that the roster remained diverse (the only franchises that got more than 2 characters were Mario and Pokemon).

All in all, I tried to make a roster that would best reflect the history and legacy of Nintendo both in the modern age and in the past. This roster is basically a book of Nintendo's history, with plenty of franchises both old and new represented. (This also means I couldn't include 3rd parties. Which sucks a lot.) Has anybody else come up with reboot rosters?

 

[osby]

I think it would be pretty cool as a Final Smash if he sent out a Mega Blastoise, Mega Venusaur, and Mega Charizard X to use the combined triple attack, showing off that he's been taking it easy on people by using a Squirtle and Ivysaur instead of his Blastoise & Venusaur to go with his Charizard. He's only showing 3 guys; we've got no idea what his other 3 are...

Afaik, he has only three mons.

 

[DevaAshera]

Nah, they just have the same exact trailer played three times in the same E3.

Not the exact same..each one had a few important differences.

 

[Mutsukki]

To be fair, at least Kingdom Hearts probably doesn't have events, where a new trailer is going to be shown off, delayed.

Honestly neither do we, we're just assuming there was going to be Smash there.

Right, but people have been waiting for Kingdom Hearts 3 for at this point more than 10 years. And we're waiting for Smash Ultimate in less than 3 months right? Literally a week is nothing lol

To be fair, a long time waiting makes this year more bearable till January, we've been waiting for so long that half a year isn't that big of a deal

Smash is so close since we've known it actually existed in the first place that it makes us thirst for more and more