Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[KMDP]

If you think that was bad, take a look at this monstrosity of art:

Check out Lien-Da as she will be seen in THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES. pic.twitter.com/uR7LxtTNQP

— Ken Penders (@KenPenders) April 25, 2014

However, Tyson Hesse actually worked on the Archie comics before they ended, and currently works on the IDW comics, and we've been graced with artwork such as these:

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*sees Lien Da "Art"*

OH GOD WHYYYYYYYYYY!?

*sees Tyson Hesse Art*

Ah... ahh... thank god... Bless you, Tyson.

On the topic of Sonic the Comic's art, it actually started pretty mediocre, but eventually came into it's own. The comics that always had good art (after the art became good) were the main stories, the other stories each issue (they were anthology comics, they started with telling multiple different Sega stories, but Sonic and his stories inevitably eclipsed the production entirely) were more hit or miss.

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RE: Isaac

As far as most Isaac fans are concerned, Isaac is a now or never character.

Camelot is open to the idea of making more Golden Sun games, but they're also busy with Mario Sports games. Isaac getting into Smash might be the thing we need that brings Golden Sun back finally.

 

[Arcanir]

If anyone was curious:

Interviewer asks about Saukrai's favorite taunt

Sakurai:
[...] I do like Ridley's down taunt. When you use it, Ridley, for some reason, stands up straight, so you can actually see how tall he is. He's pretty big. He's about 4m tall.

Interviewer:
Well, he is a commander of the Space Pirates.

Sakurai:
And I have no idea why. He doesn't look like the... intellectual type. (laughs)

Well, that's kind of the appeal of the character. At first glance, you wouldn't think he's a smart character as he comes off more as a 'brute', but he actually is pretty cunning and can think on his feet at least enough to get his job done even if it isn't the most brutal option available. He may relish what he does, but that doesn't mean he can't be smart about it, otherwise he wouldn't even have any successes under his belt like stealing the Baby Metroid from under Samus in Super.

Of course, his emphasis on power and sadistic love of pain may be why he isn't the leader at the top of the Space Pirates. There's a reason why Mother Brain is the one who manages everything after the Zebes invasion.

 

[Zinith]

Camelot is open to the idea of making more Golden Sun games, but they're also busy with Mario Sports games. Isaac getting into Smash might be the thing we need that brings Golden Sun back finally.

Camelot used to do both sports AND RPGs simultaneously, even before being second-party to Nintendo. They just don't seem to have the same quantity (and some would argue quality) of output that they used to.

 

[Schnee117]

I do think this is Geno's best shot. His big obstacles are out of the way and third time's the charm.
With Golden Sun I don't even know if the right people are even still at Camelot for them to make one let alone the fact that Mario Sport games constantly do really well with minimal effort required to make one in comparison to Golden Sun

If you think that was bad, take a look at this monstrosity of art:

Check out Lien-Da as she will be seen in THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES. pic.twitter.com/uR7LxtTNQP

— Ken Penders (@KenPenders) April 25, 2014

Delete this

 

[UltimateWario]

When you use it, Ridley, for some reason, stands up straight

I like how Sakurai acts if Ridley was an actor and when told to taunt, he just stood up straight.

Like, "for some reason", Sakurai the reason is that your team programmed him to do that lol.

 

[NintenZ]

Camelot used to do both sports AND RPGs simultaneously, even before being second-party to Nintendo. They just don't seem to have the same quantity (and some would argue quality) of output that they used to.

Zinth does have a point guys, without the proper time and resources, or even the proper people they need, another game in the series may be harder for them to produce. Which is actually really unfortunate cause Dark Dawn actually sets up for something much bigger.

 

[Fenriraga]

You say that like I don't want him.


He literally says he's in at the end of the video. If you're not telling him to preach that, what are you making him preach?



Again, they're also mentioned in the video. All three simultaneously.

If you think that was bad, take a look at this monstrosity of art:

Check out Lien-Da as she will be seen in THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES. pic.twitter.com/uR7LxtTNQP

— Ken Penders (@KenPenders) April 25, 2014

However, Tyson Hesse (the guy who does the Sonic Mania animated trailers and stuff) actually worked on the Archie comics before they ended, and currently works on the IDW comics, and we've been graced with artwork such as these:

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Lordy, Penders is a mess. As much as I hate to lose the original series, at least the IDW run is doing well for itself.

 

[KMDP]

I do think this is Geno's best shot. His big obstacles are out of the way and third time's the charm.
With Golden Sun I don't even know if the right people are even still at Camelot for them to make one let alone the fact that Mario Sport games constantly do really well with minimal effort required to make one in comparison to Golden Sun

One could say Isaac and Geno are in the same boat.

