Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[AreJay25]

Or her one small eye, awkward mouth, screwed up collar or the facts Agnes is an innocent looking girl pretty much every time. This looks like a murderer.

To be fair, it took Mario 3 games to not look like a murderer.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Rest easy Geno, Banjo, Rayman, and Bandana Dee fans, its good this leak is fake because now we can at least still speculate them as characters.

Do hope that many of these get in though.

 

[Flynn__]

Isaac's sword is floating lol, look at the bottom.

I think it's meant to be like he's holding it upside-down, like pointing downwards. Like, the bottom part is actually the tip of the sword.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Or her one small eye, awkward mouth, screwed up collar or the facts Agnes is an innocent looking girl pretty much every time. This looks like a murderer.

To be fair? Mario smiles and is joyful and happy in just about all promo art of him? Save Smash. In Smash he looks like a man who came to **** **** up and doesn't give a crap who you are. ''Oh? Peach? Is that you? Prepare for the ass whooping my love."

 

[Nethermoosen]

You understand that people would be picking apart the face and calling it fake because of that right? That seems to be one of the main things when it comes to dissecting image leaks. The face. Rest of the render could be good but if the face is off ohhhh boy it's gonna be picked apart.

The point is, that render is way better quality than the crap we’ve been looking at today. If that quality is not seen in a render, it is fake. Because every render has a uniform shading, reflective style to it. I don’t know the real terms, but I know what I see. This Smash basically has an unmistakeable finger print built in.

 

[Untouch]

Counter argument towards the RH logo being localized.
On the website, the sprites for the logos are all contained in ONE file shared between all localized websites.
https://www.smashbros.com/assets_v2/img/common/sprite.svg

Simply put, the functionality to localize icons itself isn't even built into the blog at the moment.

 

[Nethermoosen]

To be fair? Mario smiles and is joyful and happy in just about all promo art of him? Save Smash. In Smash he looks like a man who came to **** **** up and doesn't give a crap who you are. ''Oh? Peach? Is that you? Prepare for the *** whooping my love."

She looks innocent even when she’s angry. It doesn’t matter what expression she makes.

 

[Over9000BPM]

Alright if the topic on Zero Suit is going to keep going on, can we at least talk about the real problem with her new render? The pose. It's the stupid anime boob-and-butts pose that I hate it so much. I mean I'll forgive it on Bayonetta as that's what she's all about and she knows it (and I don't really care about her anyway), but it doesn't make sense for Samus. Her Smash 4 pose is actually kind of cool and dynamic in a way that isn't trying to shove her butt into the focal point.

But anyway, I think it's a little unhealthy to be so resistant to change. It's fine to be disappointed by something by it's unhealthy to latch on to it all the time. A small change in character design should completely destroy your enjoyment of a character, especially when they still match the "power fantasy" she's supposed to.

Resistance to change is part and parcel of Autism unfortunately.

I LOVED that about her general presentation in 4. The way she was really ridiculously hot but the game never straight up flaunted it like Brawl did sometimes.

 

[Deleted member]

Isaac's sword is floating lol, look at the bottom.

How is it exactly? The blade is clearly coming from a spot where you can't see his hand but would assume is where it's located. Still fake tho.

 

[DarkFalcon]

The point is, that render is way better quality than the crap we’ve been looking at today. If that quality is not seen in a render, it is fake. Because every render has a uniform shading, reflective style to it. I don’t know the real terms, but I know what I see. This Smash basically has an unmistakeable finger print built in.

Oh I agree 100%.

 

[Erureido]

New Game: How do you want your most wanted's render to look?

I really want Dovahkiin to be shouting towards the camera. Sort of like this official art, but with the camera looking straight on, not from above.

I'd like to see Professor Layton do his signature point towards the camera.

The standing pose he takes would be similar to Steven's official art from ORAS:

I'm imagine Layton taking a similar pose to what Steven does here, but instead of just reaching out his hand like Steven does here, Layton's hand would be positioned as a point. I can also imagine Layton having a serious expression on his face, and perhaps he may be holding on to the brim of his hat with his left hand.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think it's meant to be like he's holding it upside-down, like pointing downwards. Like, the bottom part is actually the tip of the sword.

Ah, I see what you mean now. Still, the end of the sword is not pointed, which Isaac's sword is.

 

[vaanrose]

That still remains one of my favorite arguments against the ESRB leak. Like, I get where they were coming from, but they're both human characters. I think they're allowed to have similar faces.

It annoys me because the exact same reasoning I used back then to explain why Shulk wasn't Little Mac was what I used last night to explain why Agnes was Palutena/Marth.

 

[Ignoritus]

Isaac's sword is floating lol, look at the bottom.

You're looking at it the wrong way. That seems to actually be the tip with his right hand extending to the upper left and holding the sword downwards in front of him. You can see the hilt at the very top.

 

[Paperchampion23]

How is it exactly? The blade is clearly coming from a spot where you can't see his hand but would assume is where it's located. Still fake tho.

