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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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SpiralGalaxies

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Although I understand that these "Leaks" are probably fake, every time I don't see any characters I really want in them they make me a little sad that my favourite characters might not be in.

I can't wait untill we get leaks similar to the palutena leak (Even though that turned out to be fake I believe),That was a fun one.
 
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Although I understand that these "Leaks" are probably fake, every time I don't see any characters I really want in them they make me a little sad.

I can't wait untill we get leaks similar to the palutena leak (Even though that turned out to be fake I believe),That was a fun one.
The thing with the Palutena leak is that it took actual effort in making models for both Mario and Palutena.

These are Smash Ultimate leaks. If you're looking for effort you've come to the wrong place.
 
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The thing with the Palutena leak is that it took actual effort in making models for both Mario and Palutena.

These are Smash Ultimate leaks. If you're looking for effort you've come to the wrong place.
We'll get there soon enough I think. That palutena leak wasn't made in a day! Probably.

Those days will be fun discussion days.
 

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If it's really Thanos' doing, it should be random. This is too formulaic.

FAKER.
I did a truly random snap (thanks to an online randomizer), and these 34 survived.

:ultdaisy::ultbowser::ultbowserjr::ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ulttoonlink::ultsamus::ultzss::ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede::ultfalco::ultwolf::ultpichu::ultgreninja:
:ultfalcon::ultness::ultlucas::ultgnw::ultike::ultolimar::ultlittlemac::ultshulk::ultinkling::ultmiifighters::ultsnake::ultsonic::ultmegaman::ultryu::ultcloud::ultduckhunt:

Meaning these 34 were wiped out...

:ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdoc::ultrosalina::ultdk::ultdiddy::ultsheik::ultyounglink::ultridley::ultyoshi::ultfox::ultpikachu::ultjigglypuff::ultmewtwo::ultlucario:
:ultpokemontrainer::ulticeclimbers::ultmarth::ultlucina::ultroy::ultrobin:ultcorrin::ultwario::ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena::ultrob::ultvillager::ultwiifittrainer::ultpacman::ultbayonetta:

Now, it is perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
And now, to watch the sun rise on a grateful thread.
 
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I think that leak and the Rayman leak was some of the most effort I've seen in purposefully deceiving others, like ever.
Like, have you seen how people reacted about Rayman?


**** was wild. I was there for Ashley and Ridley chaos, but my hiatus began a little before Rayman popped up.
 

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What I'm trying to say is disliking something is not malicious. There is always going to be opposition and people need to get over it. That's just life. lol.
Of course, and nobody should be taking it personally. But saying that without providing an argument is just unnecessary and doesn't contribute anything to the discussion besides negativity. Aggressive or not, I feel like it should be necessary to defend your stance and not just list a bunch of characters that you don't want without context. If not, it's best just left unsaid. Why be a downer?
 

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Of course, and nobody should be taking it personally. But saying that without providing an argument is just unnecessary and doesn't contribute anything to the discussion besides negativity. Aggressive or not, I feel like it should be necessary to defend your stance and not just list a bunch of characters that you don't want without context. If not, it's best just left unsaid. Why be a downer?
I agree. Smashboards already negative enough as it is.
 

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I did a truly random snap (thanks to an online randomizer), and these 34 survived.

:ultdaisy::ultbowser::ultbowserjr::ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ulttoonlink::ultsamus::ultzss::ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede::ultfalco::ultwolf::ultpichu::ultgreninja:
:ultfalcon::ultness::ultlucas::ultgnw::ultike::ultolimar::ultlittlemac::ultshulk::ultinkling::ultmiifighters::ultsnake::ultsonic::ultmegaman::ultryu::ultcloud::ultduckhunt:

Meaning these 34 were wiped out...

:ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdoc::ultrosalina::ultdk::ultdiddy::ultsheik::ultyounglink::ultridley::ultyoshi::ultfox::ultpikachu::ultjigglypuff::ultmewtwo::ultlucario:
:ultpokemontrainer::ulticeclimbers::ultmarth::ultlucina::ultroy::ultrobin:ultcorrin::ultwario::ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena::ultrob::ultvillager::ultwiifittrainer::ultpacman::ultbayonetta:

Now, it is perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
And now, to watch the sun rise on a grateful thread.
Shulk still survived! "Today, we use our power to fell a god, and then, SEIZE OUR DESTINY!"
 
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Meanwhile, Olimar is stuck floating in the Subspace Realm, unable to get out.
 

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Another reason why I enjoy fake leaks? Morons like this who don't do the math and actually put some effort into the leaks, completely disregarding the littlest bits. We've been getting lots of juicy ones as of late, and there's bound to be more where that came from. Keep 'em coming, Monado boy! (But go at your own pace, yeah? Too much 4Chan and related sites can cause quite a bit of sanity loss.)
I isolate myself to /v/, so I haven't lost too much of my sanity. It's kind of nice being able to post without a filter though.

okay so he's just angry at gods again
Why couldn't Xenoblade 2 have voice acting like this? Adam Howden truly nailed the role of Shulk (and was a great twitter troll during Smash 4 Speculation). Instead we get this:

"Its kind of LOW to stab a MAN IN THE BACK! YOU BLOODY PSYCHOPATH!"

Can we get a Xenoblade 1 remake on Switch please?

I'd buy that game twice.
 
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Zelda's still alive there, we good.

the loss of all my other mains hurts though :(. R.I.P Lucina, Robin, Rosalina.
 
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Yoshii! Mario! Luigi! Pokemon Trainer! Rosalina! Pac-Man! Donkey Koooong!
...at least Olimar and Kirby survived.
 

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I did a truly random snap (thanks to an online randomizer), and these 34 survived.

:ultdaisy::ultbowser::ultbowserjr::ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ulttoonlink::ultsamus::ultzss::ultkirby::ultmetaknight::ultkingdedede::ultfalco::ultwolf::ultpichu::ultgreninja:
:ultfalcon::ultness::ultlucas::ultgnw::ultike::ultolimar::ultlittlemac::ultshulk::ultinkling::ultmiifighters::ultsnake::ultsonic::ultmegaman::ultryu::ultcloud::ultduckhunt:

Meaning these 34 were wiped out...

:ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultdoc::ultrosalina::ultdk::ultdiddy::ultsheik::ultyounglink::ultridley::ultyoshi::ultfox::ultpikachu::ultjigglypuff::ultmewtwo::ultlucario:
:ultpokemontrainer::ulticeclimbers::ultmarth::ultlucina::ultroy::ultrobin:ultcorrin::ultwario::ultpit::ultdarkpit::ultpalutena::ultrob::ultvillager::ultwiifittrainer::ultpacman::ultbayonetta:

Now, it is perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
And now, to watch the sun rise on a grateful thread.
Now that's a roster I can get behind. :troll:
 

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I think that leak and the Rayman leak was some of the most effort I've seen in purposefully deceiving others, like ever.
Like, have you seen how people reacted about Rayman?


**** was wild. I was there for Ashley and Ridley chaos, but my hiatus began a little before Rayman popped up.
SmashBoards during the Smash 4 Days seemed to be have as much s****y comments as 4chan sometimes.

Kinda want to see this place burn when we get a really believable leak come out of no where.
 
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All this talk about Shulk and Thanos made me whip up this old meme:
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Serious talk though, which Nintendo characters do you think could either defeat, or put up an actual fight against Thanos? Obviously the power of the Monado rivals, if not exceeds the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, and therefore Shulk could outmatch Thanos, but who else could do actually do it?
 
