Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[TMNTSSB4]

No, he isn't. He just shows up in Little Mac's victory screen.

And more than likely he’s taunts

Okay, I think Octolings will be in Smash at some point as Octo Expansion was a massive success for Nintendo and actually exceeded their expectations... I just don’t think timing is in their favor since it was only released after the project plan got finalized, I just don’t see it happening now in all honesty, maybe as DLC.

And the playable Octolings were revealed a segment or two before Smash Ultimate was revealed back in the March direct

 

[pupNapoleon]

Okay, I think Octolings will be in Smash at some point as Octo Expansion was a massive success for Nintendo and actually exceeded their expectations... I just don’t think timing is in their favor since it was only released after the project plan got finalized, I just don’t see it happening now in all honesty, maybe as DLC.

I think the Octolings were a safe bet without the expansion. It was forecast with Splatoon one, but made evident with Splatoon 2-
Splatoon is Nintendo's fourth pillar-series (alongside Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon).

 

[Cosmic77]

Exactly. The moon could be used as Skull kid's FS

Could be, but I doubt it. What would be the point in adding the moon as a new AT if Sakurai had already settled on giving it to Skull Kid as a Final Smash? Both would likely function in the exact same way, in that the moon comes crashing down on the stage.

Should Skull Kid become a character, I believe he's getting a different Final Smash. Although, if I'm being honest here, the moon's presence as an AT doesn't feel like a good thing for SK. If anything, I'd argue that his chances went down tremendously because of it.

 

[Yosher]

I know I'm gonna get some griping from this, but I just cannot see Geno and Skull Kid both getting into the game (at this point). It would have made more sense to not announce them both back to back. While both have complete ability to be fully original, there is a thematic similarity between a reanimated doll and a masked puppet. Not just the tropes in movement, but the entire premise of the uncanny valley and the distortion of humanity.
If both were going to get in, I dont think they would be announced so near each other.
But perhaps one will get into the DLC. They would both be fun.

TL;DR. Pure opinion, but I don't think we will get both Geno and Skull Kid on the base game.

What if they want to announce them both in the exact same trailer BECAUSE of their similarities? First the evil puppet terrorizes the heroes, then the good puppet comes in to resque them. I could see it happen. ..to be honest I doubt they're gonna make it in as well, but I'm also not counting out the possibility altogether.

 

[Blargg888]

*inspired to draw something, but held back by a program crash*

...Watch this space. (not literally this post)

Characters that would be able to beat King Dodongo.

Splat Bomb
Grenades


Bombs are a really rare Smash tool.

You forgot about Mii Gunner and Megaman.
They have bombs as well.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I know I'm gonna get some griping from this, but I just cannot see Geno and Skull Kid both getting into the game (at this point). It would have made more sense to not announce them both back to back. While both have complete ability to be fully original, there is a thematic similarity between a reanimated doll and a masked puppet. Not just the tropes in movement, but the entire premise of the uncanny valley and the distortion of humanity.
If both were going to get in, I dont think they would be announced so near each other.
But perhaps one will get into the DLC. They would both be fun.

TL;DR. Pure opinion, but I don't think we will get both Geno and Skull Kid on the base game.

Most of us didn't expect K. Rool in the August Direct for this reason as he would follow up on another villanous reptile, myself included. A lot of people also expected a 3rd party to be at E3 as that's what's usually happened in the past, but it was saved for two months later for some reason.

I don't think we can read much from these sort of things, and even then there are still 3 months until release.

 

[KMDP]

Saw people talking about Lara Croft and Bayonetta teaming up, so I decided to sketch something out.

Spoiler: Spoilered for Size

I'm not going to do anything more with this. It was just something drawn for fun.

 

[Enchess]

Anything worth catching up on since the roast game and Metroid rankings ended?

 

[Michele]

We got five characters less than a month ago, and have only known about the game since March.
Not to mention the three dozen leaks that have come out since then.

What the heck else do you want, Michele ?

I see...expect for the last sentence. Sounded a bit harsh if you ask me.

What I wanted to elaborate was that I feel like I'm noticing this tread with Smash Ultimate. I know it's slightly off topic, but recently there was more information on the DMC5 leak a day ago or so. It's like, the leakers has managed to leak that game more.

The tread I notice is that I am not seeing any real leaks about Smash, whenever they be big or not. On DMCV, there were a lot of real leaks about that game, but when it's about Breath of the Wild, or Smash Ultimate, there is no real leaks and most if not all are just predictions.

