Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Scicky]

Holy **** K. Rool looks awesome. That cannonball drop kick combo is serious stuff, makes me think of Duck Hunt, but fat... Fat Duck Hunt. Super surprised by how fast his fall speed is but not complaining at all. Dark Samus looks weirdly fast as well.

Now just gimme some Simon/Richter gameplay, please.

 

[Danpal65]

1. Actually I'm playing it logically. The leaker hasn't gotten anything wrong so far and got everything right 5 weeks before the August direct. 3 of his 6 characters were confirmed in one go, with the remaining 50% not being disconfirmed (and Gardevoir had a high chance of being the killer of the leak). I believe leaks based on actual, factual info for the game. Him not finding Simon doesn't discredit him. Several leakers during the brawl days had pieces of the roster and all called each other wrong, when they were all right in the end lmao. And I don't 100% believe the leak, but I don't dismiss leaks that have a track record so far.

2. The Gematsu leak doesn't happen almost ever. Leakers are DUMB. Just like everyone else, there is no logic for what they do or how they do it. People need to stop making assumptions on what they can or can't do.

3. Yea and I still believe Waddle Dee could be an echo fighter. Bite me. People actually liked the idea. Go argue with Dark Samus fans about what they think on their fighter being an echo.




Again, stop assuming the leak was at all from CEO or where it came from. The leaker could have said it came from his buttcrack and it still could be right. Thats exactly what I'm trying to say.

I think it is important to note that regardless of whether you think it is real or not if your argument is that it hasn't been deconfirmed it is a rumour and not a leak. The only time a rumour is a leak is if it is actually confirmed.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I see everyone keeps forgetting the part in the direct that some of simons moves were derived from Ritcher

So Ritcher could have very well been in before Simon was completed

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

Eh regardless the leak depends on if Gardevoir is playable or a Poke Ball summon again so we have to wait on that. Personally I hope Gardevoir is playable. :3

 

[Deleted member]

I think it is important to note that regardless of whether you think it is real or not if your argument is that it hasn't been deconfirmed it is a rumour and not a leak. The only time a rumour is a leak is if it is actually confirmed.

This is the worst. Everyone just uses leak because it's easier I guess. I always put "leak" in several layers of quotation marks when dealing with rumors because no one uses that word for some reason.

 

[Blue7113]

I see everyone keeps forgetting the part in the direct that some of simons moves were derived from Ritcher

So Ritcher could have very well been in before Simon was completed

It was just in reference to their genealogy in the Castlevania franchise.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

Does anyone know about this? https://www.thenerdmag.com/rumor-super-smash-bros-ultimate-leak-by-nintendo-employee/

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Except no, EVERYONE knows the 'main character first' meaning Simon would have been including, Chrom and Dark Samus were safe picks, especially judging from what Sakurai said. And Gothitelle is what kills it because should Gardevoir have some kicks, which I highly doubt it wouldn't have, Gothitelle would be unable to do the same. ALSO NOBODY LIKES GOTHITELLE
Don't make me go Mike Tyson on your sorry "If they completely change 90% of the moveset and then change the animations for it then it's still an echo" *** because at that point, only the specials would be the same. I am willing to make a ****ing money bet with you like I did with Blue that Bandana Dee wouldn't be an echo. How does 50 euros sound?

I like Gothitelle.

 

[Danpal65]

Does anyone know about this? https://www.thenerdmag.com/rumor-super-smash-bros-ultimate-leak-by-nintendo-employee/

Yeah seems wishlist-y to me. The fact that it mentions DLC at all is also kind of a deal breaker since they've said they are not even considering it until after launch.

Also, there is no way they could rig the animations and skeleton to both Rayman's and Globlox's models properly, meaning they couldn't be echoes.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Does anyone know about this? https://www.thenerdmag.com/rumor-super-smash-bros-ultimate-leak-by-nintendo-employee/

Fake. So many spelling errors, and who the **** is Globlox??

Also Rayman makes no sense as an echo

 

[Cutie Gwen]

This hypothetical makes zero sense too. "The guy made a bull**** story to hide where they actually got it" would mean they know significantly more than what they lead on to believe

I like Gothitelle.

Well you don't know what to put in your custom title

 

[MSmariosonic]

It's not the first time in smash a character borrows moves from another character of the same series

Sakurai might've been like "hey, I might as well add Richter as an echo fighter"

or i'm just wrong

 

[Schnee117]

I think Gwen needs to stop making bets she'll easily win. Go for something more daring.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Maybe I’m too slow but did anyone post these up?

Can I mention this beautiful DS Charge Shot into Ridley Final Smash combo?

