Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pakky]

Honest thoughts and or reactions if Banjo and Sora or announced in the same direct.

Same for Isaac and or Geno.

Banjo- GODDAMN I KNEW IT!

Sora- Nothing until sanctuary starts playing and then I get caught up in my feelings like with

Geno- FOREST MAZZZZZZZZE THO!!!!

Isaac- Well met, good show, very good show.

 

[mynameisBlade]

Sakurai looks brainwashed here.

K. Rool's krown has a Mind Slug inside of it.

 

[THE 6r]

Honest thoughts and or reactions if Banjo and Sora or announced in the same direct.

Same for Isaac and or Geno.

Banjo: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sora: *Hears "Dearly Beloved" and starts weeping tears of joy*
Isaac: MY BOY!!
Geno: FINALLY

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I bet I have missed nothing

 

[T-Hell]

I saw something in this thread about the music related section of the Smash Bros. page, like someone finding out that Mario would be the next franchise to represent. Can't really pinpoint where I can find it, though.

How is the weekly music related to the next newcomer revealed? Is there a connection theory or something?

 

[Deleted member]

I bet I have missed nothing

There's never anything to miss

 

[Nethermoosen]

Banjo- GODDAMN I KNEW IT!

Sora- Nothing until sanctuary starts playing and then I get caught up in my feelings like with

Geno- FOREST MAZZZZZZZZE THO!!!!

Isaac- Well met, good show, very good show.

“wonk uoy naht noitceffa erom deen I”

 

[Deleted member]

Also, as a side note--do you have a folder loaded with Scott pics? If so, I admire your commitment to being a stalker.

Listen, I stand PROUD with a whopping 45 various and unique reactions of Scott, you bet I do! NONE of y'all are stoppin' me!

 

[Dee Dude]

I’d be EXTREMELY hyped for both Banjo and Sora announced at the same time!

Just a reminder, we’ll know the full base roster before release right?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Speaking of FNAF (At least before I went out and took a 5k walk) I just saw an add on Facebook for that new TMNT show and it had a FNAF reference in it

An animatronic bear that attacks customers at a pizza place

 

[THE 6r]

I’d be EXTREMELY hyped for both Banjo and Sora announced at the same time!

Just a reminder, we’ll know the full base roster before release right?

yes

 

[staindgrey]

I don't get how those two would correlate at all tbh.

I do expect for the online announcement to be a "big thing" but I don't see a "New" series game being a part of it. Like I said, ethier it's a sort of new creative game, F-Zero, or a new IP. I don't think they'll rehash certain things this time. Then again... I do kinda expect it to be mostly about Smash if they do happen to not have anything

Correct me if I'm wrong-- I very well could be-- but haven't the NSMB games refused to allow online multiplayer despite seeming perfect for such a concept?

Maybe they're finally putting that in and coupling the announcement with their paid online service.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I’d be EXTREMELY hyped for both Banjo and Sora announced at the same time!

Just a reminder, we’ll know the full base roster before release right?

Yup. Nobody will remain secret upon release

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yup. Nobody will remain secret upon release

Honestly this is for the best, because the characters who were surprises kinda just lost that going for them, especially post 3DS release. It also means the CG trailers will be that much better imo

 

[ReeseBalaski]

Yup. Nobody will remain secret upon release

Which is another thing I really enjoy. More often than not, the characters that are supposed to be "surprises", end up getting leaked early anyway through people having early copies or whatnot.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Pakky, you DASTARD!

Darn you, darn you to heck!

I'll send you to the next dimension! You'll go right to HFIL.

Hope you packed a parachute, because unfortunately it's not Sunday.

...Wait, what were we talking about again?

As long you don't use the word

Spoiler

inevitable

, that's a real dirty one.

Or commit enough tax fraud.

Direct Thursday--WOO!
New Super Mario Bros. Deluxe--ohhhh.

At least this rumor would give me a heads up of my disappointment, whereas Captain Toad disappointment caught me by surprise last Direct.

