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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Poopyhead

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Are you actually serious?

The man can’t take posting a single thing without being bombarded with “OH THIS MUST BE A CLUE FOR SO AND SO” or “PLEASE ADD THIS CHARACTER”.

No it doesn’t mean King K. Rool is in, no it doesn’t mean something is going to happen, it means that the man has been working his *** off for the past few years to make Ultimate the best it can be and hard he has worked on the upcoming Direct.

That’s it. Don’t go reading too much into statements. It’s like how some people though we were getting nothing until October/November because they said it was “closer to December” and read too much into it, but look at this, we have a Smash dedicated direct in the upcoming three days, so there goes that.
To me it's more like how when Bayonetta was revealed, he said (or at least the translation said) "This is finally the climax," which is a Bayonetta reference. But, the difference is that the Bayo reference was subtle and happened seconds before she appeared on screen. So I highly doubt his tweet is a hint because it's Sakurai; I don't know why he would want any sort of expectations beforehand. It's just... it's impossible to rule it out as a hint right now lol
 

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Not sure if posted yet, but a post on gamefaqs is claiming some guy on 4chan predicted the Wednesday direct. Also hints at the reveal being springman

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76874638



Also apparently was posted in multiple threads too

Could be a faked image via photoshop but i have no idea how to check if a post is real or not on 4chan so idk. Maybe a lucky guess if real?
 
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Jetsurge

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perfectchaos83

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Not sure if posted yet, but a post on gamefaqs is claiming some guy on 4chan predicted the Wednesday direct. Also hints at the reveal being springman

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76874638



Also apparently was posted in multiple threads too

Could be a faked image via photoshop but i have no idea how to check if a post is real or not on 4chan so idk. Maybe a lucky guess if real?
Found them on Fireden, So they're legit posts
 
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Take your most wanted newcomer and turn them into an assist trophy. What would they do?

I'll start.

Joker
-Summons Arsene to use Eiha, which deals a small amount of damage (similar to the Lip's stick effect) and debuffs the opponents attack, defense, and speed.
Heihachi Mishima
He would just headbutt the opponent till the opponent is dazed.

Though best case scenario would be him throwing people of stages.
 
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osby

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So, just woke up. Wè have a direct this Wednesday, but anything else I missed?
 

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Take your most wanted newcomer and turn them into an assist trophy. What would they do?

I'll start.

Joker
-Summons Arsene to use Eiha, which deals a small amount of damage (similar to the Lip's stick effect) and debuffs the opponents attack, defense, and speed.
Chorus Kids
- Jumps around the stage to blast people off by singing in unison, either as a Taboo like wave or a hit dealing a small amount of damage.
 

Impa4Smash

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I have a fun challenge for you all. Imagine if newcomers were revealed in sets of 3, 2 Unique, 1 Echo, and there were 5 sets in total... The 1st was Inkling, Ridley, & Daisy. So there are 4 more sets... how and when would you like these characters to be revealed, & who would be in each set?
Set 1: King K Rool, Dixie Kong, Isabelle (Villager Echo)

Set 2: Simon Belmont, Skull Skid, Impa (Sheik Echo)

Set 3: Buzzwole, Ashely, Dark Samus (Samus Echo)

Set 4: Bandanna Dee, Chorus Kids, Chrom (Ike Echo)
 

Roberk

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I don’t want to use caps but please everyone for the love of Arceus stop using the term “rep”.

Characters don’t get in to just rep something. They do that by default. The term “rep” makes it seem as if Sakurai just decides, “Hey, let’s add Petey Pirahna because he’s a giant ****ing enemy and represents a game!”

That’s ****ing stupid.

We play this because it’s a video game. His job is to make the game fun. It matters more that the character is fun, not that they “represent” something. Base case scenario, they embody something from their game in their moves.

Really though, I HATE...HATE, the word “rep” because it just tears everything down and acts like this isn’t even a video game. It’s like it’s just “Nintendo history for $60” to some people, and if Smash was “Nintendo history for $60” it’d be probably the worst game on the planet.

Yes, that’s an exaggeration.

Remember when everybody thought a Final Fantasy “rep” would come in and “represent” the Nintendo history of SE and Final Fantasy. Wowie, that didn’t work out that way.

Remember when Snake got cut so we all figured 3rd parties had to represent games hat were “more Nintendo” and “not M-rated”? Some people did actually say that. Now look where we are.

Stop talking about reps, and more about fun stuff.

Not attacking people, attacking the term.

Again, I HATE the term “rep”.
Remember when Sakurai threw out "representation" to add a character that was fun? Yeah, that was Corrin. Promotion this promotion that, the point is that Sakurai knew that it was going overboard but justified it because he thought that Corrin was fun. It's the gameplay that people want, right?

Representation is a validation for some Smash fans. Whether that's good or bad, characters coming from certain games and franchises is part of what Smash is founded on. Smash isn't some game with original characters that are just hitboxes and movesets, it conjoins dozens of vastly different fanbases who want a slice of the cake. Sakurai tries to divide that cake as fairly as he can, but when he messes up people call him out on it. Actual representation means a lot to the Smash fanbase, while the word can be misused it does have a place when it comes to things that matter most to Smash.
 

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Spring-Man on Wednesday would be kind of disappointing to be honest. I hope we'd see at least one or two other characters with him.
 

perfectchaos83

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Can't really rule out him just being a guy who saw the announcement a day early and guessing a newcomer rather than leaking a newcomer.
 