It's beautiful.

 

[Danpal65]

Fake. So many spelling errors, and who the **** is Globlox??

Also Rayman makes no sense as an echo

Rayman's buddy apparently.

 

[Deleted member]

Does anyone know about this? https://www.thenerdmag.com/rumor-super-smash-bros-ultimate-leak-by-nintendo-employee/

Who's "Pitcher?" Seems strange that an employee would know the entire list except for what Pokemon is coming. I don't buy it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Who's "Pitcher?"

How can you not know the iconic main character from "Oh! That's a Baseball!"?

 

[Paperchampion23]

Except no, EVERYONE knows the 'main character first' meaning Simon would have been including, Chrom and Dark Samus were safe picks, especially judging from what Sakurai said. And Gothitelle is what kills it because should Gardevoir have some kicks, which I highly doubt it wouldn't have, Gothitelle would be unable to do the same. ALSO NOBODY LIKES GOTHITELLE
Don't make me go Mike Tyson on your sorry "If they completely change 90% of the moveset and then change the animations for it then it's still an echo" *** because at that point, only the specials would be the same. I am willing to make a ****ing money bet with you like I did with Blue that Bandana Dee wouldn't be an echo. How does 50 euros sound?

Lol. Except nobody knows if Richter Belmont was the original character (Again, Sakurai even teases who was the original character in the direct). The leaker never said Chrom.

You are making some pretty heavy, biased judgements about what you think the fanbase likes and doesn't like.

Did people like Pit or Palutena? Ice Climbers? Game and Watch? R.O.B? His logic is that Gothitelle would be an echo fighter of Gardevoir, an actual popular pokemon character. I am indifferent to the whole idea anyway.

And lmao, stop getting defensive or angry about somebody else's comments. I merely said I could see it. No he wouldn't have 90% of his animations changed. They'd actually all be the same as Kirby's with the addition of a polearm, and different specials. I'd be estatic about Waddle Dee being an original character and believe he should be. No, i'm not willing to bet for it, because I don't care about it. Its a damn video game lol. Relax.

Who's "Pitcher?" Seems strange that an employee would know the entire list except for what Pokemon is coming. I don't buy it.

Its Richter, the person who is writing definitely does not speak english as his first language (just read the article)

 

[Paperchampion23]

Delete post plz

 

[?????????????]

Does anyone know about this? https://www.thenerdmag.com/rumor-super-smash-bros-ultimate-leak-by-nintendo-employee/

The thing that makes me suspicious is Globox as a Rayman echo. That'd be kinda weird.

 

[Flynn__]

I really hope that Gardevoir appears as a Pokéball summon in the next demo so people can stop arguing about that "leak".

At least this leaker said which Pokémon is getting in. I love all those leaks where they talk about a Gen X rep but dang it I am not certain about which one so sorry teehee. Yah, you know the Gen but you don't know the Pokémon, okay. It's so funny.

 

[Deleted member]

How can you not know the iconic main character from "Oh! That's a Baseball!"?

Oh boy! Does he get RED DRAGMUNS and JAGGERS colors?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

This hypothetical makes zero sense too. "The guy made a bull**** story to hide where they actually got it" would mean they know significantly more than what they lead on to believe

Well you don't know what to put in your custom title

Fixed for relevancy.

Gothitelle would make a better Rosalina Echo with Solosis as a Luma Echo.

Gothitelle and Solosis...a winning combination.

 

[Mc.Rad]

How can you not know the iconic main character from "Oh! That's a Baseball!"?

I think they'll reveal Umpire as an Echo later on. You know, from "Oh! That's a Baseball 64!"

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think it is important to note that regardless of whether you think it is real or not if your argument is that it hasn't been deconfirmed it is a rumour and not a leak. The only time a rumour is a leak is if it is actually confirmed.

Sure, thanks for the reminder. It's basically a universally misunderstood word though at this point. I usually say "potential" leak, so my bad.

 

[Deleted member]

Gothitelle would make a better Rosalina Echo with Solosis as a Luma Echo.

Gothitelle and Solosis...a winning combination.

I'd actually be okay with this.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I'd actually be okay with this.

Because it’s an awesome idea. And awesome people like awesome ideas. Which makes you awesome.

 

[Paperchampion23]

The thing that makes me suspicious is Globox as a Rayman echo. That'd be kinda weird.

Why? He's exactly that in the new Rayman games.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I honestly think Gardevoir and Gothitelle would be super cool additions... I think that "leak" is bogus, but I wouldn't be upset having those Pokemon on the roster.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Lol. Except nobody knows if Richter Belmont was the original character (Again, Sakurai even teases who was the original character in the direct). The leaker never said Chrom.