It's okay Super Mario 3D World... it's not your time. Perhaps they're working on a sequel and getting all the dumb ports out of the way. I say to myself so I can sleep at night.

Smash related, this kinda goes to supporting Mimique's predictions. If Isaac's revealed, Imma flip out.

Edited: Because rumors aren't leaks, and all of y'all bad habits are rubbing off on me.

I still think SM3D World will get a port eventually, we're still early into the Switch's life cycle.

Just a reminder, we’ll know the full base roster before release right?

Yes, Sakurai said all the designs would be revealed.

Honestly this is for the best, because the characters who were surprises kinda just lost that going for them, especially post 3DS release. It also means the CG trailers will be that much better imo

Not to mention that for people like me who have a hard time avoiding spoilers for things in general, it's an extra boon.

 

[Deleted member]

We live in an era where there's no point in having secret characters. All it does is ask for them to get leaked and lose on potential marketing.

 

[ReeseBalaski]

Pakky, you DASTARD!

Darn you, darn you to heck!

I'll send you to the next dimension! You'll go right to HFIL.

Hope you packed a parachute, because unfortunately it's not Sunday.

...Wait, what were we talking about again?

What in tarnation.

Watch your heckin mouth, consarn it.

 

[BrytonJ]

Honestly I'd kind of love a NSMB Deluxe. Genuinely I think those games are really good just, yknow, kind of samey.

Plus if 2D Mario can keep going maybe 2D Zelda can ahahahahaha please please don't let it die ahahahaha.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Honestly this is for the best, because the characters who were surprises kinda just lost that going for them, especially post 3DS release. It also means the CG trailers will be that much better imo

And besides getting to see your favorite characters in a trailer, the post release trailers were pretty lame/pointless. I already know Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr. are in the game so what is this telling me? Thought they were pretty strange honestly.

 

[Nethermoosen]

We live in an era where there's no point in having secret characters. All it does is ask for them to get leaked and lose on potential marketing.

Back in my day we had to leave the GameCube on for a full 24 hours before we realized Mewtwo was a playable character.

 

[Dee Dude]

Honestly this is for the best, because the characters who were surprises kinda just lost that going for them, especially post 3DS release. It also means the CG trailers will be that much better imo

Besides, this is modern time we’re currently living in.

Unless you wanna stray away from the internet, it’s inevitable the suprises will be either be ruined by leaks or Youtube thumbnails.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What in tarnation.

Watch your heckin mouth, consarn it.

You are like a baby, watch this:

F R I C K

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I still think SM3D World will get a port eventually, we're still early into the Switch's life cycle.




Not to mention that for people like me who have a hard time avoiding spoilers for things in general, it's an extra boon.

Plot to Super Mario Sunshine 2 leaked

Also I need Wonderful 101 and Fatal Frame V ported to Switch too

 

[drag0nscythe]

I speculate only three more unique newcomers left.

If we get a direct this month for the online, then i see one character being announced. Then we could have another 50 facts in November around the middle of the month.


Show off the last two remaining unique characters. And detail all missing info. Also ser up the season pass for new characters like they did with mewtwo.

Hmm. Guess i should make a fake leak. Seems plauable.

 

[CosmicQuark]

As long you don't use the word

Spoiler

inevitable

, that's a real dirty one.



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I still think SM3D World will get a port eventually, we're still early into the Switch's life cycle.



Yes, Sakurai said all the designs would be revealed.



Not to mention that for people like me who have a hard time avoiding spoilers for things in general, it's an extra boon.

I hope so. Smash 4, Super Mario 3D World and Mario Maker were the best games on the Wii U. We're getting Smash, we need the other two on Switch ASAP. I just can't see why they would do a New Super Mario Bros Deluxe. What could they add? Peach and Blue Toad replacing the toads, characters having unique abilities, better level design, perfect mixture between 2D and 3D Mario? Oh wait, that *is* Super Mario 3D World.

Also, I am so glad every character is being revealed prior to release this time. This wait has been excruciating, and it's been a much shorter hype cycle than usual.

 

[Ace C.R.O.S.S.]

