Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

I got Ridley, I think I'm set for whatever else is to come.

 

[Dixie Kong]

I got Ridley, I think I'm set for whatever else is to come.

Awesome! Who else would you want in, as like the icing on the cake?

 

[blazefan519]

I could have sworn Sonic was 16 and Knuckles was older... (and I wasn't counting Generations)

Hm...

This information is coming straight from the Heroes manual, which I read extensively as it's my favorite game heh. It's also on the Sonic Wiki.

 

[KMDP]

Being nerdy again whoops, but the writers confirmed that the characters ages in Boom were the same as the games adjusts glasses

Then that infamous fantasy Knuckles has (which has Amy and Sticks fawning over him, and then him flying away) becomes... eyebrow-raising... let's just say that.

Did the Boom team specifically say "[character] is ## years old" or did they just say "they are the same age as in the games".

Because if it's the latter, then they probably don't actually know how old the characters actually are.

This information is coming straight from the Heroes manual, which I read extensively as it's my favorite game heh. It's also on the Sonic Wiki.

Sonic might have been 16 in StC or something, which is why I got confused. *shrug*

 

[WingedSupernova]

I looked at that 4chan thread and all I saw were people saying it's gonna be a Dark Souls character.
I then promptly left.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

*shrug*

The Boom Team probably aged Amy and Tails up to Sonic's age or close to it, to be honest. They might not even know what ages Amy and Tails are meant to be.

That’s what I’m assuming, since a Sonic wiki states she’s still 12 (and Sonic don’t roll that way...I assume)
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Amy_Rose_(Sonic_Boom)
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Amy_Rose

 

[Deleted member]

I got Ridley, I think I'm set for whatever else is to come.

I am so excited for Smash Ultimate.
So far, Smash Ultimate's newcomers are perfection.

 

[?????????????]

This information is coming straight from the Heroes manual, which I read extensively as it's my favorite game heh. It's also on the Sonic Wiki.

The WEIRDEST thing about that manual was that one sentence paragraph about Cream that simply says,

"She also loves ice cream."

And NOTHING else! Like they didn't have ANYTHING to say about Cream the Rabbit! XD

 

[Noipoi]

Are fake vergeben leaks the new thing now?
So far (if I recall correctly) Verg has said Ridley, Simon, Ice Climbers, Snake, and Wolf (all of which were true).
He's also said a Gen 7 Pokemon that isn't Decidueye, Lycanroc, or Mimikyu (maybe Incineroar), Isabelle, and Ken (they remain to be seen).
Those are the only "official" things verg has said, right?

 

[Deleted member]

Awesome! Who else would you want in, as like the icing on the cake?

Most realistic choice of my Top 3 would be Wonder-Red.
Other than him, Isabelle and a non-Incineroar Pokemon would also be good bonuses.

 

[blazefan519]

Then that infamous fantasy Knuckles has (which has Amy and Sticks fawning over him, and then him flying away) becomes... eyebrow-raising... let's just say that.

Did the Boom team specifically say "[character] is ## years old" or did they just say "they are the same age as in the games".

Because if it's the latter, then they probably don't actually know how old the characters actually are.

Sonic might have been 16 in StC or something, which is why I got confused. *shrug*

They said "same age as the games" so maybe they were aware or they weren't idk.
StC is Sonic the Comics right? That's the one with the crazy super sonic right? I never looked into it.

The WEIRDEST thing about that manual was that one sentence paragraph about Cream that simply says,

"She also loves ice cream."

And NOTHING else! Like they didn't have ANYTHING to say about Cream the Rabbit! XD

Don't forget that Eggman is a feminist (Womanizer in the Japanese ver) kek

 

[?????????????]

Are fake vergeben leaks the new thing now?
So far (if I recall correctly) Verg has said Ridley, Simon, Ice Climbers, Snaske, and Wolf (all of which were true).
He's also said a Gen 7 Pokemon that isn't Decidueye, Lycanroc, or Mimikyu (maybe Incineroar), Isabelle, and Ken (they remain to be seen).
Those are the only "official" things verg has said, right?

Yes.

 

[Nethermoosen]

So Conker can still be in as an assist trophy. That's wonderful.

Conker was in Diddy Kong Racing. So, I don’t see why not.

 

[?????????????]

The only other thing that Verge has said is that he likes Golden Sun. And I mean....that's not a leak. That's just good taste.

 

[Zinith]

Sonic canon is more convoluted than it has any right to be...