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All this talk about Shulk and Thanos made me whip up this old meme:
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Serious talk though, which Nintendo characters do you think could either defeat, or put up an actual fight against Thanos? Obviously the power of the Monado rivals, if not exceeds the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, and therefore Shulk could outmatch Thanos, but who else could do actually do it?
well lets see uh
shulk
giygas
maybe ness

that's all i got
 
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SmashBoards during the Smash 4 Days seemed to be have as much s****y comments as 4chan sometimes.

Kinda want to see this place burn when we get a really believable leak come out of no where.
You'll find that anywhere a large group of fans from different franchises (or even different sects within the same one) gather has more venom than 90s Spider-Man. Smash Bros. is the big daddy of all fanbase melting pots so our stew is made pretty much of 50% hype and 50% hate.
 

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All this talk about Shulk and Thanos made me whip up this old meme:
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Serious talk though, which Nintendo characters do you think could either defeat, or put up an actual fight against Thanos? Obviously the power of the Monado rivals, if not exceeds the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, and therefore Shulk could outmatch Thanos, but who else could do actually do it?
The only other character that I think can is Rosalina.

I mean Rosalina can literally create and destroy the entire universe if she wanted to, which is better than just destroying half of the universe.

She’s practically an all out god.

Unrelated, but I don’t want Shulk to be the sole representative of Xenoblade anymore. We need Elma and Rex/Pyra standing beside him.
 
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Zeraora automatically fails #2, as it doesn't even come close to copying Lucario's moveset; it obviously can't use Aura.
I'm don't really like the Pokemon, but, completely disregarding the barely-non-zero chance Zeraora has for inclusion, I believe that its lack of aura is a moot point even if it were to echo Lucario. This is because any aura effects/properties could feasibly be replaced with channeled electricity, and the aura mechanic you could probably be re-flavored as a feral-spirit deal or increasingly powerful charge.
When it comes to popularity, if I recall correctly, Mimikyu is more popular than Decidueye.
But unlike Gen 6, there's no clear winner here like Greninja.
Both Mimikyu and Decidueye have many things going for them and Gamefreak doesn't seem to favor one over the other.
We'll just have to wait and see.
I would't sleep on Incineroar. It's received a lot of attention lately and maintains its respectable popularity.
All this talk about Shulk and Thanos made me whip up this old meme:
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Serious talk though, which Nintendo characters do you think could either defeat, or put up an actual fight against Thanos? Obviously the power of the Monado rivals, if not exceeds the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, and therefore Shulk could outmatch Thanos, but who else could do actually do it?
In addition to those already mentioned, as far as Smash characters go I'd say Ganondorf and the EarthBound duo, off the top of my head.
 
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I isolate myself to /v/, so I haven't lost too much of my sanity. It's kind of nice being able to post without a filter though.


Why couldn't Xenoblade 2 have voice acting like this? Adam Howden truly nailed the role of Shulk (and was a great twitter troll during Smash 4 Speculation). Instead we get this:

"Its kind of LOW to stab a MAN IN THE BACK! YOU BLOODY PSYCHOPATH!"

Can we get a Xenoblade 1 remake on Switch please?

I'd buy that game twice.
I think the "you bloody psychopath" line was delivered well enough, but the scream beforehand was pretty awful.
 
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All this talk about Shulk and Thanos made me whip up this old meme:
View attachment 152543

Serious talk though, which Nintendo characters do you think could either defeat, or put up an actual fight against Thanos? Obviously the power of the Monado rivals, if not exceeds the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, and therefore Shulk could outmatch Thanos, but who else could do actually do it?
Mega Rayquaza.
 

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I'm don't really like the Pokemon, but, completely disregarding the barely-non-zero chance Zeraora has for inclusion, I believe that its lack of aura is a moot point even if it were to echo Lucario. This is because any aura effects/properties could feasibly be replaced with channeled electricity, and the aura mechanic you could probably be re-flavored as a feral-spirit deal or increasingly powerful charge.

I would't sleep on Incineroar. It's received a lot of attention lately and maintains its respectable popularity.