Honest thoughts and or reactions if Banjo and Sora or announced in the same direct.

Same for Isaac and or Geno.

Banjo - Well, this is disappointing...
Sora - MY ####ING GOD, THEY REALLY DID IT!!!
Isaac - At least his fans will be very happy
Geno - I'm OK with this...

 

[Mc.Rad]

Correct me if I'm wrong-- I very well could be-- but haven't the NSMB games refused to allow online multiplayer despite seeming perfect for such a concept?

Maybe they're finally putting that in and coupling the announcement with their paid online service.

Yeah but... that would've been nice on the Wii U... also I think they're trying to move away from those games nowadays...

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I hope so. Smash 4, Super Mario 3D World and Mario Maker were the best games on the Wii U. We're getting Smash, we need the other two on Switch ASAP. I just can't see why they would do a New Super Mario Bros Deluxe. What could they add? Peach and Blue Toad replacing the toads, characters having unique abilities, better level design, perfect mixture between 2D and 3D Mario? Oh wait, that *is* Super Mario 3D World.

Also, I am so glad every character is being revealed prior to release this time. This wait has been excruciating, and it's been a much shorter hype cycle than usual.

I'm mostly interested in NSMBU for Super Luigi U anyway.

That said, here's to hoping the wait between directs gets increasingly shorter!

 

[T-Hell]

I don't really want another 50 fact extravaganzza kind of thing. I'd rather have Sakurai calmly showing and explaining the stuff, tbh.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

IM ****ING BORED

So I am going to personally analyze the likeliness of characters usually talked about. I'm about to ramble off a bunch of stuff people probably already know!

Ken&Isabelle: Disregarding their individual merits I'm one of those who actually believe Vergeben so I see them as more likely than the rest. Despite that, Ken would be an extremely easy echo to pull off and one which I think would generate a decent amount of hype/buzz, he would be however another echo pick that seems to ignore ballot results, and is not based on fan request (a Richter if you will). On the flip side Isabelle is a character with a lot of fan request, good ballot results, is a first party rep AND is an easy echo to do so I'd be surprised if she didn't show up, even if she hadn't been leaked.

Geno: One of the imaginary big three, everyone and their mother seems to think he's a lock. I certainly think he's highly likely but not just because of his speculation legacy. He did well on the ballet, seemed to get special treatment with his skin in Sm4sh, and Sakurai himself has expressed via interview his desire to put Geno in. This doesn't give him a lock though and the Agnes incident proved that. There are a lot of other Square Enix characters who would make sense (some would even say more sense than Geno) to be added. And no I don't mean Sora because apparently he's at least partially owned by Disney. Octo Path getting a rep to forward a new Square IP or Chrono Trigger to rep a Square title with a bit more legacy OR a Dragon Quest rep for the Japan audience would all likely be what speculators would be talking about if it weren't for this wooden doll from an niece nintendo title. But he isn't just blocking out Square reps, other Mario reps are also taking a back seat to Geno, speaking of which:

Paper Mario: I've said it before but if PM could be an echo he would have been a lock without a doubt. He's from a unique series which lacks no popularity and I'm sure Sakurai could do wonders with a 2D papercentric moveset. He, however, really cant be an echo, and thus it puts him in competition with Geno. Personally, I think PM makes more sense as the next Mario rep, it's not like he was lacked ballot support, but Geno just edges him out with the feverish support from the hardcore Smash fans.

Skull Kid: Another assumed lock though but one whose supporters have had their confidence shaken recently. Yes he doesn't show up in the moon AT. Yes we haven't seen YL's final smash (and for those saying YL isn't related to Skull Kid due to him being Ocarina of Time YL, OOT YL and Majora's Mask YL are the same character). Yes he had a mii skin. Yes he was big on the ballot. and yes, the chairs are clearly a clever hint by Sakurai for his inclusion./s But all this makes him just as likely to be a Boss as a character. He may be small but if I can easily imagine a boss fight in which Skull Kid constantly teleports around and screws with the stage before turning into Majora, then I'm sure Sakurai could think of something too. I'm not saying I don't want the character in, but my confidence in his inclusion is weaker since the boss idea krept into my head. I definitely think he's in the game to some capacity, but I'm readying myself for the other shoe to drop