So, I need a long elaboration. How is it that DMCV gets leaked quickly, but when it's about Ultimate or similar games, there is no real leaks? How is this sorcery possible to achieve?!

Yes, I remember about this ESRB leak. Even if it was a little late to the party, close to the release, everything was revealed true.

 

[P.Kat]

Oh boy another fake

Spoiler: leak

Why does her smile/face reminds me of Mavis from Hotel Transylvania? But all in all wouldn't mind Octolings as an echo.

That is just more playable characters that would have to be made, when such developmental work could be spent on other standalone characters instead, so I absolutely would not want to see that.

I can understand that, the multiple Blades Switch wouldn't be likely anyway, I was also just curious as to which Blade people would pick. For me, at least having Pyra/Mythra switchable with Rex would suffice since they're semi-echoes. The only thing that would change between them are their B special, taunts, and idles

 

[Paperchampion23]

I see...expect for the last sentence. Sounded a bit harsh if you ask me.

What I wanted to elaborate was that I feel like I'm noticing this tread with Smash Ultimate. I know it's slightly off topic, but recently there was more information on the DMC5 leak a day ago or so. It's like, the leakers has managed to leak that game more.

The tread I notice is that I am not seeing any real leaks about Smash, whenever they be big or not. On DMCV, there were a lot of real leaks about that game, but when it's about Breath of the Wild, or Smash Ultimate, there is no real leaks and most if not all are just predictions.

So, I need a long elaboration. How is it that DMCV gets leaked quickly, but when it's about Ultimate or similar games, there is no real leaks? How is this sorcery possible to achieve?!

Easy. Nintendo takes their game leaks much more seriously. Monster Hunter world's monster list and even post game update monster list were all leaked 3 months before the game came out. That's just the difference between Capcom and Nintendo.

 

[Enchess]

I see...expect for the last sentence. Sounded a bit harsh if you ask me.

What I wanted to elaborate was that I feel like I'm noticing this tread with Smash Ultimate. I know it's slightly off topic, but recently there was more information on the DMC5 leak a day ago or so. It's like, the leakers has managed to leak that game more.

The tread I notice is that I am not seeing any real leaks about Smash, whenever they be big or not. On DMCV, there were a lot of real leaks about that game, but when it's about Breath of the Wild, or Smash Ultimate, there is no real leaks and most if not all are just predictions.

So, I need a long elaboration. How is it that DMCV gets leaked quickly, but when it's about Ultimate or similar games, there is no real leaks? How is this sorcery possible to achieve?!

Most people working on games don't want anything to leak. Even when they do, their livelihood depends on their job, so the risk isn't worth it. A lot of time the only things people are willing to leak is stuff that people will doubt until it's revealed officially, which it's very possible we still have some of those lying around. Most games don't have big leaks. It may seem like it at times, but Smash is not the exception in this case, it's DMC

 

[Michele]

Easy. Nintendo takes their game leaks much more seriously. Monster Hunter world's monster list and even post game update monster list were all leaked 3 months before the game came out. That's just the difference between Capcom and Nintendo.

But still, certain Nintendo games were leaked, whenever it be minor, or not.

Nintendo published a demo version of Kirby Star Allies, but it was a mistake, because soon then, the entire game was completely leaked!

 

[Over9000BPM]

Saw people talking about Lara Croft and Bayonetta teaming up, so I decided to sketch something out.

Spoiler: Spoilered for Size

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I'm not going to do anything more with this. It was just something drawn for fun.

You included Zamus just for me

 

[pupNapoleon]

Most of us didn't expect K. Rool in the August Direct for this reason as he would follow up on another villanous reptile, myself included. A lot of people also expected a 3rd party to be at E3 as that's what's usually happened in the past, but it was saved for two months later for some reason.

I don't think we can read much from these sort of things, and even then there are still 3 months until release.

I stated that the posted you quoted was an opinion simply because I'm aware there are not many "valid" arguments to other people.
To me, the reptilian villain aspect doesnt actually explain anything about their characters:
Ridley is a realistic, brutally aggressive, winged skeleton. King K Rool is a bloated, campy, cartoon cosplayer.
I'm not just choosing these words to sound contrasting, or even to say that personality 'scripts for Geno and Skull Kid would not be constrasting.
I just think the similarity in body silhouette, movement, and lore, play into the same trope.

I like both characters. Neither is my tier 1, but it would make me smile to see either/ both. I just find it harder to believe now than before.

Of course I could be wrong! No way in hell would I have predicted three characters that are only in Fire Emblem Awakening.

I see...expect for the last sentence. Sounded a bit harsh if you ask me.

I'll respond more in a moment, but I did not mean to sound harsh. I meant it to sound jovial and exasperated.

 

[KMDP]

You included Zamus just for me

I included Zamus because she's also a buxom lady who uses a pistol.

 

[UserKev]

This doesnt prove your point at all. You joined a conversation among a half dozen valid arguments toward Skull Kid, and then are making no point against any of them.
I'm not saying this post comes with any hate, I'm saying that four posts in a row, youve sat down among a wall of arguments and said "convince me," listening to not one of them.

In other words, this isnt a conversation, you're not even speaking with a voice.

Honestly, it seems impossible for you to comprehend the most simple reasoning. You have some type of weird standard and demand I can't fathom.

That's how you come off anyway.

 

[Enchess]

But still, certain Nintendo games were leaked, whenever it be minor, or not.

Nintendo published a demo version of Kirby Star Allies, but it was a mistake, because soon then, the entire game was completely leaked!

Smash had leaks already. I remember someone posting a screenshot of a random 4chan thread that leaked just about everything from E3 before it happened. It just didn't catch on people it seemed unrealistic to us. The same thing could be happening right now for all we know.

Also, poor Nintendo is gonna stop putting out Demos at this rate. I think people underestimate how difficult demos are to put together, especially if you have to scrub them to avoid leaks. I've heard that putting out a demo is enough work to actually delay a game.

 

[Michele]

Smash had leaks already. I remember someone posting a screenshot of a random 4chan thread that leaked just about everything from E3 before it happened. It just didn't catch on people it seemed unrealistic to us. The same thing could be happening right now for all we know.

Also, poor Nintendo is gonna stop putting out Demos at this rate. I think people underestimate how difficult demos are to put together, especially if you have to scrub them to avoid leaks. I've heard that putting out a demo is enough work to actually delay a game.

Wait so games can be delayed by putting a demo? I heard about demo leaking entire game, but actually delaying them is news to me.

 

[Over9000BPM]

I included Zamus because she's also a buxom lady who uses a pistol.

Shhhh don’t spoil it Also, not anymore... Neither is Lara... Right in the childhood...

 

[Michele]

Shhhh don’t spoil it Also, not anymore... Neither is Lara... Right in the childhood...

Lara Croft also uses a gun.

quick edit: By the way, is it allowed to post fake leaks here?

 

[P1ZZ4CHU]

I see...expect for the last sentence. Sounded a bit harsh if you ask me.

What I wanted to elaborate was that I feel like I'm noticing this tread with Smash Ultimate. I know it's slightly off topic, but recently there was more information on the DMC5 leak a day ago or so. It's like, the leakers has managed to leak that game more.

The tread I notice is that I am not seeing any real leaks about Smash, whenever they be big or not. On DMCV, there were a lot of real leaks about that game, but when it's about Breath of the Wild, or Smash Ultimate, there is no real leaks and most if not all are just predictions.

So, I need a long elaboration. How is it that DMCV gets leaked quickly, but when it's about Ultimate or similar games, there is no real leaks? How is this sorcery possible to achieve?!

Yes, I remember about this ESRB leak. Even if it was a little late to the party, close to the release, everything was revealed true.

Smash 4 was a watershed moment for Nintendo's security policies. That game got blown wide open through a combination of factors. For one, they weren't very careful with how they handled information. The ESRB leak can't entirely be blamed on Nintendo but they screwed up big time with the DLC datamining. Second, the utter lack of info made people desperate, and it made anybody who could spill details into a hero. This attracted everyone and their mother, all hoping to grab some fame as "the one" who delivered actual credible leaks.

This isn't really the case with Ultimate. They appear to have locked things down tight, minus a slip up or two like the Galaga error. But the fact that our most credible leaker can only give us vague info like "Pokémon that isn't Decidueye" shows just how much they've clamped on any potential leaks. Plus, they're dumping content regularly and the game was only revealed closer to release rather than years out, which keeps the hype from becoming too large to sate in a timely manner.

Spoiler: Rumor

Also this is the definition of hearsay but it's probably the most plausible "rumor" to come out of 4chan regarding the game IMO.

