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A question that evokes the mind of safe bets and hard reads, me likey. Probably gonna repeat a few responses, but I think I can make a good enough fresh list with a big surprise. Also DETAILED RESPONSE ALERT.What are the 7-10 newcomers to the base roster that would make the game PERFECT for you, with the first being “I absolutely NEED them” and the last one being “I could live if they weren’t added but they’d be cool to see regardless”? Counting Echoes, not counting potential DLC candidates who were too late for the base roster (like Rex & Pyra or an ARMS character)
For me:
1. Elma
2. Bandana Waddle Dee
3. Simon Belmont
4. Chorus Kids
5. Chrom
6. Dixie Kong
7. King K. Rool
8. Isabelle
9. Isaac
10. Lloyd Irving
10. Literally any indie character (Shovel Knight / Quote / Shantae / etc.)
With my connections with these characters, I practically have none. I do see them get requested a lot, in terms of the western sides of things, but I really just don't see it since these characters (aside from Steve from Minecraft... if he's still indie?) still need to build up that big reputation in Japan. The only true indie character I would vouch for would be Reimu Hakurei from Touhou. It makes too much sense. 2nd biggest indie series? Check. Historic presence on the internet? Check. Fantastic music? Check. It literally has all the checkmarks and the moment I see a Hakurei Shrine stage with Nuclear Fusion, I'mma N U T. And since Sakurai is looking for legacy in some aspects, this 21-year old franchise deserves all the love. Other than that, if we get someone like Quote, I'd be fine.
9. Edelgard - Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Look. I know. We have too many Fire Emblem characters as it is and would put Fire Emblem up SEVEN characters. But honestly, with history given with Fire Emblem and representation, I'm expecting her in the base roster. With Melee, Roy for Binding Blade, technically Ike for Path of Radiance during Brawl, Robin and Lucina for Awakening when Smash 4 happened, and of course, a DLC slot going to Corrin for the American release of Fates. Would I be upset? Honestly a tiny bit, but Corrin proved to be good enough of a character that gave the respective franchise a breath of fresh air, and from what little footage we got of Three Houses, I got an Ophelia from Octopath vibe from Edelgard, so I wouldn't mind for a cleric-esque character. I don't think we've had one before? Overall, I wouldn't mind, we would get more banger Fire Emblem remixes and another stage (AKAENIA WHEN SAKURAI) but... I would've also preferred another option. It's a catch 22.
8. Another Pokemon representative (Pokemon Sun & Moon / Gen 8 / etc.)
I've dabbled with Pokemon a little bit here and there, my most time spent with it had to be Pokemon Diamond (DIALGA SQUAD, WHERE YOU AT). Personally, I've enjoyed enough of what I got when it comes with Pokemon content in Smash. Pokemon Trainer, honestly, was my first character I ever played when I got back from my Toys 'R' Us when I was a kid. Also, pouring one out for Toys 'R' Us. Loved the character combinations and Charizard I used the most to be cheap. Unfortunately, I have never played another Pokemon game since Diamond and really missed out on a LOT. Planning on getting back into it with Pokemon Let's Go! Pikachu/Eevee and generation 8, so what better time to get back into Pokemon than with another Pokemon rep? If Decidueye gets in, I don't mind really. Me? I'm a BIG Empoleon fan, so if we get our penguin boy, I'm set. I DO, however, expect at the very least, since generation 8 is still a ways off, a Sun & Moon Pokemon, and since I never played those games, I don't really know which ones I would prefer. But, the music is always a good beat to vibe with, so I'd be pretty alright with a Sun & Moon Pokemon going into Ultimate. ...Or I dunno, put in someone from Pokemon Rumble Blast, BOOM, 80 MILLION COPIES SOLD.
7. Undecided 3rd-Party character (Sora / Banjo-Kazooie / Crash Bandicoot / DOOM SLAYER / Amaterasu / etc.)
I would absolutely go INSANE for any of these characters, but the reason why I've put them all in one slot (aside from a few certain characters above) is because... I'm just undecided on what I want, which makes them much lower on the list. I've played Crash Bandicoot: N. Sane Trilogy, Banjo on the old N64, and DOOM 2016, and MAN, I know now why people ask for these guys for Smash. Their games are just so, SO good. Same goes for characters such as Sora from Kingdom Hearts, Amaterasu from OKAMI, hell, I'll even throw out FRANK WEST from Dead Rising. 2nd Snake? Let's get it, boyyyy. But... That's also a bit of the problem. These choices are such a dream team of epic proportions... I feel as if it just becomes so hard to choose. If any of these guys happen to get in, I'll be ecstatic regardless.
6. Balloon Fighter - Balloon Fight (NES)
I feel as if to continue the tradition of adding in classic retro characters such as R.O.B. and Duck Hunt, Balloon Fighter just makes too much sense. Mainly because of Iwata. I think to give one last send off and tribute to one of the most legendary video game designers and leaders, one of Iwata's most iconic games should get a spot on the roster. Ice Climbers have already proved enough that Sakurai can think of the most craziest things when it comes to a moveset. While I don't have much to mention of, I still love retro representation and feel as if this tribute to a damn good man is a fantastic choice.