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Spring-Man on Wednesday would be kind of disappointing to be honest. I hope we'd see at least one or two other characters with him.
If it's a Smash Bros. Direct I could see them announcing one new character at the beginning and one at the end. However, I don't feel it's likely. Smash For's Smash Direct was a simple confirmation of a few veterans and then the 50-Fact Extravaganza was a breakdown of the different modes. I imagine it would likely lean closer to the latter considering we already know all the veterans.

If I'm being honest I think you should probably expect a breakdown of the modes, stages, items, etc. and then one new character reveal, MAYBE 2. Big maybe. I think it kind of depends on how long the Direct is going to be. If it's a whole 30 minutes then yeah maybe a second character is more likely. If it's shorter though I wouldn't expect all that much besides what I listed above.

Remember, hype responsibly.
 

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So I came back from DBFZ Fighters and I have to tell you, that match with Goichi and SonicFox was insane. Goichi got so angry at being in losers that he just demolished SonicFox at first.

But he LLLLOOOOSSSTTT... he was so close! That was great grand finals. There were also no announcements by the way for DBFZ.

I’m still recovering from that Smash Direct announcement from Melee’s finals at EVO and how it’s coming in 3 Days! I’m so excited!

How do you guys even find these?
Cooler was revealed, so that’s an announcement
Can master hand be an assist trophy?

I mean, in addition to being a boss, because it’s not like you’re going to use ATs on his boss fight anyway.
Baby Hand
 

Pakky

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Spring-Man on Wednesday would be kind of disappointing to be honest. I hope we'd see at least one or two other characters with him.
Just give me King K Rool, please...

Then at least I can breathe, though I must admit Ridley is relieving.

Though these Youtubers who are convinced *Rogersbase* that King K is owned by Rare need to do some research.
 
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BlondeLombax

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If it's a Smash Bros. Direct I could see them announcing one new character at the beginning and one at the end. However, I don't feel it's likely. Smash For's Smash Direct was a simple confirmation of a few veterans and then the 50-Fact Extravaganza was a breakdown of the different modes. I imagine it would likely lean closer to the latter considering we already know all the veterans.

If I'm being honest I think you should probably expect a breakdown of the modes, stages, items, etc. and then one new character reveal, MAYBE 2. Big maybe. I think it kind of depends on how long the Direct is going to be. If it's a whole 30 minutes then yeah maybe a second character is more likely. If it's shorter though I wouldn't expect all that much besides what I listed above.

Remember, hype responsibly.
We got something similar in the E3 2015 & final Wii U/3DS directs, so it's likely. No telling what they've got planned, though.
Baby Hand
 

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A thing to note is we should have 3 PotDs after the Direct for this week.

I'm not saying that the Direct is going to drop 3 characters, but there's room for 1-3 reveals at the very least.
 

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I'm gonna throw out Isaac as my prediction for Direct. I stand by not expecting Heihachi and despite K Rool topping my "most expected", I agree with others that it'd make more sense to announce him at a later date. I'm also gonna predict either Ashley or Isabelle will be deconfirmed. I don't have anything against either, but I just have a gut feeling only one or another is getting in and this is the time someone is getting their AT shown off.

Also, I'm upgrading my Trophy-at-minimum prediction for Fatal Frame to AT, item, or music. But I don't expect that for Direct. Just was thinking about it and it keeps making sense to me for FF to get an upgrade from Sm4sh.
 

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A little controversial to say but with EVO going on I gotta ask what is DOA even anymore?

I mean does anyone even care about it?

Also for Wednesday, I'm thinking two newcomers and an echo.
 
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I can definitely see getting a newcomer and possibly an echo or second newcomer. Hope it does talk a bit about the modes; I'd like to see what we can do as single players.

I'm still putting Ashley down as my prediction. After Ridley, it seems like they'd want to give a popular-in-Japan character, and K.Rool may be a big end-of-speculation reveal. Hope to see a few more stage pics, though. There are loads on the wiki that are still just the monochrome backgrounds for characters (I want to see HD Gerudo valley!)

Also noticed there's a bingo card thread, so come post yours! Here's mine:
Ok, got my bingo card ready!

 

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I'd love to play as Springman in Smash, I really love the character design.

It's a shame I didn't like ARMS all that much...
 

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What do you lot plan on doing to kill time 'til Wednesday? I upgraded from my old Kyocera to an actual iPhone, and Fire Emblem Heroes be calling me.
Probably procrastinating making a stage for the contest, making me write up the description at 2:30 AM Thursday while exhausted.
 

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Not sure if posted yet, but a post on gamefaqs is claiming some guy on 4chan predicted the Wednesday direct. Also hints at the reveal being springman

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76874638



Also apparently was posted in multiple threads too

Could be a faked image via photoshop but i have no idea how to check if a post is real or not on 4chan so idk. Maybe a lucky guess if real?
The posts are legit.

It's also worth noting that the same file name also nailed Nintendo's E3 before it happened:
Screen Shot 2018-08-06 at 12.15.43 AM.png


Might be legit. Might be someone trying to ride the same guy's coattails.
 

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I dont care who we get, an eshop demo announcement is what I want the most
 

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Take your most wanted newcomer and turn them into an assist trophy. What would they do?

I'll start.

Joker
-Summons Arsene to use Eiha, which deals a small amount of damage (similar to the Lip's stick effect) and debuffs the opponents attack, defense, and speed.
Hmm well Isaac has dozens of elemental attacks, wields swords and axes, summons deities and djinns...

So he'd probably just shove you with a giant hand.
 
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