Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Jedisupersonic]

I'm just wating for the next series of text leaks that have Agnes, Dante and Soren on them, among others.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Okay can you please just tell us who you actually are, you’ve been very inconsistent with what you’ve posted and you’re very enigmatic as well so if you could shed some insight then that would be appreciated.

It's just common sense my dude. If they're not A.T.s then it's likely that they've made them playable characters

 

[DarkFalcon]

Let’s keep in mind that this is the sort of quality that will be seen on the CSS.

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Tell that to Chrom.

 

[Chrono.]

What's sad is that people legit spend their free time making these garbage "leaks". There's so much wrong with Agnes' model including the way her name is spelled i just cant honestly.

They sure get us talking.

And some are giving it the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Nethermoosen]

One thing is for sure, Shadow and Isabelle are in. It's not a matter of "if", but "when" is Nintendo going to reveal them.

Be gone false leaking demon!!!
Does anyone have any salt?

Haha. Just kidding. I KNOW we have salt....

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Also lol if all the leaks that piggybacked off this one are true that means:

Unique:

Agnes
Wave Race Guy
Isaac
Chorus Kids
Lloyd Irving
Banjo & Kazooie

Echoes:

Ken
Shadow
Isabelle (??)
Dixie Kong (???)

Yeah, if all of these leaks were real leaks that'd be a quite sizable roster left to reveal. Like 10 fighters at least.

 

[Banjodorf]

Okay can you please just tell us who you actually are, you’ve been very inconsistent with what you’ve posted and you’re very enigmatic as well so if you could shed some insight then that would be appreciated.

They're just posting trolly "leaks", I would ignore them.

Shadow and Isabelle being in is more expected than anything. Some rando saying that isn't really a "leak". I'd say the same thing and I'm no leaker.

 

[Over9000BPM]

Pal, I love the Metroid series and enjoy playing ZSS and Samus in Smash. I'm not obsessing over a physical attribute of her.
Like I miss TP Zelda and Ganondorf, but those designs aren't being used anymore, and that's that. Same way I love using fat Pikachu, and it's never going back to that.
If you like the character so much, you shouldn't be hung up over one single thing.
You should be happy that she's still there.
She still has the same breast size, it just she doesn't have boob socks like she did in Brawl and Smash 4. Like everyone else in this thread has been saying:
Drop it and get over it.

I mean the actual thing I'm curious about if they get into Smash, is if they're going to translate them over to the style of Xenoblade 1 and X or stay like their home incarnation.
I think it'd be a little odd to see a different art style between two characters within the same series, not like it can't happen though.

Yeah, a friend of mine is distraught over TP Zelda. I’m trying to get people interested in a movement lobbying for past Smash designs as DLC skins. It’d make everyone happy and fitting for smash “Ultimate”.

 

[MSmariosonic]

I’m talking about it a lot because this whole situation is killing me. Because of the generalisations and the crass assumptions. Because I love this character and I love this series and it means a lot to me.

I don't want to burst your bubble, bud.

But Samus is like... in most of her games in one of her suits. It's not like her previous figure made her character.

See if it was someone like Ivy Valentine... Sure. But Samus?

If reboot Lara Croft works, so can ssbu samus.

Just thought I'd throw my opinion on the matter since i've seen this subject drop here a few times

 

[Chrono.]

Also lol if all the leaks that piggybacked off this one are true that means:

Unique:

Agnes
Wave Race Guy
Isaac
Chorus Kids
Lloyd Irving
Banjo & Kazooie

Echoes:

Ken
Shadow
Isabelle (??)
Dixie Kong (???)

Yeah, if all of these leaks were real leaks that'd be a quite sizable roster left to reveal. Like 10 fighters at least.

Wave Race guy is Ryota Hayami I think.

 

[Paperchampion23]

What in fresh hell?

This thing is still going?

God. That Agnes model is horrifying in full.

I'd like to think if Square and Sakurai were going to include a character who has such a gorgeous concept they wouldn't make her look like a potato who has acquired the sense of smell and unfortunately the first thing she's forced to smell is Wario's fart.

I mean, thats the killer for the leak tbh. Both Isaac and Agnes's renders, while seem to modernize the character, really do butcher their iconic looks.

If Agnes or Isaac are in the game, they would be sure to look much closer to their art renders. Ken's and Shadow's surprisingly do look good enough to be actual renders (they look like Ryu's and Sonic's artstyle so it works), but Isaac and Agnes sadly do not.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Tell that to Chrom.

His face isn’t superb, but his armor sure as hell is.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Another leak, not sure if it was already posted but whatevs

 

[StormC]

I mean, thats the killer for the leak tbh. Both Isaac and Agnes's renders, while seem to modernize the character, really do butcher their iconic looks.

If Agnes or Isaac are in the game, they would be sure to look much closer to their art renders. Ken's and Shadow's surprisingly do look good enough to be actual renders (they look like Ryu's and Sonic's artstyle so it works), but Isaac and Agnes sadly do not.

