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Yup, I'm Puertorican, so it's weird hearing it that way after practically using "el" pronouns for consoles daily.
The characters, hands down. I would've never played "Dragon King" as much as Smash, not even close. If Smash 4 took Wolf and IC without introducing Shulk and Robin/Lucina I would've never spent as much time with it as I have. I might've even skipped the Wii U version.
Introduction of DLC
Well, we probably will get one of the recent newcomers added, and nothing new. Either way, they definitely are not showing the whole roster. I doubt we will get too much of a change, honestly.
I’m not sure that the direct will be for the online service only, but I do think we’ll get a general Direct in mid-September.
I didn't really mean to imply that. I meant mainly about the online service. There will be other things as well, undoubtedly.
The reality is not everyone is willing to accept other people getting what they want compared to them.
I think Sakurai said in an interview that it was because they didn't have a complete character to port over from Brawl to build off of. Because of that, they would of had to remake him from the ground up, so he was harder to develop for than other veterans.
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Hope you like it!
How do you even say her name?
Green Check means I've played a bunch of it, thinking emoji means I've played it a bit but not too much.
Yeah, imagine Escavalier being aI don't know about you guys, but i think Feraligatr and Krookodile would be excellent echoes for King K. Rool.
echo too! 
Well it wouldn't be out of character for a Dark type pokemon to bring in weapons. It could work... maybe?I don't know about you guys, but i think Feraligatr and Krookodile would be excellent echoes for King K. Rool.
Krookodile throwing his sunglasses confirmedI don't know about you guys, but i think Feraligatr and Krookodile would be excellent echoes for King K. Rool.
Opossum
on getting your chance this time!
If I'm going to be honest, having "safe bets" on who will get in is an annoying thing to see, but I also find amusement at the grieving when no reveal is made. It's like I'm sadistic . . .I'm of the opinion that it's better not to "expect" anything. Not necessarily in the way of "lmao Sakurai is unpredictable, he's going to add a bunch of wacky characters!", but rather that we cannot pretend we know how the team chooses what characters to incorporate.
Before Ultimate's official E3 reveal, and even after it, I was convinced I knew what we'd be seeing, characters with prominent games on the Wii U, such as Elma, Captain Toad, and so forth, just like how 3DS / Wii U's roster focused on the Wii era (with a little bit of 3DS thrown in too). I expected the majority (if not all) of Wii U's roster to return, alongside Ice Climbers and MAYBE Wolf and Snake. I know I wasn't alone in that thought process.
We, as a community, tend to get stuck on an idea and then stick to it until it's proven or disproven. If it's proven, we brag about how we "guessed right" and use that as an example to push other concepts. If disproven, we either throw a fit that they'd introduce / ignore our option, or use it, again, as leverage to push other concepts.
My point, in my tired, caffeine-powered ramblings above, is that I think it's for the better that people show support for characters they want rather than attempt to predict the design ideologies of multiple different developers (because, no, while Sakurai works much harder than he needs to on this game and very well deserves some applause for the effort he puts into the series, he is not the only person dedicated to making this game the best it can be and the majority of the effort put in goes thankless or is credited to Sakurai).
Think about it. Ignoring rumors and leaks, the only addition I think could argued to be a lock would be Inklings, because of course they'd be in, they're Nintendo's big new IP that's taking the world by storm.
I think it's pointless to put so much faith into predictions for Smash, especially when it's just surface-level speculation without any thought put into the actual development of a game. I think it's much better to use outlets like social media, art, music, videos, essays, and so on to support a character rather than things like "well, due to sales, relevance during development time, and balance between franchise representation and a potentially unique moveset (nothing annoys me more than saying a character could be unique without actually showing how), I can say for certain we'll see this character otherwise I'll sacrifice my pet cat".
- While people were fairly positive Ice Climbers would come back, and to an extent Wolf, you cannot tell me anyone expected every single character, including Pokemon Trainer, Young Link, and Pichu, to return.
