Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Xgears]

It's just some fan recoloring of her Xenoblade X model on 4chan.
I made the mistake of posting it here thinking it might have a chance of being real, but it isn't.

Wait wasn't there a brawl mod that showed mario and bowser's alt color before smash 4 came out? Maybe he's showing us the alt colors of the character? It's most likely fake though.

 

[MagnesD3]

Current predictions

Newcomers

1. Skull Kid
2. Geno
3. Isaac
4. Bandanna Dee
5. Incineroar
6. Banjo Kazooie

Echoes (I could see 2-4 more even)

1. Shadow
2. Isabelle
3. Ken
4. Dixie
5. Black Shadow
6. Black Knight
7. Impa

Dlc (I could see more Echoes here and even a surprise Waluigi addition)

1. Spring Man (ribbon girl echo)
2. Rex and Pyra
3. Paper Mario
4. Chorus Kids
5. Rayman
6. Heihachi
7. Sora
8. Octoling echo
9. Master Chief
10. Crash Bandicoot
11. Dante

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Ya'll are missing the obvious, the most famous Banjo in all of gaming

 

[Pit93]

Has anyone of you ever wanted Deoxys as a Newcomer? I've been hoping for him to be in Brawl and in Sm4sh. There's just so much cool stuff I can imagine with his 4 different forms. Even if he can't change them like Zelda/Sheik could back in the day, it would already be cool if he changed into his defense form for example when using down special as a counter or if he went into his initiative form during his recovery. ^^

Man, I'd love to play with him. :D

 

[Will]

It's just Sonic and Blaze clashing.

I'm assuming you actually played a Rush game. It's called Rush. Like, it's a glorified dash attack but stronger and it's been a staple ever since whether you call it Rush or Boost or spamming the X button to go fast.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Has anyone of you ever wanted Deoxys as a Newcomer? I've been hoping for him to be in Brawl and in Sm4sh. There's just so much cool stuff I can imagine with his 4 different forms. Even if he can't change them like Zelda/Sheik could back in the day, it would already be cool if he changed into his defense form for example when using down special as a counter or if went into his initiative form during his recovery. ^^

Man, I'd love to play with him. :D

Going the Shulk route is the most logical course of action. However, he would still have to go up against 800+ Pokémon vying for a spot.

Spoiler

I know the spoiler mentions 100 less, but the list never stops growin'. It's the one series besides Fire Emblem where it's risky to ask for somebody specific.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

A thought that came to me recently is how Celica and Alm are both very requested FE character that could pretty easily be added in as echo fighters (Likely as DLC, considering Chrom is in the base game).

Or even better...an Alm/Celica combo (better than and Rex/Pyra+Mythra)...never gonna happen though

 

[Curious Villager]

Has anyone of you ever wanted Deoxys as a Newcomer? I've been hoping for him to be in Brawl and in Sm4sh. There's just so much cool stuff I can imagine with his 4 different forms. Even if he can't change them like Zelda/Sheik could back in the day, it would already be cool if he changed into his defense form for example when using down special as a counter or if he went into his initiative form during his recovery. ^^

Man, I'd love to play with him. :D

It was my most wanted Pokemon back in the Brawl days. Too bad gen 3 got snubbed in favor of the then more recent gen 4... :T

 

[QrowinSP]

Or even better...an Alm/Celica combo (better than and Rex/Pyra+Mythra)...never gonna happen though

Yeah, fraid not.

Those guys and a Hector echo for Ike that has larger hitboxes but is also a bigger body, alongside a new fe newcomer would make an excellent bit of DLC. That's like, every super desired fe character who could be an echo feasibly.

 

[Pit93]

Going the Shulk route is the most logical course of action. However, he would still have to go up against 800+ Pokémon vying for a spot.

I know the spoiler mentions 100 less, but the list never stops growin'. It's the one series besides Fire Emblem where it's risky to ask for somebody specific.

