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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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ThyCheshireCat

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Got bored so I did a new game based on the previous word association one:

A-Z of newcomers. We're in a parallel universe where 26 newcomer is feasible, but you can only have one of each letter. Who you pick?

A: Andy
B: Bandana Dee
C: Captain Toad
D: Dixie Kong
E: Elma
F: Fossil Fighter
G: Gooey
H: Henry Flemming(you're welcome Oppossum)
I: Impa
J: Jashin(and Doshin)
K: Kamek
L: Lyn
M: Meowth
N: Nikki(was a tough choice)
O: Octoling
P: Porky(although Paper Mario was close)
Q: Qbby
R: Ribbon Girl
S: Slippy Toad(Samurai Goroh was close)
T: Toad
U: Urobosa(not many U's)
V: Vaati
W: Waluigi
X: Xander(again not many X's)
Y: Yuga
Z: Zoroark (almost went for Zant but way too many Zelda newcomers)

What are yours?

A: Adeleine (Ashley was close)
B: Bandana Dee
C: Cranky Kong
D: Dixie Kong
E: Escargoon
F: Fossil Fighter
G: Galacta Knight
H: Heihachi
I: Incineroar
J: Jimmy. T
K: Kumatora (Sorry Kraid and K Rool but you'll get your chance another day)
L: Lanky Kong
M: Marx of course
N: I got nothing
O: Octavio
P: Porky
Q: Q-Bert
R: Rick/Kine/Coo
S: Spino (Fossil Fighters)
T: T. rex (Fossil Fighters or Mario, either works)
U: Can't think of anything
V: Viridi
W: Waluigi
X: Xurkitree
Y: Yooka-Laylee (couldn't think of anyone else.)
Z: Zero (whether Megaman or Kirby Zero is for you to decide)
 

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Hey we just hit over 100 000 posts. Time to celebrate!

 
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Rie Sonomura

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And now the Lil' Painter that can do all the things has her trailer in English.
Guess due to her and Marx I gotta go buy this now.
My babies!! :3

Also, I love that it subtly confirmed that Bandana Dee is the Waddle Dee from Kirby 64 :kirby:

At this point, Falcon isn't even an F-Zero character, he's just a Smash icon (much like ROB)
I like to think that Nintendo is aware of Falcon’s popularity thanks to Smash, even introducing outsiders to F-Zero (myself included) and they’re aware of the fan demand for a new game, it’s just...they’re having trouble delivering on those demands

ROB’s days are up for certain tho, and Ness and Lucas’s series is officially finished...though for the latter their legacy can live on through digital releases
 
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I can't understand a single word from that F-Zero song except for F-ZEROOO.
Well, he's clearly speaking English at least, I just can't catch every word.

"They left right out on the dangerous track, [starting scratch reprise] right in the valley of death, endless rise on the scenic desert, silent, [impersonal], [complete gibberish]"
 
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Rie Sonomura

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at this point i'm expecting someone from BEMANI to appear.
Something tells me that if we get Simon, BEMANI composers are guaranteed since Castlevania songs have gotten BEMANI remixes

i remember my BEMANI obsession days. brings back memories...
 

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Well, he's clearly speaking English at least, I just can't catch every word.

"They left right out on the dangerous track, [starting scratch reprise] right in the valley of death, endless rise on the scenic desert, silent, [impersonal], [complete gibberish]"
That last line is art.


I don't understand it at all.
 

KirbyWorshipper2465

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My babies!! :3

Also, I love that it subtly confirmed that Bandana Dee is the Waddle Dee from Kirby 64 :kirby:



I like to think that Nintendo is aware of Falcon’s popularity thanks to Smash, even introducing outsiders to F-Zero (myself included) and they’re aware of the fan demand for a new game, it’s just...they’re having trouble delivering on those demands

ROB’s days are up for certain tho, and Ness and Lucas’s series is officially finished...though for the latter their legacy can live on through digital releases
Kumazaki always delivers on the Kirby fan service.

I'd be fine with it if they added anyone new from F-Zero to the roster. I'd even take Mr. EAD at this point.

As fun as ROB is, I wouldn't mind too much if he got cut (though still a pity). May you soldier on, video game Johnny 5.
 

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Oh my god. This game is being REALLY good with song distribution, unlike Smash 4 which was nothing short of awful. To put it into perspective, F-Zero only had ANOTHER VERSION OF MUTE CITY as new music in Smash 4, so this is more than welcome, even better if it's the Daytona guy let's goooooo.

at this point i'm expecting someone from BEMANI to appear.
I'd be really down for some Nekomata Master or Jun Wakita honestly, I feel like they'd fit right in
 

SquashiniKun

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Something tells me that if we get Simon, BEMANI composers are guaranteed since Castlevania songs have gotten BEMANI remixes

i remember my BEMANI obsession days. brings back memories...
I'd be really down for some Nekomata Master or Jun Wakita honestly, I feel like they'd fit right in
I see i finally found some of my kind on this forum, i'm expecting to see FLOWER on Simon's stage. After all, it is the mascot song of modern BEMANI.