- Snake, despite being popular, had everyone thinking a big nope because Konami's evil or something.
- Ridley, a popular choice who was discounted by the team for 3DS / Wii U due to balancing / "too big", was then discounted by most fans because of that stance.
- Look me in the eyes and tell me, before E3, that people would be OK with multiple new clones with minimal differences. That people wouldn't throw fits over Chrom, Dark Samus, or Daisy, all being complete clones like Lucina or Dark Pit.
- Before Verge leaked Ridley and Simon, everyone had their eyes on Bomberman big time, as he was "the likeliest" second Konami character, assuming Konami even wanted to play nice. Don't forget Richter as a clone, something so unexpected even after the leak.
- King K. Rool. Just... King K. Rool. He is, by all means, a dead character. He hasn't had a prominent role in the DK series since Jungle Climber (a spin-off, nonetheless) on the DS in 2007 well before Brawl released. The only other appearance beyond trophies in Smash was as part of an ensemble of unlockable characters in a Mario sports game a year later. OVER TEN YEARS since he's been even slightly relevant. The only thing keeping him alive was Smash fans wanting him, and DK fans hoping for his return in some form. It's not like K. Rool is a prominent retro character like Duck Hunt or Pit that the team digs up from a pile of Famicom games and decides to revamp for fun, he's a character who Nintendo felt no need to push. He was added simply because he was so highly requested. Nobody can honestly tell me "well I expected K. Rool and you're just overgeneralizing" because there was literally no precedent or alternate reason to add K. Rool to Ultimate beyond fan support, and we all know that.
Where was I going with this again?
Oh yeah, congrats
Personally, I believes he pays extra attention to polls, even in the lower rankings.
I got the feeling that he was very popular when I discovered a few of these things about Skull Kid:
I honest expect nothing but a ported Golden Sun music track at this point. My expectations are that low.
Who were considered “Shoo-in” characters back in the day that didn’t make it?
Lucario was certain? That surprised me since I never supported him until that leak of him came out because I wasn't sure he would make it and thought Blaziken or Sceptile had a better chance
You'd be disappointed if Isabelle got in a unique fighter?
Pyra
notifying us about Nintendo playing Diablo III with a Skull Kid figurine.
We don't know if this source is credible, but it's interesting nonetheless.
This pretty much confirms what people have been suspecting about the ballot.
Actually I picked Zelda because it's my favorite series. Believe me if it was Yoshi I'd have NO trouble overrepresenting him
For me, predicting is still a lot of fun, and I do not see it as pointless. I love assembling things together that could lead to a newcomer's addition in Smash.I'm of the opinion that it's better not to "expect" anything. Not necessarily in the way of "lmao Sakurai is unpredictable, he's going to add a bunch of wacky characters!", but rather that we cannot pretend we know how the team chooses what characters to incorporate.
Before Ultimate's official E3 reveal, and even after it, I was convinced I knew what we'd be seeing, characters with prominent games on the Wii U, such as Elma, Captain Toad, and so forth, just like how 3DS / Wii U's roster focused on the Wii era (with a little bit of 3DS thrown in too). I expected the majority (if not all) of Wii U's roster to return, alongside Ice Climbers and MAYBE Wolf and Snake. I know I wasn't alone in that thought process.
We, as a community, tend to get stuck on an idea and then stick to it until it's proven or disproven. If it's proven, we brag about how we "guessed right" and use that as an example to push other concepts. If disproven, we either throw a fit that they'd introduce / ignore our option, or use it, again, as leverage to push other concepts.
My point, in my tired, caffeine-powered ramblings above, is that I think it's for the better that people show support for characters they want rather than attempt to predict the design ideologies of multiple different developers (because, no, while Sakurai works much harder than he needs to on this game and very well deserves some applause for the effort he puts into the series, he is not the only person dedicated to making this game the best it can be and the majority of the effort put in goes thankless or is credited to Sakurai).
Think about it. Ignoring rumors and leaks, the only addition I think could argued to be a lock would be Inklings, because of course they'd be in, they're Nintendo's big new IP that's taking the world by storm.
I think it's pointless to put so much faith into predictions for Smash, especially when it's just surface-level speculation without any thought put into the actual development of a game. I think it's much better to use outlets like social media, art, music, videos, essays, and so on to support a character rather than things like "well, due to sales, relevance during development time, and balance between franchise representation and a potentially unique moveset (nothing annoys me more than saying a character could be unique without actually showing how), I can say for certain we'll see this character otherwise I'll sacrifice my pet cat".
- While people were fairly positive Ice Climbers would come back, and to an extent Wolf, you cannot tell me anyone expected every single character, including Pokemon Trainer, Young Link, and Pichu, to return.
- Snake, despite being popular, had everyone thinking a big nope because Konami's evil or something.
- Ridley, a popular choice who was discounted by the team for 3DS / Wii U due to balancing / "too big", was then discounted by most fans because of that stance.
- Look me in the eyes and tell me, before E3, that people would be OK with multiple new clones with minimal differences. That people wouldn't throw fits over Chrom, Dark Samus, or Daisy, all being complete clones like Lucina or Dark Pit.
- Before Verge leaked Ridley and Simon, everyone had their eyes on Bomberman big time, as he was "the likeliest" second Konami character, assuming Konami even wanted to play nice. Don't forget Richter as a clone, something so unexpected even after the leak.
- King K. Rool. Just... King K. Rool. He is, by all means, a dead character. He hasn't had a prominent role in the DK series since Jungle Climber (a spin-off, nonetheless) on the DS in 2007 well before Brawl released. The only other appearance beyond trophies in Smash was as part of an ensemble of unlockable characters in a Mario sports game a year later. OVER TEN YEARS since he's been even slightly relevant. The only thing keeping him alive was Smash fans wanting him, and DK fans hoping for his return in some form. It's not like K. Rool is a prominent retro character like Duck Hunt or Pit that the team digs up from a pile of Famicom games and decides to revamp for fun, he's a character who Nintendo felt no need to push. He was added simply because he was so highly requested. Nobody can honestly tell me "well I expected K. Rool and you're just overgeneralizing" because there was literally no precedent or alternate reason to add K. Rool to Ultimate beyond fan support, and we all know that.
Where was I going with this again?
Oh yeah, congrats
Ridley, certainly. Geno had a legion prepared to die on their swords for him, worse than now in some ways. K. Rool was up there, as was Bowser Jr. (The Heroes vs Villains thing was passed around a lot.) One new Zelda character was thought to be certain. Mewtwo returning was something people were very confident of.
The Lucario vs. Mewtwo debate started with Aura Sphere vs Shadow Ball, and only got worse once Lucario was confirmed. If you want a case of two groups of supporters at each other's throats, I don't know if there was a better one. But I would say yes, people were very confident Pokemon would pick up a Gen 4 rep, and Lucario was huge at the time. The gen 3 debate was there, but again, IMO, people were more certain they would go straight to 4.
It's so hard for me to think that when I look at your signature . . .Actually I picked Zelda because it's my favorite series. Believe me if it was Yoshi I'd have NO trouble overrepresenting him
Lucario vs Mewtwo and Roy vs Ike were two of the dumbest things I've seen this place argue about for 6 years
Yeah, I feel it more important to represent my favorite character rather than my favorite series on this site.
We can only speculate on why, but I think it's pretty certain that when development reached a point where a character had to be cut to meet deadlines, it was decided that Mewtwo could be cut from the base game and then be used as the introductory DLC character, because Mewtwo's demand exceeded any character for Smash 4 bar maybe Mega Man and thus it was a surefire DLC hit while having him be the reward for owning both versions could also better encourage buying both.