In addition to those already mentioned, as far as Smash characters go I'd say Ganondorf and the EarthBound duo, off the top of my head.
Shouldn’t Zeraora not having the aura mechanic allow it to be a Lucario echo?

I mean it’s a small change that can seperate him from his counterpart.
 

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I think that leak and the Rayman leak was some of the most effort I've seen in purposefully deceiving others, like ever.
Like, have you seen how people reacted about Rayman?


**** was wild. I was there for Ashley and Ridley chaos, but my hiatus began a little before Rayman popped up.
I went back and looked at the Ridley and Ashley videos too.

Oof, dude.
 

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I feel like any story mode would involve killing off like 90% of the roster so whoever directs a new Smash game gets to start over without fan expectations of 'X has to come back.'

Any plot that involves taking out Yoshi isn't canon in my books...
So needless to say, Yoshi would return because he was in the original 8. Lucky him.
 
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I feel like any story mode would involve killing off like 90% of the roster so whoever directs a new Smash game gets to start over without fan expectations of 'X has to come back.'
If it doesn't fool fans of a franchise that has actual plot like the MCU, why would it work for Smash?
 
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I went back and looked at the Ridley and Ashley videos too.

Oof, dude.
That Ridley stuff was total bull****. Sakurai should've announced him as a Stage Hazard the second after posting that PotD. It's like he thought that players would still be happy so long as Ridley showed up in some form period.

"Look, guys! If you attack him the most, Ridley will join your side! That's just as cool as if he were playable, right? Cuz he's not! :D"

The Ashley video I don't understand. Did Sakurai not say she was an Assist Trophy at first? It sucks that she wasn't playable, but people's reactions to it seemed a little over-the-top.
 

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If it doesn't fool fans of a franchise that has actual plot like the MCU, why would it work for Smash?
Just imagine the reactions if they tried it for Smash, people didn’t believe they’d go through with it and that they’d include the deceased characters anyway, and then they did go through with it. So much hope would be down the drain.

(Didn’t they show in the Brawl SSE that main playable characters can’t really die, anyway, though? I guess they didn’t test the maximum limits of how much of an impact a trophy can take, in the event that a trophied character’s trophy could theoretically break and thus result in the actual death of the character, but still.)
 

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I dunno about you, but it does hurt a little to see someone say that they don't want one of my favorite characters in Smash without explanation. I don't mind when you provide an actual argument behind your opinion, but when it's just "I don't want [your favorite character] to be playable in Smash" it makes me wonder whether they hate the character and why they'd like to deny us from playing them. That kind of negativity without providing an argument is just unnecessary.
Sorry, but that's your problem, not his. No one is attacking you for your opinion and no one has to like/or want any character you want in Smash. People can feel however they want about any character, and it's not your place to police us otherwise. Getting this defensive over a character is over the top and dramatic.
 
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Sorry, but that's your problem, not his. No one is attacking you for your opinion and no one has to like/or want any character you want in Smash. People can feel however they want about any character, and it's not your place to police us otherwise. Getting this defensive over a character is over the top and dramatic.
I'm not getting defensive over any character, I'm just saying that negativity is unnecessary and doesn't do anything but bring down the mood. We have enough negativity here. Yes, people can feel how they want, but you don't need to go posting about it. Now stop acting like I'm policing your opinions or being overdramatic; I'm not.
 
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That Ridley stuff was total bull****. Sakurai should've announced him as a Stage Hazard the second after posting that PotD. It's like he thought that players would still be happy so long as Ridley showed up in some form period.

"Look, guys! If you attack him the most, Ridley will join your side! That's just as cool as if he were playable, right? Cuz he's not! :D"

The Ashley video I don't understand. Did Sakurai not say she was an Assist Trophy at first? It sucks that she wasn't playable, but people's reactions to it seemed a little over-the-top.
Sakurai showed Ashley but didn't clarify what she was so he added that she was an Assist Trophy 10 minutes later
 
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