Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[DMTN]

The only boss that I now find worthy is a Silver Lynel, because they are the hardest characters to defeat in BotW (memetically more difficult than the final Ganon of the Calamity)

I would be completely okay with this. It's a shame that BotW came out a little too late, because a lot of its content could fit in Smash.

 

[Iridium]

*inspired to draw something, but held back by a program crash*

...Watch this space. (not literally this post)

Characters that would be able to beat King Dodongo.

Splat Bomb
Grenades


Bombs are a really rare Smash tool.

Oh yeah. I was stuck in TLOZ there. I would still do this though.

 

[Over9000BPM]

*inspired to draw something, but held back by a program crash*

...Watch this space. (not literally this post)

Characters that would be able to beat King Dodongo.

Splat Bomb
Grenades


Bombs are a really rare Smash tool.

Peach/Daisy can occasionally get a Bob-omb with Down-B :D

 

[UserKev]

I'm gonna need you to expand on that one mate

As I said to Napoleon, why should Skull Kid be a boss, really? If you can write one sentence, you win. If you can't, that's exactly my point.

...this isn't a defending argument. It isnt a thesis. It's not even an opinion.
Shall this be taken to mean you cannot back up your claim?

And this response only makes my point all the more exactly. Skull Kid is a long since requested character. Not as a *** boss.

No hate against you tho.

 

[Untouch]

I could also see Majora's Wrath as a boss, but skull kid floating around would be a pain in the ass to fight for some characters (like little mac for example).

 

[Freduardo]

People, people, the best candidate for Zelda boss and the best candidate for Zelda player are one and the same.

It’s Vaati.

But biases aside, Majora or Zant would probably make a good Zelda boss.

 

[Michele]

Page 3750 now. This is becoming an count to 1,000,000 thread.

Anyways, is there any recent leaks? I feel like I'm back...to this drought...of the Smash 4....

 

[Over9000BPM]

I would be completely okay with this. It's a shame that BotW came out a little too late, because a lot of its content could fit in Smash.

I know that feel *gazes longingly at Samus Returns*

 

[Omega Tyrant]

I didn't realize that you can only damage Dracula by attacking his head. Just making sure, was that confirmed through Sakurai or was that a mechanic only present in Castlevania?

It's a staple in the Classicvania games since the first that Dracula can only be harmed by hitting his head, and it can be seen in the direct, where attacks that didn't hit his head went through him with some mist effect, while those had a damage visual were those that hit his head.

 

[Freduardo]

*inspired to draw something, but held back by a program crash*

...Watch this space. (not literally this post)

Characters that would be able to beat King Dodongo.

Splat Bomb
Grenades


Bombs are a really rare Smash tool.

What about sheik’s explodey bomb? The firework like one she got in 4?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Peach/Daisy can occasionally get a Bob-omb with Down-B :D

The odds of that happening aren't likely though, so it hardly counts.

 

[Untouch]

Also the moon being an AT doesn't really change anything, Riki was an AT and was a part of Shulk's FS in smash 4.

 

[Wyoming]

As I said to Napoleon, why should Skull Kid be a boss, really? If you can write one sentence, you win. If you can't, that's exactly my point..

The most notable thing about the character is Majora itself and the final boss fight? The moveset is rife to give an unique take on a boss with Majora, the Skull Kid himself, the Moon, and including his moves used in Sm4sh?

I could see it, honestly.

 

[KMDP]

Oh yeah. I was stuck in TLOZ there. I would still do this though.

You could also stretch the definition to include and as well, because Din's Fire and the Can explode.

 

[Iridium]

Imagine if we got a story mode with completely different stories for whatever character you choose, so about 71 different paths, if you include Mii Fighters! Not necessarily the same as SSE.

I would like if this happened, but alas.

You could also stretch the definition to include and as well, because Din's Fire and the Can explode.

Would Roy, Ike and Robin count too? This list is a bit larger than I thought it would be.

Edit: Forget Robin.

 

[DJ3DS]

Did I miss any leaks in the past 50 pages or so?


I personally think that some of the most highly-requested characters just happened to be villains. Nothing more to it.

Ultimate is meant to be a crowdpleasing title. Any other theme is pure coincidence, imo.

Oh, sure.

I'm not here shilling that idea (I do think it would be cool though), I just had something I wanted to say regarding which characters would or wouldn't be appropriate for the hypothetical theme.

 

[pupNapoleon]

*inspired to draw something, but held back by a program crash*

...Watch this space. (not literally this post)

Characters that would be able to beat King Dodongo.

Splat Bomb
Grenades


Bombs are a really rare Smash tool.

Bomberman confirmed fo-- oh wait..

 

[osby]

What about sheik’s explodey bomb? The firework like one she got in 4?

Burst Grenade.

I don't know the last time I've seen someone using it.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

It's a staple in the Classicvania games since the first that Dracula can only be harmed by hitting his head, and it can be seen in the direct, where attacks that didn't hit his head went through him with some mist effect, while those had a damage visual were those that hit his head.

Ok thank you, I'm glad this is true since it will make the bosses much more interesting.

 

[MrRoidley]

Maybe they just wanted to use the moon? there's not always rhyme or reason behind why things happen

I mean sure, it could happen, but it would still strike as odd imo, seeing Skull Kid's popularity and whatnot

 

[Iridium]

Burst Grenade.

I don't know the last time I've seen someone using it.

At least it won't be too useless now. No helpless state is a start.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Weirdly enough, I'd say Bayonetta 'fits' better than Cloud or Ryu to Smash.

Her personality and attack are so over the top and pronounced that, seeing her with goofy Nintendo characters doesn't feel weird as it should be.

I just feel like, compared to all the other 3P characters, she just doesn't have the same iconic status as the rest of them.