Some anon posted claiming that nobody really knows much, those that did were just privy to some press info, and that the most people can do is either disconfirm something or provide informed speculation. As much as I dislike posting every little thing on the off chance it's true, this isn't the first time I've seen somebody higher up get fed up with all the pre-release hysteria and rant anonymously on 4chan/GameFAQs/Reddit about it. IIRC the same thing happened with PlayStation All-Stars and it's how we heard about Ryu Hayabusa and Lightning being shafted.

That said, fistful of salt.

 

[Over9000BPM]

Lara Croft also uses a gun.

She doesn’t even do that anymore, flipping bow and arrows... it’s the 21st century, lady! How are you going backwards on this?!

 

[pupNapoleon]

Honestly, it seems impossible for you to comprehend the most simple reasoning. You have some type of weird standard and demand I can't fathom.
That's how you come off anyway.

Im asking for you to come up with a single reason for as to why Skull Kid does not make sense as a boss. For reference, these are the posts of yours which I have quoted:

Skull Kid as a boss is an extremely illogical move and basically wouldn't make sense.

Why should Skull Kid be a boss, really?

As I said to Napoleon, why should Skull Kid be a boss, really? If you can write one sentence, you win. If you can't, that's exactly my point. And this response only makes my point all the more exactly. Skull Kid is a long since requested character. Not as a *** boss. No hate against you tho.

Honestly, it seems impossible for you to comprehend the most simple reasoning. You have some type of weird standard and demand I can't fathom. That's how you come off anyway.

The closest to an argument that you have made for Skull Kid, is that he's requested as a character, and that just isnt enough to validate that he *must* be a playable character. I'm just asking for your reasoning, and so far your reasons have not been stated. I'm not sure what is coming out poorly in communicating this to you, and I'm not intending to sound condescending or dismissive. I just have not read an actual defending argument from you.

 

[Enchess]

Wait so games can be delayed by putting a demo? I heard about demo leaking entire game, but actually delaying them is news to me.

If you look into what goes into a demo in interviews, you'll see a common thread of companies basically stopping work on the full game completely for a month or two just to make the demo happen. A lot of that work ends up thrown away or needed to be repeated. It's a huge time sink and games can come out faster if they don't need to worry about it. I've also seen devs say they aren't going to put out Demos because they want to stay on schedule, implying a demo would delay it.

When you throw on datamining created a need for scrubbing (which I can promise you is not as quick or easy a process as most imagine), now you have even more non-reusable work that could've been spent on the actual game. Nintendo probably considers this stuff every time they consider putting a demo out.

 

[Cosmic77]

Not sure how many people genuinely believe the music theory, but I wanted to show everyone the remaining series that haven't gotten a remix on the site yet.


( are likely not getting remixes based off the Direct.)

So just to recap, almost every newcomer has gotten a remix on the Ultimate website shortly after their official reveal (). Seeing how we have about 14 weeks until release, most of the franchises I listed will probably get a remix before then.

However, isn't it a little strange that popular franchises like Mario, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and Sonic haven't gotten anything yet? Going off the pattern from previous characters, it wouldn't suprise me if these franchises were purposely being held off so they could get a remix to tie in with a newcomer reveal (Paper Mario/Geno, Gen VII Pokemon, Isabelle, Shadow). Now obviously this theory isn't perfect, as Ken could be revealed without a proper SF remix. Still, I can't help but feel like these missing franchises could be a hint as to what we'll get in the future.

 

[KMDP]

quick edit: By the way, is it allowed to post fake leaks here?

It depends.

If you're highlighting a leak from another site (e.g. 4chan), then this is allowed (otherwise DaybreakHorizon would have been banned a long time ago).

If you're writing it yourself, then no, you're not allowed; you'll get a warning the first time, then an infraction the second time.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Spoiler: Rumor

Also this is the definition of hearsay but it's probably the most plausible "rumor" to come out of 4chan regarding the game IMO.

Some anon posted claiming that nobody really knows much, those that did were just privy to some press info, and that the most people can do is either disconfirm something or provide informed speculation. As much as I dislike posting every little thing on the off chance it's true, this isn't the first time I've seen somebody higher up get fed up with all the pre-release hysteria and rant anonymously on 4chan/GameFAQs/Reddit about it. IIRC the same thing happened with PlayStation All-Stars and it's how we heard about Ryu Hayabusa and Lightning being shafted.

That said, fistful of salt.