 

[KingofPhantoms]

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So, hypothetical:

> This is the full roster
> 103 stages
> Over 900 songs
> Spirits mode ends up like a pretty cool adventure/story mode

If the game came out today, without any other character reveals, but only adds what we've heard from Vergeben...

Yfw? Your score/10? Thoughts?

I see no reason to complain about this roster, and I certainly wouldn't do so myself.

I'm already loving the roster as is and a few of these remaining additions here would be the icing on the cake. It wouldn't be everyone from my most wanted (Isabelle is the only one among them mentioned by Vergeben so far) but it'd already be enough.

And Spirits as an actually improved Adventure/Story mode? I'm game for that.

 

[blazefan519]

Sonic canon is more convoluted than it has any right to be...

Any Sonic fan could have told you this

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I honestly believe for the first time that Skull Kid will be a newcomer. A lot of stuff to support this.

• He's so iconic (and so is his game).
• The moon being an assist trophy.
• Majora's Mask 3D and Hyrule Warriors were popular Nintendo games of 2014-2015.
• He's been requested for a long time, like Ridley and King K. Rool were.
• Seeing a Metroid and Donkey Kong newcomer makes me think Sakurai is listening to the people who consider it important for certain universes to have newcomers.
• He has a LOT of personality.
• Sakurai abviously recognizes the popularity.
• Ganondorf's Ocarina of Time design?/Young Link's return may have inspired Skull Kid's inclusion.
• And this (I can't believe I'm giving this merit):

I was originally thinking the Moon assist trophy means he's definitely not playable, but then I remembered King K. Rool's cinematic Final Smash, and it makes a lot of sense that Skull Kid's would be the moon demolishing Clock Town, as apposed to how the assist trophy functions.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Didn't Verge mention Daisy as well?

 

[RileyXY1]

If Namco Bandai is getting two more reps and they aren't from Tekken or Soul Calibur, that means that we are getting Lloyd Irving. The second character could be any other Namco Bandai character, including Agumon, Klonoa, or a Dark Souls character.

 

[Shroob]

Didn't Verge mention Daisy as well?

Verg didn't say Daisy, but at the same time, literally no one said Daisy.

 

[Zinith]

Any Sonic fan could have told you this

I was only into Sonic during the Gamecube era, and even then I was going "Huh? What? Wait what? What's going on? Why's this happening?"

 

[Nethermoosen]

No Heihachi? I call BS. Heihachi is Namco's #2 most popular character after PAC.

And No Calibur is a bit irritating. I love it, but it has gotten **** on lately. Hope the next one is good, and I'm sure they'd love to market the **** out of that.
Raphael for SCVI plz

Geralt would be cool. I know that isn’t Bandai Namco(right?) but Soul Caliber reminded me of it.

 

[DarkFalcon]

I honestly believe for the first time that Skull Kid will be a newcomer. A lot of stuff to support this.

• He's so iconic (and so is his game).
• The moon being an assist trophy.
• Majora's Mask 3D and Hyrule Warriors were popular Nintendo games of 2014-2015.
• He's been requested for a long time, like Ridley and King K. Rool were.
• Seeing a Metroid and Donkey Kong newcomer makes me think Sakurai is listening to the people who consider it important for certain universes to have newcomers.
• He has a LOT of personality.
• Sakurai abviously recognizes the popularity.
• Ganondorf's Ocarina of Time design?/Young Link's return may have inspired Skull Kid's inclusion.
• And this (I can't believe I'm giving this merit):

Skull Kid isn't even in the same stratosphere as Ridley and K. Rool in terms of requests.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Unless Vergeben verifies it on Gamefaqs or reddit, any supposed screenshot of him saying something shouldn't be trusted, we've seen several faked posts/messages from him now, and if there's a real one like that one anon who was talking with Vergeben pre-E3, Vergeben will confirm it himself.

Now if they were two Namco characters not from Tekken/Soul Caliber, wouldn't it be Lloyd and an Echo based on him or Ms. Pac-Man off of Pac-Man?

 

[KMDP]

They said "same age as the games" so maybe they were aware or they weren't idk.
StC is Sonic the Comics right? That's the one with the crazy super sonic right? I never looked into it.

Yes, Sonic the Comic is the one with the psychotic Super Sonic.

 

[Will]

Yes, Sonic the Comic is the one with the psychotic Super Sonic.

