Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[N3ON]

Have you done Bandana Waddle Dee, Simon, Elma, or Dixie yet? I missed parts 1 and 2

I have made Dixie.

I love the Impa Is it cool if I use it in my sig?

Absolutely!

These are so cool! Which other ones have you done? is there a thread for this?

Thank you! Glad you like them. No thread yet, but maybe I'll make one.

Round 1
Round 2

 

[Impa4Smash]

So uh

I was thinking about that “9 newcomers, you’re welcome” list from earlier and decided to look up Beedle and well

Here he is.

I guess he’d be the resident joke character. Lethal, if played right. But that’s nevertheless an, um, interesting choice.

If Beedle got in over Skull Kid, Impa, Champions, even Tingle, I’d be pretty salty lol

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

>Skull Man
Aww yeah, Senoue's got good taste.

Kay so I had this thought while at work today. So many people bring up how the most important thing about Smash is the characters so here's a hypothetical scenario. Say we got a Smash game with literally every and any noteworthy video game character added to it. Picture all of your most wanted and all of everyone else's most wanted that originated from a video game, they're all in. Sounds perfect, right? But the catch is, the game uses the Brawl engine to a T. Basically no hitstun so combos outside of chaingrabs don't exist, lagless projectile spam runs rampant as does the aforementioned chaingrabbing, most recoveries are terrible and edgehogging is back, infinities are back too. For traditions sake we'll say MK is still top tier and dominates the whole meta. Add whatever music, stages, items, trophies, collectibles, modes and etc to this idea. Whatever you want but it still runs on the Brawl engine as it was released (so no modded versions like PM or Sm4sh).

Is that a better or worse Smash game than what we've gotten so far in the series?

Probably worse, by virtue of tripping coming back.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Round 3~

Who would you like to see next?

Sora.

S O R A

PLEASE

If Beedle got in over Skull Kid, Impa, Champions, even Tingle, I’d be pretty salty lol

If Beedle got in at all I'd be salty.

 

[Iridium]

>>>>>>>>>>>


but the worst newcomer is easily (cause =>>>>)

I'm sorry, but >>>>>>>>>>>, and =>>>>>.

I'm a controversial one.

 

[UberMadman]

Who would you like to see next?

 

[Murlough]

Kay so I had this thought while at work today. So many people bring up how the most important thing about Smash is the characters so here's a hypothetical scenario. Say we got a Smash game with literally every and any noteworthy video game character added to it. Picture all of your most wanted and all of everyone else's most wanted that originated from a video game, they're all in. Sounds perfect, right? But the catch is, the game uses the Brawl engine to a T. Basically no hitstun so combos outside of chaingrabs don't exist, lagless projectile spam runs rampant as does the aforementioned chaingrabbing, most recoveries are terrible and edgehogging is back, infinities are back too. For traditions sake we'll say MK is still top tier and dominates the whole meta. Add whatever music, stages, items, trophies, collectibles, modes and etc to this idea. Whatever you want but it still runs on the Brawl engine as it was released (so no modded versions like PM or Sm4sh).

Is that a better or worse Smash game than what we've gotten so far in the series?

Worse, the character select screen would be a nightmare.

Also, adding hundreds of characters doesn't save a ****ty game. If the game is bad it will fail, it doesn't matter who you add or how many. *looks at All-Stars*

I'm sorry, but >>>>>>>>>>>, and =>>>>>.

I'm a controversial one.

You need to find a corner to sit in to think about the blasphemy that you just typed up.

 

[Krysco]

>>>>>>>>>>>


but the worst newcomer is easily (cause =>>>>)

Entire Smash roster except for the promotional trio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I could hold this > key forever but you get the point)

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

I have made Dixie.

Absolutely!


Thank you! Glad you like them. No thread yet, but maybe I'll make one.

Round 1
Round 2

Okay cool, maybe just link the other posts when you post new ones then to stop repeat requests lol

Could you do Elma and Krystal please?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I have made Dixie.

Absolutely!