 

[Iridium]

Let me ask a question to get some interesting answers. If you get could have 5 characters become top tier when SSBU comes out, who would you want to see? However, if that character has ever been top tier in Smash, on any official tier list, they do not count. For example, for me, I would like it to be , , , & .

 

[Zinith]

Let me ask a question to get some interesting answers. If you get could have 5 characters become top tier when SSBU comes out, who would you want to see? However, if that character has ever been top tier in Smash, on any official tier list, they cannot count. For example, for me, I would like it to be , , , & .

Oh boy, I thought you'd never ask...

 

[Pyra]

I have irrefutable proof that Ridley is the intellectual type.

Spoiler: proof

I'm sorry for ever questioning it.

 

[UltimateWario]

Zinth does have a point guys, without the proper time and resources, or even the proper people they need, another game in the series may be harder for them to produce. Which is actually really unfortunate cause Dark Dawn actually sets up for something much bigger.

I have no idea where Dark Dawn was even going. You had technophiles and magic furries and magitech and tech that KILLS magic, Sol and Luna Psynergy (supposedly?)...the battle system was as great as ever but that game, man. I don't know, lot of weird choices there.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Yeah, but that doesn't guarantee it.
Nothing guarantees anything. And like I said probably like 200 pages ago, nobody deserves anything either. His default percentage of inclusion is higher from previous installments, yes, but that's out of default since most other heavily requested characters are already in. The only ones significant that aren't shown in the game already are K. Rool and Isaac.

One flaw though Isaac was cut all together in smash 4 but could be a sign they attempted to make him playable though

But face it geno got very high ground ever since sakurai said he actually wants geno playable and that square enix And Nintendo are getting along better yes nobody is guaranteed but geno is very likely

 

[Fenriraga]

I have irrefutable proof that Ridley is the intellectual type.

Spoiler: proof

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I'm sorry for ever questioning it.

It's easy to forget that Ridley is among the most intelligent creatures in the universe when he's brutally crushing your skull, impaling you and dragging your helpless body along a metal wall.

You know, like how all intelligent gentlemen fight.

 

[KMDP]

I have no idea where Dark Dawn was even going. You had technophiles and magic furries and magitech and tech that KILLS magic, Sol and Luna Psynergy (supposedly?)...the battle system was as great as ever but that game, man. I don't know, lot of weird choices there.

I have a feeling Camelot were trying to do the kind of thing that The Legend of Korra did in terms of setting.

 

[Pyra]

It's easy to forget that Ridley is among the most intelligent creatures in the universe when he's brutally crushing your skull, impaling you and dragging your helpless body along a metal wall.

After reading his notes, of course.

You don't need to convince me of anything, I'm just making fun of my initial mis-interpretation of what Sakurai said about him not looking like the intellectual type.

 

[P.Kat]

I am curious why XC2 is so disliked around here...on most other platforms (including Twitter) it seems to be the converse, people loved 2 but hated X

Don't know I found it to be amazing, I haven't played X yet hopefully it re-releases on the Switch so I can try it

I don't know how to use photoshop so....
Main: Palutena/Pichu
Secondaries: Sheik, Pokemon Trainer

Most wanted:
1. Mimikyu
2. Ashley
3. Elma
4. Viridi

Least wanted:
1. Rayman
2. Rabbids
3. Steve

MS Paint is your best friend... until it drives you crazy.

If you think that was bad, take a look at this monstrosity of art:

Check out Lien-Da as she will be seen in THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES. pic.twitter.com/uR7LxtTNQP

— Ken Penders (@KenPenders) April 25, 2014

However, Tyson Hesse (the guy who does the Sonic Mania animated trailers and stuff) actually worked on the Archie comics before they ended, and currently works on the IDW comics, and we've been graced with artwork such as these:

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AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGG MY EYES! MY EYES! WHY? KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

 

[KMDP]

You know, like how all intelligent gentlemen fight.

Ridley: Madam, I daresay you have offended me! *slaps Samus across the face with a white glove* We shall duel by pistols at dawn!
Samus: ... ...What?

 

[DoctorSanity]

I have irrefutable proof that Ridley is the intellectual type.

Spoiler: proof

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I'm sorry for ever questioning it.

This reminds me of that old tumblr post I put together:

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[True Blue Warrior]

I gotta admit, Dark Dawn had some pretty cool character designs like Sveta and Karis and I loved the individualised Djinn redesigns. Can't say I'm a big fan of the points of no return. On the other hand, I appreciate the fact the game referenced an advert for the first game via a summon.

 

[Iridium]

Don't know I found it to be amazing, I haven't played X yet hopefully it re-releases on the Switch so I can try it

MS Paint is your best friend... until it drives you crazy.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGG MY EYES! MY EYES! WHY? KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Seems like hideous art has found its way here pretty easily. In all seriousness, I break down when I see horrors like that.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Snip

DELETE THIS

Not happening until Nintendo lets camelot out of the basement where they make mario sports games


A little delusional part of me wants to believe he wasn't an assist cause he was planned to be playable, there was absolutely no reason to cut him but keep saki

Considering how, for a lack of a better term, 'meh' most of their games been as of late, I don't see them doing anything more than Mario Sports that at this point

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I have irrefutable proof that Ridley is the intellectual type.

Spoiler: proof

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I'm sorry for ever questioning it.

can read butcan't...what kinda teacher is?

 

[Deleted member]

If you think that was bad, take a look at this monstrosity of art:

Check out Lien-Da as she will be seen in THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES. pic.twitter.com/uR7LxtTNQP

— Ken Penders (@KenPenders) April 25, 2014

I wish I never seen that, because I think I lost a decade from my life expectancy from seeing that.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I wish I never seen that, because I think I lost a decade from my life expectancy from seeing that.

i lost a decade of my life and 5 brain cells.

 

[Murlough]

Let me ask a question to get some interesting answers. If you get could have 5 characters become top tier when SSBU comes out, who would you want to see? However, if that character has ever been top tier in Smash, on any official tier list, they cannot count. For example, for me, I would like it to be , , , & .

.....oh.

best timeline.

 

[DoctorSanity]

can read butcan't...what kinda teacher is?

For the longest time I thought Palutena was the stupidest person in all of Kid Icarus cause I assumed (like most people with even a grade school education) that Medusa was originally a normal person and Palutena just turned into this unstoppable hell beast as a typical Greek BS "punishment", since the game gave next to no indication Medusa was also originally a Goddess as well

 

[P.Kat]

Seems like hideous art has found its way here pretty easily. In all seriousness, I break down when I see horrors like that.

This abomination would sooner drive me to insanity than the sight of Cthulhu.

She looks as if she was born from a xenomorph.

Let me ask a question to get some interesting answers. If you get could have 5 characters become top tier when SSBU comes out, who would you want to see? However, if that character has ever been top tier in Smash, on any official tier list, they cannot count. For example, for me, I would like it to be , , , & .

... wait minute



Honorary mention goes to Zelda, Ice Climbers, Pichu, and Jigglypuff (we know they deserve top tier most)

 

[Noipoi]

I had just forgotten about Penders and his abominations.

WHY?

WHY DID YOU REMIND ME?

 

[CannonStreak]

Mega Man 4 Medley is up.

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/sound/index.html

 

[Iridium]

Mega Man 4 Medley is up.

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/sound/index.html

Mega Man easily has some of the best music in Smash, as well as most nostalgic. It makes me want to play the classics.

 

[Wambo]

TerminalMontage animated a video about Geno's chances! Sums up all of the reasonings behind his possible inclusion nicely.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Mega Man 4 Medley is up.

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/sound/index.html

That's cool and all, but X medley when?

Btw ChikoLad , Jun Senoue did this medley :eyes:

 

[CannonStreak]

Mega Man easily has some of the best music in Smash, as well as most nostalgic. It makes me want to play the classics.

Yeah, I agree. Not to mention, the music is by Jun Senoue. If you don't know him, he is a member of a band called Crush 40, and has done some music for Sonic games.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

I love the fact that composers from other companies are remixing and remastering tracks from different companies. This could easily be the best Smash Bros. soundtrack ever.

 

[Iridium]

Yeah, I agree. Not to mention, the music is by Jun Senoue. If you don't know him, he is a member of a band called Crush 40, and has done some music for Sonic games.

Well, I know Crush 40, but I did not know that fact. Good to know! I want to hear medleys for each of the first ten games, but we will see.

 

[ChikoLad]

That's cool and all, but X medley when?


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Btw ChikoLad , Jun Senoue did this medley :eyes:

Hey I know that guy who made that, I hung out with him for a minute or two this one time.

 

[Iridium]

Hey I know that guy who made that, I hung out with him for a minute or two this one time.

Where? Was it a convention?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It's easy to forget that Ridley is among the most intelligent creatures in the universe when he's brutally crushing your skull, impaling you and dragging your helpless body along a metal wall.

You know, like how all intelligent gentlemen fight.

I mean, look at Vegeta. Highly intelligent, brutal as hell. Or Frieza if you want another one.

Ridley was never dumb muscle. The issue is Smash doesn't generally show off his intelligence. Even his taunts in his character trailer showed it off a bit more, with the Mario hat spinning and all.

 

[ChikoLad]

Where? Was it a convention?

Yep.

He's a cool dude.