Shadow looks like butt.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I think we better change the subject. You guys have any characters you want to Smash just to see their renders? I'm not even huge on Rex & Pyra but I'd like to see how their poses would be together. Renders for team fighters look really cool this time.

Similarly I'm interested in how they'd do a Banjo-Kazooie render. Also, fur and feathers always look great in recent Smash renders.

 

[Union of Darkness]

Leaker messed up by posting this. The renders are so clearly fake.

 

[Hinata]

Tell that to Chrom.

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I dunno, I think Chrom's render is pretty good. The face is weird, but outside of that it's decent.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Another leak, not sure if it was already posted but whatevs

Kiiiiinda late there friendo

Yeah, the accent on Agnès’s e gives it away as being fake

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I loved Wave Race.

So I'd be interested in seeing how you even begin to make that playable in Smash Brothers.

Still fake.

 

[WolfCypher]

Yeah, a friend of mine is distraught over TP Zelda. I’m trying to get people interested in a movement lobbying for past Smash designs as DLC skins. It’d make everyone happy and fitting for smash “Ultimate”.

Errhmm...Im reeeeeeally not missing Brawl's Saiyan space armor and scouter Wolf.

 

[SebasSancy]

the RH symbol for Rhythm Heaven is weird

 

[Paperchampion23]

OKAY, if anyone still believes that the leak could be anything, please look at Isaacs sword.... its floating lmao.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Agnes outfit reveals it as fake more than the accent.

It really looks quite painted next to the tremendous amount of detail in Wario who is right next to her.

 

[StormC]

Errhmm...Im reeeeeeally not missing Brawl's Saiyan space armor and scouter Wolf.

I am. But I love his design here too.

 

[DarkFalcon]

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I dunno, I think Chrom's render is pretty good. The face is weird, but outside of that it's decent.

You understand that people would be picking apart the face and calling it fake because of that right? That seems to be one of the main things when it comes to dissecting image leaks. The face. Rest of the render could be good but if the face is off ohhhh boy it's gonna be picked apart.

 

[Over9000BPM]

Errhmm...Im reeeeeeally not missing Brawl's Saiyan space armor and scouter Wolf.

Then use the default SSBU Wolf! Choice is good like that

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Kiiiiinda late there friendo

Yeah, the accent on Agnès’s e gives it away as being fake

And this one?

 

[vaanrose]

Next time a professional character artist tells you all the reasons something is clearly a photoshopped digital painting, don't compare them to the blind idiot who thought Shulk was Little Mac.

 

[Chrono.]

I loved Wave Race.

So I'd be interested in seeing how you even begin to make that playable in Smash Brothers.

Still fake.

Water type Captain Falcon.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Alright if the topic on Zero Suit is going to keep going on, can we at least talk about the real problem with her new render? The pose. It's the stupid anime boob-and-butts pose that I hate it so much. I mean I'll forgive it on Bayonetta as that's what she's all about and she knows it (and I don't really care about her anyway), but it doesn't make sense for Samus. Her Smash 4 pose is actually kind of cool and dynamic in a way that isn't trying to shove her butt into the focal point.

But anyway, I think it's a little unhealthy to be so resistant to change. It's fine to be disappointed by something by it's unhealthy to latch on to it all the time. A small change in character design should completely destroy your enjoyment of a character, especially when they still match the "power fantasy" she's supposed to.

 

[Idon]

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I dunno, I think Chrom's render is pretty good. The face is weird, but outside of that it's decent.

The shopped to hell render is good.

The ingame model? Eeh.

 

[Paperchampion23]

And this one?

Isaac's sword is floating lol, look at the bottom.

Edit: Nevermind he's holding it in a different position/downwards.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Isaac's sword is floating lol, look at the bottom.

Well sh*t

 

[Hinata]

Next time a professional character artist tells you all the reasons something is clearly a photoshopped digital painting, don't compare them to the blind idiot who thought Shulk was Little Mac.

That still remains one of my favorite arguments against the ESRB leak. Like, I get where they were coming from, but they're both human characters. I think they're allowed to have similar faces.

 

[MainJPW]

And this one?

Wouldn’t hurt to drop by the last few pages, mate.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Water type Captain Falcon.

That'd be lazy and lame.

But I could see it.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Agnes outfit reveals it as fake more than the accent.

It really looks quite painted next to the tremendous amount of detail in Wario who is right next to her.

Or her one small eye, awkward mouth, screwed up collar or the facts Agnes is an innocent looking girl pretty much every time. This looks like a murderer.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Water type Captain Falcon.

WAVE PUNCH!

WAVE KICK!

 

[Union of Darkness]

Another leak, not sure if it was already posted but whatevs

Leaker messed up by posting this. The renders are so clearly fake.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I think we better change the subject. You guys have any characters you want to Smash just to see their renders? I'm not even huge on Rex & Pyra but I'd like to see how their poses would be together. Renders for team fighters look really cool this time.

New Game: How do you want your most wanted's render to look?

I really want Dovahkiin to be shouting towards the camera. Sort of like this official art, but with the camera looking straight on, not from above.