Yeah, I also thought of the Shulk route. Could be cool as well. ^^
And yeah, a specific Pokémon isn't very likely to happen but I'll keep hoping as long as there's gonna be new Smash-Games. ^^ (especially since there aren't that many Characters left that I'd REAAAAALLY scream from joy if they'd be revealed ^^ ).

 

[Union of Darkness]

No one talking about this? Seems like big news.

 

[Will]

No one talking about this? Seems like big news.

But we did talk about it. Had a whole forum game about it. Once you get the forum game, you know it's been tossed around.

 

[itsaxelol]

I'd rather have ****ing swanky kong in this game before another fire emblem character

 

[MainJPW]

I'm assuming you actually played a Rush game. It's called Rush. Like, it's a glorified dash attack but stronger and it's been a staple ever since whether you call it Rush or Boost or spamming the X button to go fast.

I'm pretty sure it's called "Super Boost" in Rush and Rush Adventure.

 

[Raspberry]

Going the Shulk route is the most logical course of action. However, he would still have to go up against 800+ Pokémon vying for a spot.

Spoiler

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I know the spoiler mentions 100 less, but the list never stops growin'. It's the one series besides Fire Emblem where it's risky to ask for somebody specific.

I love how Agumon is hiding among them. Really wish the guy got in.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

A thought that came to me recently is how Celica and Alm are both very requested FE character that could pretty easily be added in as echo fighters (Likely as DLC, considering Chrom is in the base game).

Celica could be a Robin echo: Add a tipper mechanic to the sword but get rid of the levin sword. Replace destructible equipment with stronger specials and a self damaging mechanic.

Alm would work well as a Link echo: Both use sword and bow. They'd just need to change his down and side b. A counter is an easy down b. Side b could be marth's or Ike's.

Would alm work as an ike echo? and they could even still give him Link's neutral special

 

[Yonder]

No one talking about this? Seems like big news.

Thankfully it confirms it's when you lose a stock, you coms back as your next chosen character, like in Smash Tour's end game. I LOVED that. Gonna abuse that mode. Thanks for the info.

My question for PAX today is the ultimate demo. Is it the same as the previous ones, but with K Rool, Chrom, and Dark Samus added to it? Or any gameplay changes? Any changes at all? Haven't heard anything about it.

 

[Will]

I'm pretty sure it's called "Super Boost" in Rush and Rush Adventure.

See? Multiple names. Wario's bike and flare blitz have a kid and it's that.

 

[Iridium]

I find it weird that I just found out Sakurai's married. And also that his wife designs the CSS and menus for the Smash games. I assume everyone else knows this, right?

 

[Sigran101]

I may just be crazy but I think we're going to get a lot more echoes. I think six or seven more. That's just the feeling I get. I think Shadow, Ken, Impa, Dixie, Isabelle, Black Knight, and Medusa all getting in is entirely possible. I also think they'll have a standalone trailer that's just an echo showcase which confirms several at once. None of this is really based on anything. It's just my gut feeling.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Well I had another Smash newcomer related dream. And as always it's an out of nowhere character. It was Paint Roller from Kirby. XD

 

[Union of Darkness]

My question for PAX today is the ultimate demo. Is it the same as the previous ones, but with K Rool, Chrom, and Dark Samus added to it? Or any gameplay changes? Any changes at all? Haven't heard anything about it.

Unlikely. Making separate demo builds eats up dev time. I figure Sakurai wants as much time as he can get.

 

[praline]

I hope Impa is not an echo just for the fact that everyone wants her as a Sheik echo and Sheik has literally the most boring move pool of any Smash character.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I find it weird that I just found out Sakurai's married. And also that his wife designs the CSS and menus for the Smash games. I assume everyone else knows this, right?

Yes, and she's finally improved, it seems.

 

[Zathura]

I find it weird that I just found out Sakurai's married. And also that his wife designs the CSS and menus for the Smash games. I assume everyone else knows this, right?