Thank you! Glad you like them. No thread yet, but maybe I'll make one.

Round 1
Round 2

Since MoonlitIllusion requested Elma, I’d like to see Bandana Waddle Dee and Simon Belmont c:

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Entire Smash roster except for the promotional trio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(I could hold this > key forever but you get the point)

I would choose those three over at anytime of the millennium (though of course I’d rather play Corrin and Roy than a good amount of the vets but still)

 

[Iridium]

Kay so I had this thought while at work today. So many people bring up how the most important thing about Smash is the characters so here's a hypothetical scenario. Say we got a Smash game with literally every and any noteworthy video game character added to it. Picture all of your most wanted and all of everyone else's most wanted that originated from a video game, they're all in. Sounds perfect, right? But the catch is, the game uses the Brawl engine to a T. Basically no hitstun so combos outside of chaingrabs don't exist, lagless projectile spam runs rampant as does the aforementioned chaingrabbing, most recoveries are terrible and edgehogging is back, infinities are back too. For traditions sake we'll say MK is still top tier and dominates the whole meta. Add whatever music, stages, items, trophies, collectibles, modes and etc to this idea. Whatever you want but it still runs on the Brawl engine as it was released (so no modded versions like PM or Sm4sh).

Is that a better or worse Smash game than what we've gotten so far in the series?

Wait. Where is the tripping? Wait, so we could have , & ? And playable Epona? Those chaingrabs would be hilarious.

 

[CannonStreak]

“Done some music” Jun Senoue’s been composing Sonic music since Sonic 3.


Jun Senoue, Tomoya Ohtani... I smell a new Sonic remix. Well... I hope.

Yeah, that is what I meant by some. I could have used a better word, but he hasn't done music for all games since Sonic 3. Either way, I hope we get a new Sonic remix, too, whether it is from him or another person.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I'm sorry, but >>>>>>>>>>>, and =>>>>>.

I'm a controversial one.

I can let none of the Corrins and Pits/Palutena parts slide

is just perfection compared to , while the love of x overcomes all in Kid Icarus/Smash

 

[Captain Shwampy]

all this work between sakurai and sega have been doing recently only confirmes my belief were getting another sega character

Its gonna be opa opa, space harrier, or arle

either way we we will get a space harrier remix and a splash wave remix

bless sakurai

BASED

 

[Krysco]

Wait. Where is the tripping? Wait, so we could have , & ? And playable Epona? Those chaingrabs would be hilarious.

Edited the post to mention tripping since admittedly I forgot about such a crucial and important part of Brawl's meta. And yeah, any of those are fair game. Can't guarantee they'll have chaingrabs though. They'd have to be lucky like all were

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Round 3~

Who would you like to see next?

These are awesome! Defintely requesting Mimikyu!

 

[Blargg888]

Let me ask a question to get some interesting answers. If you get could have 5 characters become top tier when SSBU comes out, who would you want to see? However, if that character has ever been top tier in Smash, on any official tier list, they do not count. For example, for me, I would like it to be , , , & .

These are my choices. I'd love to see PT and Shulk up at the top especially. Luigi and Pac-Man at least had some spotlight in Smash 4 before dropping off.

Also Toon Link.

It's easy to forget that Ridley is among the most intelligent creatures in the universe when he's brutally crushing your skull, impaling you and dragging your helpless body along a metal wall.

I feel like it's easy to forget a lot of things when your skull is being crushed.

 

[Iridium]

Spoiler: Assist Trophies?

Reddit surfing again. I found this case for playable Assist Trophies in doing so. Do you guys think maybe this could work? I say no unfortunately, but this would be nice to be honest.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Spoiler: Assist Trophies?

Reddit surfing again. I found this case for playable Assist Trophies in doing so. Do you guys think maybe this could work? I say no unfortunately, but this would be nice to be honest.

Anything to make Lyn playable

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Spoiler: Assist Trophies?

Reddit surfing again. I found this case for playable Assist Trophies in doing so. Do you guys think maybe this could work? I say no unfortunately, but this would be nice to be honest.