True, I can see that now

 

[Nap_]

Come on, just look at the chorus kids right side, the arm is cut before reaching Agnes, just some pixels but there it is.

 

[DraginHikari]

Isaac and Agnes look far too off model to me. Even if there is something weird in game the CSS models are usually pretty well done.

 

[Chandeelure]

...Why are you still talking about that?

 

[Flynn__]

Come on, just look at the chorus kids right side, the arm is cut before reaching Agnes, just some pixels but there it is.

Also, Agnès' hair invades Wario's spot

 

[MalcolmBelmont]

I think it's meant to be like he's holding it upside-down, like pointing downwards. Like, the bottom part is actually the tip of the sword.

Nope, that's incorrect. Notice how there is no tip on the sword if he was pointing it downwards

 

[KingofPhantoms]

New Game: How do you want your most wanted's render to look?

I really want Dovahkiin to be shouting towards the camera. Sort of like this official art, but with the camera looking straight on, not from above.

As long as Tetra would be sporting her signature wink and the pose isn't an awkward one, I'd be all set.

 

[Over9000BPM]

...Why are you still talking about that?

Because when there’s a news drought, smash fans make their own fun.

 

[Untouch]

Skull Kid and Isabelle will destroy this leak, I wonder if that's why he hasn't posted them yet.

 

[Hinata]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

Yeah, probably, because this actually looks professional. You can get on the butterface of it all you want. It still looks professional.

 

[Over9000BPM]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

I would have, this series has never really prioritised super detailed faces.

 

[dezeray112]

What are you all expecting to happen in September?

I highly anticipate a Nintendo Direct to be shown in September with at least some character reveals for Smash Ultimate for sure.

Full picture of the 'leak'.

Suffice to say, I think we can count this one out. Even the accent on Agnès name is wrong...

Well, I guess it is very likely that the leak is fake now considering that the accent of Agnes is incorrect.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

Yes, because at least Chrom’s face is symmetrical

 

[ZephyrZ]

Resistance to change is part and parcel of Autism unfortunately.

I don't bring it up often but I'm actually on the autism spectrum myself, believe or not. Although I've been pretty good at adapting to change in the gaming world I freak out a bit if for some reason my every day routine at work gets interrupted, so I know the feeling. I also get a strong urge to drag whatever my current obsession at the time is into every conversation, but I know it'll annoy some people so I resist it and try to save it for when it'll be relevant.

I personally use my autism as an explanation for my behavior rather then an a justification. Rather then just accept my negative traits as a part of who I am I still try to work on them. Not that I'm trying to throw any accusations onto you, I just felt it was apt to share my perspective on this.

 

[osby]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

Yes. The face looks of but it has pretty decent lightning. (At least for my untrained eyes)

 

[Mega Bidoof]

You understand that people would be picking apart the face and calling it fake because of that right? That seems to be one of the main things when it comes to dissecting image leaks. The face. Rest of the render could be good but if the face is off ohhhh boy it's gonna be picked apart.

It’s almost like we as a species are constantly looking at each other’s faces and it’s the main physics feature we use to distinguish people.

But yeah, we look at faces so much that we can just tell if a human face, real or not, looks “off.”

Uncanny valley and whatnot.

 

[Paperchampion23]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

Probably not, Chrom clearly has worse texturing going on than quite a few other characters.

This is why picture leaks are so hard to deconfirm, especially after ESRB and Rayman

 

[Over9000BPM]

Yes, because at least Chrom’s face is symmetrical

symmetrical faces are anatomically incorrect smh

 

[Chrono.]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

If you showed me this still? Sure.

If you showed me in off-camera-blurry-leaker style? I would've called fake, probably.

 

[Mc.Rad]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

If the super good lighting on the side wasn't there... I wouldn't have. The texture issue would have made me suspicious.

 

[Nethermoosen]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

Looking at the details on the armor? I would not simply dismiss it. The lighting is great. It is way better than the others today. Bar none. I was one of the guys who considered the chairs and I never gave today’s leak the time of day, which is majestically draped over Chrom’s body.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Are there any people who actually want the Chorus Kids in? I mean, i see a lot of people talking about Geno, Isaac or Shantae but never about the Chorus Kids.

 

[Deleted member]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

I don't know if the quality of the image is what makes it a bit weird, but MAN, they really gotta brush up Chrom's model before December. I even see material going over material it shouldn't.

 

[Chandeelure]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

Weird face
Plastic hair
Arm is way too muscular
Photoshopped Ike
Chrom playable

I give this leak a 0/10.

 

[DraginHikari]

The talk of Chrom makes me think.

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If someone had shown you this image from the official website before Chrom was confirmed, would you have believed it?

Frankly, I still would have to be suspicious but probably would have given it more thought then the CSS leaks. Primarily because in game screenshots can be a little bit harder to fake and take quite a bit more work. The problem is CSS images are much easier to faslify simply because their a static picture against a color background.

I think its the same reason the Palutena fake remained a suspect of discussion for a long time during Smash 4 speculation: