The thing with Shadow is, and I know I'm going to make people groan when I say this, he straight up hasn't used the moves that Sonic uses in Smash besides the specials.
Sonic's moveset in Smash is literally mostly derived from his Sonic The Fighters moveset.
His forward tilt is his Horse kick:
Forward Smash is the Windup Punch:
His Fair is from Emerald Drive:
Up Air scissor kick is just Scissor Punch but with his feet:
He also had a lot of spin attacks in both Fighters and Battle, thus his 8,000 different spin attacks in Smash.
Ironically enough the one move that is taken from Battle is his Dair, which is from Shadow:
Sonic's fighting style in Battle and other games is basically Capoeira, a martial art that combines elements of dance and acrobatics. Even in Smash, that style is realized through his Down-Smash in 4 and Ultimate where he does the splits. Shadow
could do all of this in that there's nothing stopping Sakurai from making him an echo... it's just that he literally hasn't done any of that. Shadow doesn't fight with high-speed dance moves or wind-up punches, he manipulates and channels Chaos energy and even engulfs his fists with it, distorts space and manipulates space-time. He does this many, many times and has never displayed the bulk of the moves above or from Sonic's moveset in Battle. Shadow's only a clone because he uses Spin Dash, Homing Attack and Light Speed Dash, that's it.
The other day
viewtifulduck82
made a post about how we have to ignore lore because it doesn't matter in Smash
See here
And I
agree with that (besides "he has done everything Sonic does in Smash" and as you can see above he hasn't);
my point (and I wasn't sure if his comment was in response to me or not) about Shadow doing all those Chaos moves and having a different a fighting style in the games was
specifically in response to a user claiming that Shadow not having anything to pull from to make him different from Sonic and sharing
all his abilities, which are obviously false. I never said or argued he
could not or
would not be an echo, I actually expect him to be one if he is in the game as a playable character.
Easy. Neutral:
Dash Attack:
Up-Smash and Forward Smash:
Done. Use assets from Lucas' PK Fire for Chaos Spear.
Dark Samus definitely has unique abilities that Samus doesn’t. The problem with DS being an echo is that it can't use most of the equipment that Samus uses in her specials (Morph Ball, Screw Attack, the flamethrower, missiles, grappling hook, etc), Dark Samus uses unique Phazon powers like the ones present in its assist trophy. It can also use Phazon Pillar, Phazon Boost, Dark Echo and it can manipulate Phazon energy at will.
Watch this:
Shadow and Dark Samus are characters who should not be echos but you
know they probably would be.
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