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1. 4 Chan rumor
2. OP specifies that he's not leaking the game
3. Proceeds to say 4 characters aren't in the game.


It's bologna.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

So was Richter's most recent appearance before Smash Ultimate was in the 2010 game Harmony of Despair?

And on a slightly different topic, if Lara ends up being a playable character in Smash Ultimate, I expect her more classic look to be the design used for her, similar to Pac-Man.

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Honestly I would rather Skull Kid stay as an assist trophy than a boss because him being a boss means Sakurai looked at him and ugraded him only he upraded him in the complete wrong direction. Also it wouldn’t make sense for him to do that since he’s made many iconic villains playable in this iteration. Skull Kid is a heavily requested character. The Sakurai of today wouldn’t make that mistake.

 

[Mc.Rad]

The ironic thing about the newcomers so far is that most of them got “Nah, They’d be a boss rather than a newcomer” before they were revealed. Then look where we are, both Ridley and K.Rool are in Smash.... I guess the more you expect them to be a boss, the more likely they’re a newcomer.

 

[Cosmic77]

Spoiler: Rumor

Also this is the definition of hearsay but it's probably the most plausible "rumor" to come out of 4chan regarding the game IMO.

Some anon posted claiming that nobody really knows much, those that did were just privy to some press info, and that the most people can do is either disconfirm something or provide informed speculation. As much as I dislike posting every little thing on the off chance it's true, this isn't the first time I've seen somebody higher up get fed up with all the pre-release hysteria and rant anonymously on 4chan/GameFAQs/Reddit about it. IIRC the same thing happened with PlayStation All-Stars and it's how we heard about Ryu Hayabusa and Lightning being shafted.

That said, fistful of salt.

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Why is it that I actually have a little bit of faith in this rumor being true?

 

[papagenos]

Easy. Nintendo takes their game leaks much more seriously. Monster Hunter world's monster list and even post game update monster list were all leaked 3 months before the game came out. That's just the difference between Capcom and Nintendo.

you mentioned loz18 being on a private discord, theres someone on 4chan claiming loz18 is wrong about skull kid (also saying no isaac, banjo, or shantae). they mention loz18 hiding on discord too, just curious what your thoughts are on this, i dont know how many people are aware of that discord.

 

[KMDP]

Skull Kid is a heavily requested character

Define "heavily requested".

Skull Kid's support has been around for a long time, but he's never been heavily requested (just look at the Brawl and Sm4sh threads on this site, neither of them are particularly big). Not to mention that he's competing with like 10-15 other Zelda characters.

 

[Michele]

Smash 4 was a watershed moment for Nintendo's security policies. That game got blown wide open through a combination of factors. For one, they weren't very careful with how they handled information. The ESRB leak can't entirely be blamed on Nintendo but they screwed up big time with the DLC datamining. Second, the utter lack of info made people desperate, and it made anybody who could spill details into a hero. This attracted everyone and their mother, all hoping to grab some fame as "the one" who delivered actual credible leaks.

This isn't really the case with Ultimate. They appear to have locked things down tight, minus a slip up or two like the Galaga error. But the fact that our most credible leaker can only give us vague info like "Pokémon that isn't Decidueye" shows just how much they've clamped on any potential leaks. Plus, they're dumping content regularly and the game was only revealed closer to release rather than years out, which keeps the hype from becoming too large to sate in a timely manner.

Spoiler: Rumor

Also this is the definition of hearsay but it's probably the most plausible "rumor" to come out of 4chan regarding the game IMO.

Some anon posted claiming that nobody really knows much, those that did were just privy to some press info, and that the most people can do is either disconfirm something or provide informed speculation. As much as I dislike posting every little thing on the off chance it's true, this isn't the first time I've seen somebody higher up get fed up with all the pre-release hysteria and rant anonymously on 4chan/GameFAQs/Reddit about it. IIRC the same thing happened with PlayStation All-Stars and it's how we heard about Ryu Hayabusa and Lightning being shafted.

That said, fistful of salt.

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Ah, I see. I suppose you have an fair point then. I didn't know a Pichu like you could talk with so much intelligence. Thanks for your explanation - I didn't want to seem hungry for leaks, but sometimes I am forced to spit and yell that I want leaks so much. It does shows that the security has increased a lot even since the Wii U era.

--

About that 4chan thread, well, I noticed that thread a bit later, at that time it had around 70 replies. So I thought I would chime in that thread by jokingly saying that I hacked Loz, Pandy and Vergeben's accounts.