Tatsh, Ryu* And djTAKA tho
You guys forgot about Des-Row/D-Crew, DJ Yoshi-taka (It censored it), Seiya Murai, & TOMOSUKE.
 
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There needs be be a button input on the New Donk stage only performed with Captain Falcon.

If done correctly, he steals Pauline's mic and starts kicking at the band members, knocking over the drums, while he powers up his throat, belting out the vocals for his F-Zero song.
 
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Mc.Rad

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A NEW F-ZERO SONG AND ITS A INITIAL D LIKE SONG????


I NEED THIS GAME INJECTED INTO MY VIENS RIGHT NOW
 

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So here's a question.

You need to divide the roster into teams of three.

How do you do it?
:ultmario::ultluigi::ultwario:- Plumber Boys
:ultsamus::ultmegaman::ultrob:- Robotic
:ultfox::ultwolf::ultduckhunt::ultlucario:- Good Boys
:ultpeach::ultzelda::ultdaisy:- Female Royalty
:ultmarth::ultlucina::ultcorrin:- Dragon Slayers
:ultsnake::ultmewtwo::ultdarkpit:- Clones
:ultkirby::ultpacman::ultkingdedede:- Vore Club
:ultike::ultshulk::ultroy:- Friends Feelers
:ultbayonetta::ultcloud::ultmetaknight:- Don’t Trust
:ultpikachu::ultyoshi::ultdiddy:- Cute and Adorable but will Hurt You
:ultganondorf::ultvillager::ultridley:- Murderers
:ultlittlemac::ultwiifittrainer::ultryu:- Fighters of the Streets and Rings

Can’t thing of anymore trios, so...
:ultpit::ultzss:- The Ultimate Brother Sister Duo
:ultrosalina::ultfalco:- Space Heroes
:ultsonic::ultinkling:- 2 Cool 4 School
:ultrobin:ultpalutena:- The Planners
:ultness::ultlucas:- Ok
:ultbowser:- Pimp Daddy
 

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I see i finally found some of my kind on this forum, i'm expecting to see FLOWER on Simon's stage. After all, it is the mascot song of modern BEMANI.

I've been out of the Bemani loop for a while unfortunately, but I've been wanting to at least be up to date with Pop'n again...
Also my username is from the character in all Pop'n CS Innocent songs ahaha (Mutsuki), it'll never leave me I guess
 

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The main reason why people are upset that Ganondorf was/is a Falcon clone is because HE HAS been a falcon clone since melee. There's little reason to why he hasn't been flashed out yet since they had Brawl -> Smash4 to do it. Giving him a sword is a start.... even though his sword smashes are taken from other fighters (Cloud, Ike). Ganondorf is now a hybrid fighter of mostly Falcon with some touch of Cloud/Ike lol.
That's because people, like me, would be upset if he was changed. I couldn't ask for a better Ganondorf than the one in Ultimate. I like him the way he is now.

It's one thing when you give a character a new special or two, but removing the entirety of a character's move set is a disservice to fans of that character. It's pretty much the equivalent of cutting a character and replacing it. And that doesn't work for Ultimate's selling point of all previous fighters being available. Because we wouldn't be able to play as the Ganondorf that we've known for the past three games.

It's the same character, but it's not the same fighter.
 

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Here’s what I could find about Tethu btw:
http://ever-oasis.wikia.com/wiki/Tethu
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Character is adorable at least

But I doubt many people have even heard of the game so I doubt they’ll happen
Sadly, Ever Oasis didn't do so well in terms of sales, but I wouldn't mind getting Tethu/Tethi as newcomers. I also gotta get Ever Oasis when I get a chance.
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Got bored so I did a new game based on the previous word association one:

A-Z of newcomers. We're in a parallel universe where 26 newcomer is feasible, but you can only have one of each letter. Who you pick?

A: Andy
B: Bandana Dee
C: Captain Toad
D: Dixie Kong
E: Elma
F: Fossil Fighter
G: Gooey
H: Henry Flemming(you're welcome Oppossum)
I: Impa
J: Jashin(and Doshin)
K: Kamek
L: Lyn
M: Meowth
N: Nikki(was a tough choice)
O: Octoling
P: Porky(although Paper Mario was close)
Q: Qbby
R: Ribbon Girl
S: Slippy Toad(Samurai Goroh was close)
T: Toad
U: Urobosa(not many U's)
V: Vaati
W: Waluigi
X: Xander(again not many X's)
Y: Yuga
Z: Zoroark (almost went for Zant but way too many Zelda newcomers)

What are yours?
A: Amaterasu
B: Blaze the Cat
C: Cynthia
D: Dixie Kong
E: Elma
F: Fjorm
G: Gardevoir
H: Hector
I: Isabelle
J: Joker
K: Krystal
L: Lyn
M: Monster Hunter
N: Neku Sakuraba (TWEWY)
O: Octoling
P: Primarina
Q: Quote
R: Rex and Pyra
S: Sora
T: Tethu/Tethi (from Ever Oasis)
U: Ubosa
V: Viewtiful Joe
W: Wonder Red
X: Xiaoyu Ling (honestly prefer for her to be Tekken rep if we get one)
Y: Yu Narukami (IZANAGI!)
Z: Zero (Megaman Zero)
 

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I've been out of the Bemani loop for a while unfortunately, but I've been wanting to at least be up to date with Pop'n again...
Also my username is from the character in all Pop'n CS Innocent songs ahaha (Mutsuki), it'll never leave me I guess
I'm willing try out Pop'n & IIDX, but i'm worried that i might not be good at them. But i do enjoy the songs though, some of my fav composers are wac, TOMOSUKE, n' Des-Row/D-Crew.
 

ThyCheshireCat

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So here's a question.

You need to divide the roster into teams of three.

How do you do it?
:ultganondorf::ultridley::ultbowser: - Kings of death
:ultkirby::ultjigglypuff::ultpeach: - Power of pink
:ultkingdedede::ultmetaknight::ultmewtwo: - Not so evil
:ultfox::ultlucario::ultduckhunt: - Canine crew
:ultdiddy::ultness::ultmario: - Red caps
:ultyounglink::ultlink::ulttoonlink: - Linked together
:ultgnw::ulticeclimbers::ultrob: - Ye oldes
:ultmegaman::ultfalco::ultgreninja: - Bravery of blue
:ultdoc::ultzss::ultsheik: - Alternate forms
:ultwolf::ultbowserjr::ultwario: - Secondary naughties
:ultyoshi::ultpalutena::ultluigi: - Going green
:ultsonic::ultpacman::ultsnake: - Three of the third kind
:ultvillager::ultpichu::ultlucas: - Kids with power
:ultcloud::ultbayonetta::ultryu: - The three surprises
:ultmiifighters::ultmiifighters::ultmiifighters: - Mii fighters
:ultpokemontrainer:(:002::006::007:) - Gen wunners
:ultfalcon::ultlittlemac::ultolimar: - Brute knuckles (A Pikmin 2 reference)
:ultmarth::ultike::ultlucina: - Blue fire
:ultroy::ultsamus::ultshulk: - Red and ready
:ultdaisy::ultzelda::ultrosalina: - Pretty princesses
:ultpikachu::ultdk: -Left overs
:ultrobin:ultwiifittrainer::ultcorrin: - Monochromatic
I hope i didn't forget anyone.
 

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It really would have pacing issues though. Gym Leaders pretty much exist to be the "boss fights" of sorts. They're a gameplay function first and a story element second.

I'm not opposed to the formula getting broken up though. The thing is, I feel like S/M's set up already solved some of the issues you've had so far. They're just particularly powerful wild Pokemon that will be stronger than any of your individual mons at the time you face them, and you don't have to fight a Kahuna until you've made fairly decent progress in the game.
And they even had a couple Kahuna come back as elite four members to show you how powerful they really are. Not to mention US/UM's little fetch quest trial that has you fighting several Trial Captains really close to the end game.
And S/M does have some pretty decent challenges early game. Smeargle and Wishiwashi anyone? And with the whole S.O.S. mechanic combined with the fact that wild pokemon are generally at pretty high levels means that even a random encounter can turn out to be an unexpected threat.

Whatever they do with Gen 8, I hope they stick more to the Alola "league" structure than to the Kanto one.
Um, no Sun and Moon did not solve my issues at all. The Totem Pokemon were cool but pretty lame compared to gym leaders.

And in theory you could start off your journey focused on the evil team or whatever. Have the admins be the mini bosses up until level 20, which doesn't take long at all.

Just want to say your post was just you telling me things I already know and then "this game you played solved your issues." You don't determine that. I do. I'm confused how you typed that and expected me to not be confused.

Smeargle was a solid challenge as far as early game challenges go. That and Necrozma are about it.
 

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Well that was a nice track. Now to wait for another seven days for the next one to come out while speculating over the legitimacy of leaks and playing various Smash speculation games.
 
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