5. Phoenix Wright - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney series
Now, when it comes to actual third-party characters I could really say "Oh, no doubt," it'd be Phoenix Wright. The series has had such an impact on the visual novel, puzzle, investigating genres, primarily known for being on the GBA and DS, even re-released on the Wii. From what I've played, the stories and characters can just instantly pull you into a universe that has stuff and tropes you might come to know, but puts it's own unique twist that every character and even NPC feels like you wanna talk to more and more. And the MUSIC? Now, I know that especially with this character that making a moveset for Phoenix could be all but impossible. But, thankfully we have Ultimate Marvel VS. Capcom 3 to thank for saving us the trouble. Sakurai could very much borrow a lot of the ideas that went into that moveset and put it into Smash Ultimate. And while this would be the third Capcom rep, I wouldn't mind at all. Especially if it's the finger pointing master himself. ...Also I just wanna see Phoenix's level 3 special as his Final Smash. Really badly.
4. Geno - Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Super Mario RPG will always be one of the most beautifully crafted pieces of art from a surprise conjoined collab from Square and Nintendo. The music, art-style and overall gameplay and story is nothing short of a masterpiece and makes you really feel as if you were a part of the Mario universe, alongside adding in so much DEPTH into the Mushroom Kingdom itself. And one of those additions, just so happens to be the doll we all know and love. There's a reason why Geno is still one of the most requested characters since the Brawl days, and how could you turn down this character, a Forest Maze remix and a Mario RPG stage? While yes, Geno would technically be the NINTH Mario character, I'd say that we can give Geno a pass for having such an extremely unique history, which is a step up from Dr. Mario and Daisy. Just imagine having the final smash being the Geno Whirl, and if you time it frame perfectly, it can cause INSANE damage and most likely an instant KO. While there could be much more other third party choices to choose from, Geno still can't be disregarded. He even had his own splash screen for his Mii costume, for God's sake! It's time we gave our doll the chance of a lifetime.
3. King K. Rool - Donkey Kong Country series
The kreme of the krop. The katastrophic monster. The KABSOLUTE U N I T. You know him well. A while ago, during the Wii U / 3DS era, I never really cared for King K. Rool being in Smash and preferred other characters. I knew about the demand, but couldn't really care regardless. Nowadays, I've sat through some Donkey Kong Country, especially 2, and honestly... I really do see why all y'all want him. We really do need some good villain representation this time around, and while Ridley is doing a real good job at doing such to start us off, that ain't gonna be enough. We gotta have our Kremling King. Imagine having a Ship Deck level with having remixes of Crocodile Cacophony, Gang-Plank Galleon, Mining Melancholy... Hell, I'd even take another Stickerbrush Symphony remix, because David Wise is THAT music of an artistically tune genius. Not to mention all of the various alternate costumes he could have with his pirate and laboratory outfits, and the overall play-style he could have; I feel as if this would be the Ridley + King Dedede of K. Rool, and I wouldn't mind at all.
2. Crono - Chrono Trigger
We got EarthBound. We got Final Fantasy VII. We got Xenoblade Chronicles. It... It just feels wrong to NOT include Chrono Trigger this time around, when it comes to some of the most iconic of RPGs in gaming history. This game practically SET the golden standard of what a Japanese role-playing game should be, and even in other departments in general for video game history for years and years. Music that can envoke emotion like none other? A intertwining cast of characters with an engaging story? What else could you ask for? I would say that Geno would be on the level of "OH MY GODDD," but I feel as if even if people nowadays might not necessarily know who or what Crono and Chrono Trigger is, the absolute mind melting reactions that people will have who played the SNES and RPGs in general will for sure make people break their shelves and cry for the fact that we would have a Corridors of Time remix while fighting on the time travelling airship through the pre-historic and futuristic eras as Geno from Super Mario RPG and Cloud from Final Fantasy VII. Just imagine the reveal trailer... A clock-hand ticking left and right, Crono and Marle playing on a music box and then out of a sudden, "SMASH BROS. X. CHRONO TRIGGER." A kin to Cloud's reveal, and just knock everyone's socks off with a remix of the intro music from the original game. The ideas are almost ENDLESS and the hype would be unpalpable. ...Also I wanna see Vinny from Vinesauce lose his absolute mind. And, come on. Would you really miss out on the chance for basically Rick Rolling people?
1. Rex & Pyra - Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Yeah. I'm gonna break the rules. Why? Well, I'm a ROGUE. EVEBERO, ROGUE, EVEBERO Also, one word:
Greninja.
If Sakurai could make a fully fleshed out newcomer just based off of drawings and concept art for Greninja when Pokemon X and Y were still in development, then the argument of "the game's too new" and "muh project plan" is out the window. Also look, I know there are people who like Xenoblade X, and you do you, but you already know there's gonna be outrage if they put in Elma over Rex & Pyra. Not having these guys in the base roster would probably cause more controversy than when Corrin was revealed for DLC. And hear me out.
Music from Xenoblade 2 remixed. Nia (also known as best girl) and Dromarch assist trophy. A travelling stage around Alrest.
A ZEKENATOR TROPHY.
Boom, you're good. Also Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is the greatest RPG this generation that just these simple words being "let's begin the experiment" can make it justified, so come on Sakurai. You know which pill to take, and I'll take those pills with you.
Greninja.
If Sakurai could make a fully fleshed out newcomer just based off of drawings and concept art for Greninja when Pokemon X and Y were still in development, then the argument of "the game's too new" and "muh project plan" is out the window. Also look, I know there are people who like Xenoblade X, and you do you, but you already know there's gonna be outrage if they put in Elma over Rex & Pyra. Not having these guys in the base roster would probably cause more controversy than when Corrin was revealed for DLC. And hear me out.
Music from Xenoblade 2 remixed. Nia (also known as best girl) and Dromarch assist trophy. A travelling stage around Alrest.
A ZEKENATOR TROPHY.
Boom, you're good. Also Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is the greatest RPG this generation that just these simple words being "let's begin the experiment" can make it justified, so come on Sakurai. You know which pill to take, and I'll take those pills with you.
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