For Loz, I jokingly said that he did indeed post the video, although the video itself was instantly destoryed so I couldn't recover it. Leaky, I said that he was swearing with loz18 and wants to get attention. And for the last, Vergeben. I only said that he was considering making an Twitter account, but to me it sounds more like my opinion than an joke. I mean, it would be fair if Verge did what Loz did. Before you ask me, I posted these to defend the OP.

And to end my own, I said that Sora is an likely choice, more than Geno. I only said that he would be more likely as he has more moveset potential than Geno. I still want both of them though, but I wish about that. As much as I hate to admit it, maybe the OP in that image is right.

edit: Wait so Paper was the OP? I am surprised

 

[MrRoidley]

Who said he's not still an AT?

That's why I said "if he's indeed cut" and later said "I'll eat my words [about the boss thing] if he's an AT"...
and that rumor guy soon followed that Skull Kid would not be like Rathalos

 

[Over9000BPM]

So was Richter's most recent appearance before Smash Ultimate was in the 2010 game Harmony of Despair?

And on a slightly different topic, if Lara ends up being a playable character in Smash Ultimate, I expect her more classic look to be the design used for her, similar to Pac-Man.

I... don’t see that happening

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

So was Richter's most recent appearance before Smash Ultimate was in the 2010 game Harmony of Despair?

And on a slightly different topic, if Lara ends up being a playable character in Smash Ultimate, I expect her more classic look to be the design used for her, similar to Pac-Man.

they need to go with tomb raider anniversary lara, makes sense since it's a straight upgrade of her TR1 design

 

[Metal Shop X]

Spoiler: Rumor

Also this is the definition of hearsay but it's probably the most plausible "rumor" to come out of 4chan regarding the game IMO.

Some anon posted claiming that nobody really knows much, those that did were just privy to some press info, and that the most people can do is either disconfirm something or provide informed speculation. As much as I dislike posting every little thing on the off chance it's true, this isn't the first time I've seen somebody higher up get fed up with all the pre-release hysteria and rant anonymously on 4chan/GameFAQs/Reddit about it. IIRC the same thing happened with PlayStation All-Stars and it's how we heard about Ryu Hayabusa and Lightning being shafted.

That said, fistful of salt.

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That rumor was interesting at first, but then the end came out and now, I can't help but feel a bit skeptical about some of those claims. (I mean, alot of peoples are going to be dissapointed, that's inevitable, that's just how Smash Speculation work. Also, how did they know that Isaac, Skull Kid, Shantae and Banjo aren't in the game for sure?)

Also, if that rumor is true, I wonder where mimiqueVEVO fall into the mix, since they also have made guess that end up being true. (here a video for those who don't know about them)

 

[KMDP]

Smash 4 was a watershed moment for Nintendo's security policies. That game got blown wide open through a combination of factors. For one, they weren't very careful with how they handled information. The ESRB leak can't entirely be blamed on Nintendo but they screwed up big time with the DLC datamining. Second, the utter lack of info made people desperate, and it made anybody who could spill details into a hero. This attracted everyone and their mother, all hoping to grab some fame as "the one" who delivered actual credible leaks.

This isn't really the case with Ultimate. They appear to have locked things down tight, minus a slip up or two like the Galaga error. But the fact that our most credible leaker can only give us vague info like "Pokémon that isn't Decidueye" shows just how much they've clamped on any potential leaks. Plus, they're dumping content regularly and the game was only revealed closer to release rather than years out, which keeps the hype from becoming too large to sate in a timely manner.

Spoiler: Rumor

Also this is the definition of hearsay but it's probably the most plausible "rumor" to come out of 4chan regarding the game IMO.

Some anon posted claiming that nobody really knows much, those that did were just privy to some press info, and that the most people can do is either disconfirm something or provide informed speculation. As much as I dislike posting every little thing on the off chance it's true, this isn't the first time I've seen somebody higher up get fed up with all the pre-release hysteria and rant anonymously on 4chan/GameFAQs/Reddit about it. IIRC the same thing happened with PlayStation All-Stars and it's how we heard about Ryu Hayabusa and Lightning being shafted.

That said, fistful of salt.

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>"Loz knows Skull Kid and Isaac are not playable due to him having no info"
...What the hell is this word salad right here?

Why would Loz18 not actually knowing whether SK and Isaac are actually playable or not mean they're not playable at all? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.