God those are just some really realistic hands

 

[Deleted member]

I honestly believe for the first time that Skull Kid will be a newcomer. A lot of stuff to support this.

• He's so iconic (and so is his game).
• The moon being an assist trophy.
• Majora's Mask 3D and Hyrule Warriors were popular Nintendo games of 2014-2015.
• He's been requested for a long time, like Ridley and King K. Rool were.
• Seeing a Metroid and Donkey Kong newcomer makes me think Sakurai is listening to the people who consider it important for certain universes to have newcomers.
• He has a LOT of personality.
• Sakurai abviously recognizes the popularity.
• Ganondorf's Ocarina of Time design?/Young Link's return may have inspired Skull Kid's inclusion.
• And this (I can't believe I'm giving this merit):

I was originally thinking the Moon assist trophy means he's definitely not playable, but then I remembered King K. Rool's cinematic Final Smash, and it makes a lot of sense that Skull Kid's would be the moon demolishing Clock Town, as apposed to how the assist trophy functions.

*Using chairs for a reference*

 

[ErenJager]

The final boss in Spirits mode can only be defeated by a Spirit Bomb.

Mario.... Link... Share your energy with me.

 

[blazefan519]

Yes, Sonic the Comic is the one with the psychotic Super Sonic.

Ah okay, the only thing I know about it is crazy super sonic and crossbow actually pretty cool Amy.

 

[Zinith]

I think I know what I want my two Bandai Namco reps to be:

Spoiler

Goddammit, I can't seem to find an Aeon Calcos image that doesn't ****ing break on this site

I don't know if they have anything in common

 

[DarkFalcon]

Unless Vergeben verifies it on Gamefaqs or reddit, any supposed screenshot of him saying something shouldn't be trusted, we've seen several faked posts/messages from him now, and if there's a real one like that one anon who was talking with Vergeben pre-E3, Vergeben will confirm it himself.

Now if they were two Namco characters not from Tekken/Soul Caliber, wouldn't it be Lloyd and an Echo based on him or Ms. Pac-Man off of Pac-Man?

Vergeben isn't trusted even if he posts normally.

 

[Deleted member]

Yes, Sonic the Comic is the one with the psychotic Super Sonic.

Eww, that is the ugliest looking Super Sonic I have ever seen.
Also I heard there was a controversially bad artist in Sonic comics that just made Sonic unlikable.

The final boss in Spirits mode can only be defeated by a Spirit Bomb.

Uhhh, okay....

 

[Enchess]

The final boss in Spirits mode can only be defeated by a Spirit Bomb.

Or by a photo taken with the Camera Obscura, which would be a more pleasant surprise.

 

[Blargg888]

I've said it before, but Smash Ultimate's roster is already pretty much perfect for me.
There are only one or two characters that would push it any farther on a personal level.

Actually Jungle Beat was rated E10+ by the ESRB:
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Fun Fact is that not only was Jungle Beat rated E10+, but it was literally the first game to ever receive the rating.

Had the rating not just been created, it might have ended up being T.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Vergeben isn't trusted even if he posts normally.

We can't even take his Ken "leak" at face value either. All he did was respond to another leaker with a random comment and WHAM, everyone believes him now.

 

[Dixie Kong]

I've said it before, but Smash Ultimate's roster is already pretty much perfect for me.
There are only one or two characters that would push it any farther on a personal level.



Fun Fact is that not only was Jungle Beat rated E10+, but it was literally the first game to ever receive the rating.

Had the rating not just been created, it might have ended up being T.

Which characters would you like as icing on the cake?

 

[?????????????]

In my last "roster" I made, I did Heihachi as my Namco newcomer, with Jin as an echo. I thought it was a cool mirror to the potential Ryu/Ken, Sonic/Shadow, Simon/Richter.

Kazuya probably makes more since as Heihachi's echo, but...eh. It works.

 

[blazefan519]

Eww, that is the ugliest looking Super Sonic I have ever seen.
Also I heard there was a controversially bad artist in Sonic comics that just made Sonic unlikable.

That was for the Archie comics Pre-Reboot. Post-Reboot, IDW, and StC have nothing to do with Ken Penders. They literally wiped all of his characters and none of them can be used anymore lol

 

[Shroob]

We can't even take his Ken "leak" at face value either. All he did was respond to another leaker with a random comment and WHAM, everyone believes him now.

I mean, if a guy who apparently has good info says to toss out a leak because it lacks a certain character...