Between that, the realistic guns, the sexualized themes, she still feels the most out of place of all the characters.

 

[osby]

Imagine if we got a story mode with completely different stories for whatever character you choose, so about 71 different paths, if you include Mii Fighters! Not necessarily the same as SSE.

I would like if this happened, but alas.



Would Roy, Ike and Robin count too? This list is a bit larger than I thought it would be.

Edit: Forget Robin.

Character specific Classic Mode will serve more or less as an arcade mode, which is cool by itself.

 

[KMDP]

I guess could technically defeat King Dodongo... if being a Dinosaur monster is considered close enough to being a Dragon for the Falchion, Sword of Seals and Jigglypuff's Fairy typing.

The idea of Jigglypuff taking no damage from King Dodongo for no adequately explained reason is funny to me, for some reason.

 

[UserKev]

The most notable thing about the character is Majora itself and the final boss fight? The moveset is rife to give an unique take on a boss with Majora, the Skull Kid himself, the Moon, and including his moves used in Sm4sh?

I could see it, honestly.

But its just as much a d move. He's a fan request, strong Zelda representation and not having him playable is plain unnecessary. Skull Kid not playable in Smash Ultimate has more negatives then positives. You can even argue he was already a boss in Smash 4.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Imagine if we got a story mode with completely different stories for whatever character you choose, so about 71 different paths, if you include Mii Fighters! Not necessarily the same as SSE.

I would like if this happened, but alas.

Classic Mode kinda does that.

It's not really the same, but it's a good compromise to the fact that 71+ stories in three years is utter insanity.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

As I said to Napoleon, why should Skull Kid be a boss, really? If you can write one sentence, you win. If you can't, that's exactly my point.



And this response only makes my point all the more exactly. Skull Kid is a long since requested character. Not as a *** boss.

No hate against you tho.

Why shouldn't he? why can't he be? he could go either way but there's no real reason he couldn't be a boss if sakurai wanted him to be

 

[osby]

I guess could technically defeat King Dodongo... if being a Dinosaur monster is considered close enough to being a Dragon for the Falchion, Sword of Seals and Jigglypuff's Fairy typing.

The idea of Jigglypuff taking no damage from King Dodongo for no adequately explained reason is funny to me, for some reason.

Any scenario causing Jigglypuff to team up with Lucina or Roy is a good one.

 

[P1ZZ4CHU]

Speculation:

I don't think we should take the alleged "Spirits" mode too literally. My hunch is that it's more an Adventure Mode style subgame, more fleshed out though.

I foresee that we'll see a string of levels in the "spirit" of each series: A bright happy Mario world, a labyrinthine explorative Metroid stage, Green Hill Zone, etc etc.

I think we're getting a lot of villains and side characters specifically to make each of these stages feel more like a complete experience. Almost like a condensed version of the home series distilled into a single level game.

That's just my take.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I mean sure, it could happen, but it would still strike as odd imo, seeing Skull Kid's popularity and whatnot

Especially when explanations that Ridley was a boss because he was popular didn't go down well.

 

[Iridium]

I guess could technically defeat King Dodongo... if being a Dinosaur monster is considered close enough to being a Dragon for the Falchion, Sword of Seals and Jigglypuff's Fairy typing.

The idea of Jigglypuff taking no damage from King Dodongo for no adequately explained reason is funny to me, for some reason.

Man, you dismantled my original point. It makes sense though, so there's that. And Mega Charizard X would have counted too...

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Speculation:

I don't think we should take the alleged "Spirits" mode too literally. My hunch is that it's more an Adventure Mode style subgame, more fleshed out though.

I foresee that we'll see a string of levels in the "spirit" of each series: A bright happy Mario world, a labyrinthine explorative Metroid stage, Green Hill Zone, etc etc.

I think we're getting a lot of villains and side characters specifically to make each of these stages feel more like a complete experience. Almost like a condensed version of the home series distilled into a single level game.

That's just my take.

It's honestly what I think the mode could be. Something really close to Melee's Adventure Mode.

If that's what the mode will be, then you can bet I'll be hyped up about it. Way better than SSE's generic places.

 

[PeridotGX]

I just realised somthing. Assuming that the amiibo unlock thing is true, you could unlock ,,, and before their base. I wonder what happens if you do that.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I just realised somthing. Assuming that the amiibo unlock thing is true, you could unlock ,,, and before their base. I wonder what happens if you do that.

I think they'll just take their original's place on the roster until they're unlocked.

 

[Iridium]

Classic Mode kinda does that.

It's not really the same, but it's a good compromise to the fact that 71+ stories in three years is utter insanity.

I wish I hadn't forgotten that. Thanks for reminding me!

 

[KMDP]

Man, you dismantled my original point. It makes sense though, so there's that. And Mega Charizard X would have counted too...

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Tyrunt and Tyrantrum are Dinosaurs, and considered Dragon-type.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

I just realised somthing. Assuming that the amiibo unlock thing is true, you could unlock ,,, and before their base. I wonder what happens if you do that.

Probably this

I think they'll just take their original's place on the roster until they're unlocked.

But i know what amiibo i'm going to be buying if she makes it in

 

[Iridium]

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Tyrunt and Tyrantrum are Dinosaurs, and considered Dragon-type.

And Mega Man too if you count customs/canon abilities!

 

[Over9000BPM]

Probably this

But i know what amiibo i'm going to be buying if she makes it in

Still hoping that my amiibos will unlock SR Samus and Sm4sh Zamus

 

[KMDP]

And Mega Man too if you count customs/canon abilities!

could send a Lloid KD's way (just remember to jump off of it).
I think Gunner also has bombs.
could just make the Monado able to cut King Dodongo, because he's an overpowered PoS.