I think a better idea would be having a mode where you can pick an assist trophy before the match which you can summon in battle by building a meter or something, they wouldn't technically be playable but you'd get to use the specific character you want

 

[Pyra]

I, uh, meant which character would you like to see get a little icon like these, but I guess I didn't make that clear enough. ^_^;

Nice to know two of you have terrible taste though! ;P

I'm happy that my answer was still good even though it didn't answer the question. Lmao

Spoiler: Assist Trophies?

Reddit surfing again. I found this case for playable Assist Trophies in doing so. Do you guys think maybe this could work? I say no unfortunately, but this would be nice to be honest.

Woah, someone fleshed out an idea I had days after the E3 event. I wonder if I can dig up that Facebook post.

 

[Idon]

Spoiler: Assist Trophies?

Reddit surfing again. I found this case for playable Assist Trophies in doing so. Do you guys think maybe this could work? I say no unfortunately, but this would be nice to be honest.

HAHAHAHAHA
no.

If you're going to make the assist trophies playable, make them an actual character. You can't half-ass fanservice of this magnitude.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Every Tuesday for the past 2-3 weeks we've gotten a new song on the website. I'm getting hyped figuring out what it could be.

Franchises I'd be hyped to see a song from: Xenoblade, Pokemon, Fire Emblem.

EDIT: Speak of the devil, there it is

 

[Zinith]

Every Tuesday for the past 2-3 weeks we've gotten a new song on the website. I'm getting hyped figuring out what it could be.

Franchises I'd be hyped to see a song from: Xenoblade, Pokemon, Fire Emblem.

I'm hoping for "Mechonis Field"

 

[Omega Tyrant]

They could've just said the ballot was only for future titles and just said 'here's Bayo' and there'd be no issue. And no, that wouldn't reveal Ultimate. They could just say 'for future titles'.

The thing is the Ballot was advertised the entire time as being for deciding Smash 4 DLC. If they came out and said they're making no characters from it but are saving it for future games, it would kill enthusiasm for Smash 4 and its DLC; fans would feel lied to/misled while there's no Smash Ultimate ready to be shown to make people happy, and Smash 4 would be left with an obsolesce feel to it as fans would be set to wait for the new Smash game (even if they don't outright state Ultimate's existence, ending the Ballot like that would imply a new Smash game is in the works). Smash Ultimate was still three years off and the Switch was over a year from launching, they still really needed to sell Smash 4 copies and DLC in the meantime and anything that could hurt the sales of such needed to be avoided.

Now why not state the Ballot wasn't being used for Smash 4 DLC in the first place? Probably because that was its original intention, but then partway through plans changed from continuing to support Smash 4 on a dead console to making an immediate new Smash game on the Switch, so they found themselves between a rock and a hard place on either tying up development in Smash 4 for another six months or so just to make one more character when Ultimate was ready to begin development, or just say Bayo won the Ballot "*Among realizable characters" and close out Smash 4 DLC with that.

 

[Iridium]

HAHAHAHAHA
no.

If you're going to make the assist trophies playable, make them an actual character. You can't half-*** fanservice of this magnitude.

The Waluigi fanboys would go nuts, but not for good reasons. Well, at least the crazy ones.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Round 3~

Isabelle, please. A happy, cheerful, sweet Isabelle. Thank you.

These are amazing.

Who would you like to see next?

 

[Superyoshiom]

Unfiltered Hype

 

[Deleted member]

Round 3~

Who would you like to see next?

Have you made Banjo?

Use this art:

Spoiler

Everyone always uses the Smashified art, but I've never liked the way it looks. It doesn't properly resemble the characters imo.

Oh, also, Ken Masters:

Spoiler

EDIT: Just saw round 2, and the site is being ****. Ken's art is his splash from Third Strike for the record.

 

[Putuk]

Unfiltered Hype

Please let Jun remix more things for this game.

 

[Bowserlick]

Make a ballot poll to create one or two Assist Trophies into a fighter by download.