Really? That's cute

 

[IGuessItsOver]

I'd rather have ****ing swanky kong in this game before another fire emblem character
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I think HE should be added.

 

[Chandeelure]

Well I had another Smash newcomer related dream. And as always it's an out of nowhere character. It was Paint Roller from Kirby. XD

Eh, I will take it.

 

[osby]

I'm a casual player, so I pick characters I just like. For 3v3, I'd go with , and for 5v5 I would add and have every game represented, or have swapped in for more nostalgia. is tentative depending on how Ultimate's roster eventually turns out.

One character for each game, eh?

 

[Idon]

I find it weird that I just found out Sakurai's married. And also that his wife designs the CSS and menus for the Smash games. I assume everyone else knows this, right?

Yeah. That's why I address all my complaints to Mrs. Sakurai.

REMOVE GAMES AND MORE, DAMMIT
GO TO A GRAPHIC DESIGN CLASS.

 

[Deleted member]

I think HE should be added.

HE is better than all ARMS characters combined.

 

[NintendoKnight]

Yes, and she's finally improved, it seems.

She also did Melee, Kirby Air Ride, Brawl, Kid Icarus Uprising, and Meteos.

Fun fact, she designs them based on how she's directed to. It wasn't her choice to place Games & More into existence.

Geez, you guys treat her work as if it was all her idea.

 

[itsaxelol]

HE is better than all ARMS characters combined.

Lol they missed out on a good opportunity with that

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

She also did Melee, Kirby Air Ride, Brawl, Kid Icarus Uprising, and Meteos.

Fun fact, she designs them based on how she's directed to. It wasn't her choice to place Games & More into existence.

Geez, you guys treat her work as if it was all her idea.

To be fair, 4 was jank in general in terms of some of its new ideas and characters. At least no one can blame her for Smash Tour existing.

Well I had another Smash newcomer related dream. And as always it's an out of nowhere character. It was Paint Roller from Kirby. XD

Sad thing is, I could kind of see that happen.

 

[MSmariosonic]

One character for each game, eh?

Easy

 

[RandomAce]

There would still need to be a main character that you play as though It's not like every frame of animation can be a different character

That’s basically my point.

A character that can summon other characters from the series that will do their moves for certain attacks.

 

[Iridium]

She also did Melee, Kirby Air Ride, Brawl, Kid Icarus Uprising, and Meteos.

Fun fact, she designs them based on how she's directed to. It wasn't her choice to place Games & More into existence.

Geez, you guys treat her work as if it was all her idea.

Wait, who said that?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I'd rather have ****ing swanky kong in this game before another fire emblem character
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Shiny

I hope Impa is not an echo just for the fact that everyone wants her as a Sheik echo and Sheik has literally the most boring move pool of any Smash character.

......

I find it weird that I just found out Sakurai's married. And also that his wife designs the CSS and menus for the Smash games. I assume everyone else knows this, right?

You’re kinda late...by like...25 years

Yeah, fraid not.

Those guys and a Hector echo for Ike that has larger hitboxes but is also a bigger body, alongside a new fe newcomer would make an excellent bit of DLC. That's like, every super desired fe character who could be an echo feasibly.

I’d be shocked if we managed to get either of those characters in with or without an echo tbh (at least until dlc)

Yes, and she's finally improved, it seems.

One “bad” menu...compared to many great ones

 

[osby]

Easy

Jigglypuff bros.


Also, I can see others as rivals.

 

[Llort A. Ton]

Sakurai: "We recieved over 30,000 votes for Banjo from Banjo Kazooie, but only 2,000 of them requested Kazooie to be with Banjo. Since the fans dont want Kazooie, its just Banio joining the battle."

 

[Iridium]

Shiny

......

You’re kinda late...by like...25 years

I’d be shocked if we managed to get either of those characters in with or without an echo tbh (at least until dlc)

One “bad” menu...compared to many great ones
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Wait, I wasn't even born at that point! Can't really say much for that, I guess. I'll just keep the info in mind.