Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Chandeelure]

You know what is a good topic?

Kirby newcomers.

 

[PSIguy89]

You mean like parasol waddle Dee?

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

You know what is a good topic?

Kirby newcomers.

Poppy Bros. Jr. is objectively the best candidate for a new Kirby rep and you know it.

 

[N3ON]

You know what is a good topic?

Kirby newcomers.

If we don't get Bandana Dee, we won't get anyone.

And we probs won't get Bandana Dee.

 

[NintenRob]

If/WHEN Bandana Waddle Dee gets in Smash.

I'd like to see him use some of the new Stick ability moves with his spear. Slinging himself with his spear and throwing it above him where it spins.

It's looks like an ability to fill in the gaps to his moves without giving him another weapon.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

How about this for a Final Smash?

 

[NintenRob]

Uhhh, I'll say this here too I guess

I picture a cut scene Final Smash where he calls on the helpers to help beat down his opponent .

 

[Deleted member]

I still think Megaton Punch is the perfect choice for Bandana Dee's Final Smash.
Remember, that was where he made his debut.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I still think Megaton Punch is the perfect choice for Bandana Dee's Final Smash.
Remember, that was where he made his debut.

Imagine the One Punch Dee memes.

 

[Deleted member]

Imagine the One Punch Dee memes.

Deed I do it right?

 

[PsychoJosh]

On the other hand, this is definitely true for Krystal and especially Gardevoir. Not the only reason they're popular, of course.

Gardevoir is humanoid, bipedal, and doesn't resemble any known animal. Not furry by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Deleted member]

Can we please just drop the furry discussion already?

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

The winner was Decidueye, and the other starters didn't do too bad either. Thing is, I did notice that more seem to be as vocal about Primarina as Incineroar. And Crabrawler, expect it to evolve into a Crabominable later due to loss.

Next up are more Gen 7 Pokemon, half of these are mysticals for obvious reasons and a certain Pikachu lookalike. Your picks are Magearna, Tapu Koko, Mimikyu, and Lycanroc.

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And begin.

Although I'm personally in favour of Decidueye but wouldn't object to any other potential character, I'd say Mimikyu might probably be quite the surprise addition if Sakurai decided to make it the 'Playable Representative' of Sun and Moon for Smash Bros. It's got a lot of popularity thanks to it's backstory about wanting to be just as loved as Pikachu - could be able to pull from a good range of attacks, from say using it's stick for melee attacks to Fairy or Ghost type attacks for ranged attacks.

Heck, I was pondering early a special ability it could use would be it's Disguise ability - Kinda like a counter, Mimikyu could take one hit and shrug it off, but it's disguise breaks and needs time to recover before using it again - perhaps give Mimikyu a speed buff but slightly weaken it in exchange...? Either way, I'd have no problem with who we get for a Sun and Moon Pokémon. But Mimikyu would be a pretty surprising underdog pick, even if I'm inclined it's also fairly likely to be a Poké Ball assist.

Though even after what I've considered, I'm kinda leaning towards 'Maybe I wouldn't mind Mimikyu being added...'

 

[Deleted member]

You already know the real answer is furries. Same reason why Wolf is so popular.

Are you a furry yourself?
If this is a joke, try to be safe with them. That joke sounded so realistic. If not, well you are missing the case. Wolf was added because of his popularity in the Star Fox series, not because of "furries demanding him". Sakurai did not do it for the furries, they were too little of them and too little of importance too add a Wolf compared to the casual fans who liked Star Fox and would be excited to see him. Can you tell me if this is a joke or not?

Can we please not argue about furries, this is supposed to be a Smash speculation forum where things are kept civil. If you wanna argue about that go to 4chan. Now can we please get back to Smash Switch speculation. Thanks

I have to agree with you. Lets be civil here, I like it. The annoying arguments just annoy me outright.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh yeah, I voted for Lycanroc in the poll. I like the rock wolf, though I'd prefer Dusk Form or Midday because I really dislike the Midnight form.
Though we all know who's likely going to win.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

The midnight form is the only form that doesn't just run around on all fours.

 

[Deleted member]

The midnight form is the only form that doesn't just run around on all fours.

Which makes it all the more boring.
We don't have many quadruped fighters in Smash.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Which makes it all the more boring.
We don't have many quadruped fighters in Smash.

I think that's for good reason.

 

[Deleted member]

I think that's for good reason.

And what is that reason exactly?

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

They seem more like animals than people. I mean, it would be like kicking a dog.

Edit: Plus there's the issue of their limited attack animations. Although Lycanroc does have a tail, so it's not as bad as it could be.

 

[Deleted member]

They seem more like animals than people. I mean, it would be like kicking a dog.

It's almost like you can actually do that in Smash.

 

[NintenRob]

They seem more like animals than people. I mean, it would be like kicking a dog.

You mean this dog?

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Forgot about him. I don't play Sm4sh. Also I don't want him in the game.

 

[FunAtParties]

And what is that reason exactly?

'Cause they suck (jk). I don't hate quad fighters anymore (had to adjust my opinion because of my love for RoA), but I don't see why people act like they're some demographic that needs to be addressed. If anything we should get more characters without legs, that just float slightly above stage. Maybe ones that look like fancy lamps possessed by a ghost or something...

 

[Deleted member]

Also I don't want him in the game.

That adds nothing to your arguement. It's purely subjective.

'Cause they suck (jk). I don't hate quad fighters anymore (had to adjust my opinion because of my love for RoA), but I don't see why people act like they're some demographic that needs to be addressed.

I agree with you there, honestly.

If anything we should get more characters without legs, that just float slightly above stage.