Isaac: A missing AT with years of support and good ballot results. How much better odds can you have. Wait, where have a heard that one before.? In all seriousness I think what the fate of the likes of Ashly and Krystal has shown is AT status and being popular on the ballot simply isn't enough to be guaranteed a spot. Was he considered? Of course, but only Sakurai knows the true ballot results and only he can decide what's worth bringing in. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in, I also wouldn't be surprised if he was still an AT.

Bandanna Dee: I actually see his situation as even grimmer than Isaac. He's never even been mentioned/referenced in Smash (unless I'm forgetting his inclusion as a trophy.) And as others have stated, Sakurai seems to avoid Kirby elements he himself didn't create. The most he has going for him is being popular on polls/ballots (and again, we've already seen that isn't necessarily enough), and being missing from a Final Smash. I'm not holding my breathe, but I'd be happy for his supporters if he made it.

Incineroar: Like I said I believe Verg, but Verg never said Incineroar is in, he simply believed him likely. If the pokemon Verg said weren't in really aren't in, Incineroar really is the most likely gen 7 after them.

Gardevoir: Hey she's been a popular pick for years, but I'm not exactly sure if she had strong ballot showing. It'd be a major surprise but I don't put it past Sakurai. (just as long as she remains echoless...)

Rayman: He'd be great, but I personally don't think that Brawlhalla spot is doing him any favors. As far as I know he's been a popular ballot pick AND he did have that trophy meaning Sakurai has to be aware of his popularity, but if AT's have a hard time moving up the latter I imagine trophies must not have it much better.

Dante: A leak is a leak is a possibly fake leak. If it weren't for the leak, no way in hell. But, someone who has clearly leaked stuff about DMCV has claimed he's in. That's at least worth keeping an eye on, even if he's been denied by the producer.

Banjo: There's technically nothing stopping him from getting in but he suffers from Bandanna Dee syndrome, and at least Bandanna Dee is first party. If the Ultimate roster selection is as cut throat as I imagine it is, Banjo would certainly be considered, but I can't help but feel Sakurai would skip the headaches that apparently come with third parties

 

[Michele]

If we get a direct this month for the online, then i see one character being announced. Then we could have another 50 facts in November around the middle of the month.

No offense, but I really don't want or need a fact extravaganza. Just give us the details, informations, etc. Not facts.

We can find out the surprise ourselves.

 

[Iridium]

So, did I miss anything?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

So, did I miss anything?

Nothing much aside from word on the street saying there's a Direct on Thursday.

 

[ReeseBalaski]

So, did I miss anything?

Not really. Do you wanna fake swear at people like everyone else?

 

[Flynn__]

I'm thinking that if there's going to be more than 2-3 new characters (not counting echoes) they should be announcing a new one this month

 

[Iridium]

Nothing much aside from word on the street saying there's a Direct on Thursday.

This Thursday? Would Sakurai really announce a direct 2 days before the Direct? Maybe, but I'll be conservative and say no.

 

[MojoRobo]

This Thursday? Would Sakurai really announce a direct 2 days before the Direct? Maybe, but I'll be conservative and say no.

As in a general direct, not a smash one

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I’d prefer for it to be next Thursday, for...reasons

DO NOT LOOK AT MY AVATAR ELMA TOTALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. NOPE. NOT AT ALL...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If the trend is to be believed I really don't think we'll be getting Dante or Monster Hunter. Echos not counting.

Capcom: Mega Man, Ryu
Konami: Simon, Snake
Namco: Pac-Man, Agumon, Lloyd, Heihachi or Nightmare
Sega: Bayonetta, Sonic
Square Enix: Cloud, Geno

 

[Iridium]

As in a general direct, not a smash one

That makes more sense, but it doesn't really change my mind. Would be nice, though.

Not really. Do you wanna fake swear at people like everyone else?

Do I really want to know?