 

[Pyra]

Unfiltered Hype

Awesome. I'm glad the new music for this game is consistently incredible.

 

[SquashiniKun]

Unfiltered Hype

This is some gud **** right here

also, did we ever talk about this?
https://twitter.com/gamingpuzzling/status/1016017222807048192?s=21

 

[Iridium]

I have made Dixie.

Absolutely!


Thank you! Glad you like them. No thread yet, but maybe I'll make one.

Round 1
Round 2

Is it possible that you could try Akuma from Street Fighter? He's probably not any more likely than Ken, but eh.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Worse, the character select screen would be a nightmare.

Also, adding hundreds of characters doesn't save a ****ty game. If the game is bad it will fail, it doesn't matter who you add or how many. *looks at All-Stars*

Yeah the characters are undeniably a huge appeal to Smash, but the gameplay is just as important, and Smash being such a great game gameplay-wise to go along with its amazing roster is one of the main reasons it became such a big and renowned series. Like the main reason Playstation All-Stars failed was because most people found its gameplay lackluster or outright poor; yeah having no Crash or Spyro or Cloud or other such big third party Playstation stars put a big damper on it, but the game would have probably still done well if the game itself was received better.

 

[Krysco]

The thing is the Ballot was advertised the entire time as being for deciding Smash 4 DLC. If they came out and said they're making no characters from it but are saving it for future games, it would kill enthusiasm for Smash 4 and its DLC; fans would feel lied to/misled while there's no Smash Ultimate ready to be shown to make people happy, and Smash 4 would be left with an obsolesce feel to it as fans would be set to wait for the new Smash game (even if they don't outright state Ultimate's existence, ending the Ballot like that would imply a new Smash game is in the works). Smash Ultimate was still three years off and the Switch was over a year from launching, they still really needed to sell Smash 4 copies and DLC in the meantime and anything that could hurt the sales of such needed to be avoided.

Now why not state the Ballot wasn't being used for Smash 4 DLC in the first place? Probably because that was its original intention, but then partway through plans changed from continuing to support Smash 4 on a dead console to making an immediate new Smash game on the Switch, so they found themselves between a rock and a hard place on either tying up development in Smash 4 for another six months or so just to make one more character when Ultimate was ready to begin development, or just say Bayo won the Ballot "*Among realizable characters" and close out Smash 4 DLC with that.

But from what I recall reading, with the belief that the data on 1.0.6 would've existed before it was released and with the requirements to get the rights to Bayonetta would that not mean she was already on the dev teams mind either right after, right at the time or even before the ballot was made available? Admittedly, I don't recall the timeframe between when the ballot was announced and when it first became available. If Bayo was going to be added regardless then they could've added her without mention of the ballot and I'm sure they could've added at least one character that did well on the ballot that wasn't Bayo. That character would've come after her and Corrin most likely but the dev team was still working on the game after those 2 came out what with the patches and all. Not to say that patching a character and making a brand new one take the same amount of work or require the same people but it could've been done that way.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

This is some gud **** right here

also, did we ever talk about this?
https://twitter.com/gamingpuzzling/status/1016017222807048192?s=21

Yeah that sounds like bull****, if they were part of the treehouse they wouldn't be allowed to just post that publicly lol

 

[KingBroly]

This is some gud **** right here

also, did we ever talk about this?
https://twitter.com/gamingpuzzling/status/1016017222807048192?s=21

I feel like the most believable part is the part I hate the most, which is the Metroid part. But Nintendo putting online in Yoshi? Eh...

 

[OdnetninAges]

Freakin' Spawn.
I'm done.

Ridley: Madam, I daresay you have offended me! *slaps Samus across the face with a white glove* We shall duel by pistols at dawn!
Samus: ... ...What?

I hope someone makes a comic of this.

Hey I know that guy who made that, I hung out with him for a minute or two this one time.

I hope to meet him someday. I'm still surprised he hasn't shown up at SXSW yet, but maybe next year.

Round 3~

Who would you like to see next?

These are great! Can you do Chrom please?