You mean like Dark Ma-

Maybe ones that look like fancy lamps possessed by a ghost or something...

...I see you're a man of culture as well.

 

[Cosmic77]

Oh yeah, I voted for Lycanroc in the poll. I like the rock wolf, though I'd prefer Midnight or Midday because I really dislike the Midnight form.
Though we all know who's likely going to win.

I think you meant to say, "I'd prefer Dusk or Midday because I really dislike the Midnight form."



I like all three designs, and I can honestly say that I'd be fine with any of them in Smash (and I don't really care that much if we get another quadruped character). Though if I had to guess which one was more likely, I'd say Dusk form. Not just because of the anime, but also because Japan really seems to like that form.

They seem more like animals than people. I mean, it would be like kicking a dog.

Edit: Plus there's the issue of their limited attack animations. Although Lycanroc does have a tail, so it's not as bad as it could be.

It shouldn't be that hard to create some attacks for them. All three of them have claws and fangs. Add in a few simple rock-based moves for their aerials and you've got yourself a decent moveset for both bipeds and quads alike.

 

[Deleted member]

I think you meant to say, "I'd prefer Dusk or Midday because I really dislike the Midnight form."

Dang it, fixed.

 

[Deleted member]

You know what is a good topic?

Kirby newcomers.

You know a topic we don't speak enough of?

Xenoblade newcomers (or rather, all forms of Xenoblade representation).

 

[Chron]

I think Mimikyu is definitely a possibility. Didn't Jigglypuff get in 64 because of her popularity in the anime?
(Chandelure for Smash 5!)

 

[Cosmic77]

I think Mimikyu is definitely a possibility. Didn't Jigglypuff get in 64 because of her popularity in the anime?
(Chandelure for Smash 5!)

Jigglypuff got in mainly because Sakurai wanted another character who played similar to Kirby.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Jigglypuff got in mainly because Sakurai wanted another character who played similar to Kirby.

I thought it was more because Mewtwo was too hard to make in development but Jigglypuff(who did get in due to anime popularity) was vastly easier since it could be a Kirby clone to a degree, which made development easier. So both factors were relevant.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

You know what is a good topic?

Kirby newcomers.

Amusingly, I did go back to playing Kirby's Return to Dream Land last night. Other than the spear-wielding Bandanna Waddle Dee, I can't think of any other possible Kirby reps.

 

[Krysco]

Nah nah nah, Bandana Dee would actually take work. You want a 4th Kirby character? I got one that's easy to put in that looks bad*** and has a bad*** theme to go with him. The greatest and the most powerful (but not necessarily the strongest) warrior in the galaxy.

And that bit about him being the greatest and most powerful but not the strongest? That's actually from the Kirby wiki. Because nitpicking over a Kirby game is a thing. "Dark Meta Knight's pause description in Kirby: Triple Deluxe describes Dark Meta Knight as the "shadow of the strongest warrior", hinting that the title has been taken from Galacta Knight. However, it should be noted that Galacta Knight has been referred to as the greatest and the most powerful, not necessarily the strongest. "

In all seriousness though, I'd be totally down for Bandana Dee getting into Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

Galacta Knight's my favorite Kirby character so I'd be down for having him in Smash, but I'd be pretty disappointed if he was a full clone. I'd at least make him a semi clone since he has so many unique moves.
That said, Bandana Dee and Dark Matter come first.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Honestly, the best option I can think of for moveset potential beyond Bandanna Waddle Dee is Adeiline. Art-based attacks, the paintbrush, and could become quite creative ideally. Literally and figuratively speaking.

 

[UserKev]

Galacta Knight is boring to me. Just Meta Knight all over again. I much rather Knuckle Joe if not Bandana Dee. Why am I even commenting on this again?

Ghirahim for Smash.

 

[Opossum]

Galacta Knight is boring to me. Just Meta Knight all over again. I much rather Knuckle Joe if not Bandana Dee. Why am I even commenting on this again?

Ghirahim for Smash.

Not calling you out specifically, but I'll never understand some fans' fascination with Knuckle Joe in Smash. It's like wanting a Chargin' Chuck or a Lizalfos in Smash, IMO. Nothing wrong with that as far as wanting it, but when people bring him up as a serious contender it just confuses me.

 

[Deleted member]

Knuckle Joe? And people are complaining about Bandana Dee being a "generic enemy"? Really?
Even then, Kirby covers the majority of the fighter ability's moveset. I can't get behind it.

 

[Krysco]

Not calling you out specifically, but I'll never understand some fans' fascination with Knuckle Joe in Smash. It's like wanting a Chargin' Chuck or a Lizalfos in Smash, IMO. Nothing wrong with that as far as wanting it, but when people bring him up as a serious contender it just confuses me.

Gonna play Devil's Advocate here for the sake of discussion but isn't Bandana Dee hardly any different? He's literally just like any other of his species but he's got a pathetically easy 'boss fight', some minor dialogue in Meta Knight's Revenge and I can't even call him unique for being playable since Superstar allows many enemies to become playable, including Knuckle Joe. Oh, and he wears an extra piece of attire that others of his kind don't.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Gonna play Devil's Advocate here for the sake of discussion but isn't Bandana Dee hardly any different? He's literally just like any other of his species but he's got a pathetically easy 'boss fight', some minor dialogue in Meta Knight's Revenge and I can't even call him unique for being playable since Superstar allows many enemies to become playable, including Knuckle Joe. Oh, and he wears an extra piece of attire that others of his kind don't.

Bandana Dee is playable in games without the Helper gimmick though, like Return to Dream Land. I think he was around in Rainbow Curse too.