You are making some pretty heavy, biased judgements about what you think the fanbase likes and doesn't like.

Did people like Pit or Palutena? Ice Climbers? Game and Watch? R.O.B? His logic is that Gothitelle would be an echo fighter of Gardevoir, an actual popular pokemon character. I am indifferent to the whole idea anyway.

And lmao, stop getting defensive or angry about somebody else's comments. I merely said I could see it. No he wouldn't have 90% of his animations changed. They'd actually all be the same as Kirby's with the addition of a polearm, and different specials. I'd be estatic about Waddle Dee being an original character and believe he should be. No, i'm not willing to bet for it, because I don't care about it. Its a damn video game lol. Relax.

Because Simon is the more iconic of the two, Richter isn't nearly as well-known as Simon
My mistake, but then it just means something else it was wrong about
Yes, Pit was actually a popular request to the point Sakurai talked about it. And yes, Palutena was a popular request? While those other 3 examples aren't popular requests, you're also forgetting one key detail. EVERY CHARACTER SHOWN OFF HAS BEEN A POPULAR CHARACTER. Gothitelle does NOT fit there

Sorry, I just get incredibly annoyed when I see people say the dumbest **** because you said "Just give him the spear and he'll still be an echo!" back then which makes zero sense. Just like how it makes zero sense to turn a character into a stone block and not use a spear outside of maybe one move despite only ever using spears and parasols

Why? He's exactly that in the new Rayman games.

Earth to Echo enthusiast: Globox doesn't have the same proportions as Rayman and Smash would give him more than like 3 attacks

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Perhaps the sequel to “Let’s go Pikachu” and “Let’s go Elves” will be “Let’s go Gothitelle”.

It’s the Year of Gothitelle, folks.

 

[Flynn__]

Did people like Pit or Palutena?

Actually Palutena was one of the highest requested characters before her reveal back in 4 speculation days. I remember when she "got leaked" in those images with Mario, people reacted with a lot of praise. The same when she got announced, although she was overshadowed by Pacman.

 

[Captain Fun]

Lol. Except nobody knows if Richter Belmont was the original character (Again, Sakurai even teases who was the original character in the direct).

I assume that comment wasn't meant to be taken so literally and is just a way of acknowledging some of the moves Simon uses debuted in Rondo/Symphony.

I can't really imagine a scenario in which they start designing Richter first and then go "Oh, well lets make this character the echo fighter and make Simon the main character."

What did Sakurai say in the Japanese version anyway?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Perhaps the sequel to “Let’s go Pikachu” and “Let’s go Elves” will be “Let’s go Gothitelle”.

It’s the Year of Gothitelle, folks.

You know Game Freak WOULD do this to spite a majority of Gen V fans

 

[Nap_]

Does anyone know about this? https://www.thenerdmag.com/rumor-super-smash-bros-ultimate-leak-by-nintendo-employee/

I could buy it because Dixie and Banjo BUT no WTF character. Neeext.
Also, Globox as echo could make sense because in Rayman all characters works in a similar way, like skins, but for Smash I don't see it happening.

 

[Deleted member]

I really don't think Rayman would even be able to have a clone when his whole gimmick would be centered around not having limbs

How can you not know the iconic main character from "Oh! That's a Baseball!"?

We're finally getting a Jojo rep? Thank god, it was about time.

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

I do wonder how many people would start liking Gothitelle if it does become a newcomer?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I really don't think Rayman would even be able to have a clone when his whole gimmick would be centered around not having limbs

We're finally getting a Jojo rep? Thank god, it was about time.

Are you forgetting Wii Fit Trainer again? smh

 

[?????????????]

Why? He's exactly that in the new Rayman games.

To me, it really comes down to how far we stretch the term "echoes." Yes, Rayman and Globox have identical playstyles in Origins and Legends, but the look of their moves is completely different, not to mention their height different.

Additionally, I'm unsure of how they would handle special moves. For instance, the "obvious" Rayman Neutral Special would be his iconic Telescopic Fist, where he launches his fist (or a projectile from his fist) forward. It doesn't make as much sense for Globox to do this since he has limbs (although he could just launch a projectile, which is not typical. Which is why I would find it a little strange).

 

[Deleted member]

Let’s go Elves”

Man, Pokemon keeps getting weirder :/

I could buy it because Dixie and Banjo BUT no WTF character. Neeext.
Also, Globox as echo could make sense because in Rayman all characters works in a similar way, like skins, but for Smash I don't see it happening.

Repeat after me: there's no such a thing as a WTF character.