Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[DaybreakHorizon]

At this point, I think 4chan knows you're cataloging these things, and now they're just makin' leaks faster than a rabbit can reproduce just so that they can get their fake **** in the "leak hall of fame".

It's hardly a hall of fame though. More like a hall of shame. Like, they're laughed at, catalogued, and that's it.

Also I doubt a lot of 4chan knows. Maybe some, but definitely not all of them. I know that Reddit knows about it though, so some people who are on both may know about it.

I was making a suggestion, since people bring up the "don't call it a leak!" idea all the time. I think the quotation marks are fine, but apparently not everyone does. I wonder if it's because quotation marks are often used (erroneously, in my view) as a means of emphasis rather than incredulity...

Also, I do appreciate DaybreakHorizon 's efforts. I can barely look at 4chan without my brain wanting to shut off. A public servant extraordinaire, this one!

Thanks, the praise is much appreciated!

How did I not think of that, the word was right on the freaking tip of my tongue...

Alright, so, from now on, these "leaks" will be called rumors until there is evidence of their validity.

I call them "leaks" because that's how they're presented: as actual leaks. I also believe that any "leak" could potentially be true and should be given the benefit of the doubt. I originally presented them straight as leaks, but at the request of some users began using air-quotes to designate that they're likely fake and should be taken with a grain of salt.

No, I will not change how I present them.

 

[KMDP]

It's hardly a hall of fame though. More like a hall of shame. Like, they're laughed at, catalogued, and that's it.

Also I doubt a lot of 4chan knows. Maybe some, but definitely not all of them.

They just want to make more work for you.

 

[PhantomShab]

A lot of people here love to **** talk 4-chan but that doesn't stop them from browsing the site to catalog every last fake leak posted there lol.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

A lot of people here love to **** talk 4-chan but that doesn't stop them from browsing the site to catalog every last fake leak posted there lol.

That is most definitely an insult. How does that contribute to the discussion at all?

Answer: it doesn't.

Stop playing fun police.

My work is for the sake of speculation, and for that sake I go to 4chan as most, if not every leak is posted there nowadays. I go there to spare others from the **** that people say there. You may not appreciate it, but other people do. There's no need to rain on their parade.

 

[OdnetninAges]

139.

I think we'll have around 250 by the end of July. Probably more.

Gotta catch 'em all.

 

[Will]

139.

I think we'll have around 250 by the end of July. Probably more.

Where's the catalog source even at? The post has to be massive by now.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Castlevania Season 2 premiers October 26th... wait a damn second!

*Rusty, screechy, gear sounds*

Castlevania Seaon 2 was originally slated for summer of this year. It got pushed back to October and has a set release date now.

Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS was slated for summer too! But *gasp* it ALSO got pushed back to October and got a set release!

Do you see what I’m saying? Do you hear me clearly? Are you picking up what I’m putting down? Are you smelling what I’m stepping in?

THIS MEANS BY LAW OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS THAT SIMON BELMONT IS 100% GUARANTEED CONFIRMED TO BE COMING TO SMASH ULTIMATE! NO IF’S, AND’S, OR BUT’S! IT’S HAPPENING!

Spoiler

****-post something incredibly stupid in the middle of a serious thread. Check!

Now onto making a fake leak featuring Shrek and Goku and then creating a remix out of the Lanky Kong verse from the DK Rap.

I should really go to sleep...

 

[Hinata]

Where's the catalog source even at? The post has to be massive by now.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AgeylUWp967Qz6g7mObIOn-mmCl2LBNg-3ssgZG2NY8/edit?usp=sharing

In tehponycorn's signature.

 

[Idon]

Castlevania Season 2 premiers October 26th... wait a damn second!

*Rusty, screechy, gear sounds*

Castlevania Seaon 2 was originally slated for summer of this year. It got pushed back to October and has a set release date now.

Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS was slated for summer too! But *gasp* it ALSO got pushed back to October and got a set release!

Do you see what I’m saying? Do you hear me clearly? Are you picking up what I’m putting down? Are you smelling what I’m stepping in?

THIS MEANS BY LAW OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS THAT SIMON BELMONT IS 100% GUARANTEED CONFIRMED TO BE COMING TO SMASH ULTIMATE! NO IF’S, AND’S, OR BUT’S! IT’S HAPPENING!

Spoiler

****-post something incredibly stupid in the middle of a serious thread. Check!

Now onto making a fake leak featuring Shrek and Goku and then creating a remix out of the Lanky Kong verse from the DK Rap.

I should really go to sleep...

Tell that to your Floating Vampire Jesus Gamedev

 

[PhantomShab]

I go there to spare others from the **** that people say there.

I hope this is a joke and nobody is actually that fragile.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Where's the catalog source even at? The post has to be massive by now.

It's in the spreadsheet. I only post the links though.

Edit: 'd on my own work by Hinata .

I hope this is a joke and nobody is actually that fragile.

Believe it or not, some people are. Some people are too afraid to venture into the primordial beast that is 4chan. Some just don't want to see the sort of stuff posted there.

Other people have different temperaments than you do. If you're able to handle it that's cool. But there are people that can't and that's cool too.

That's all I'm going to say because this is a thread dedicated to discussing Smash Ultimate, which this has nothing to do with.

Castlevania Season 2 premiers October 26th... wait a damn second!

*Rusty, screechy, gear sounds*

Castlevania Seaon 2 was originally slated for summer of this year. It got pushed back to October and has a set release date now.

Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS was slated for summer too! But *gasp* it ALSO got pushed back to October and got a set release!

Do you see what I’m saying? Do you hear me clearly? Are you picking up what I’m putting down? Are you smelling what I’m stepping in?

THIS MEANS BY LAW OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS THAT SIMON BELMONT IS 100% GUARANTEED CONFIRMED TO BE COMING TO SMASH ULTIMATE! NO IF’S, AND’S, OR BUT’S! IT’S HAPPENING!

Spoiler

****-post something incredibly stupid in the middle of a serious thread. Check!

Now onto making a fake leak featuring Shrek and Goku and then creating a remix out of the Lanky Kong verse from the DK Rap.

I should really go to sleep...

Hear me out:
Konami wants Simon's reveal to tie in with the premiere of Castlevania Season 2. It was originally slated for summer (maybe exactly to coincide with E3), as were the Ridley and veteran reveals.

Vergeben gets wind of this because it's all happening together and says Simon is coming to the game. He doesn't show up. Why?

Because Konami pushed back the reveal date.

 

[Idon]

I hope this is a joke and nobody is actually that fragile.

I've had people go off on me for using the word "man" as an interjection.

Anything's possible.

 

[Enderwoman]

Smash 64 had 5 stock matches.
Melee had 4 stock matches.
Brawl had 3.
Smash 4 had 2.

So, does this mean Smash Ultimate will have such annoying mechanics that we will have no choice to do 1 stock games to save time? hmmmm

 

[Impa4Smash]

I hope this is a joke and nobody is actually that fragile.

Regardless of fragility, does anyone really WANT to go to the dark depths that is 4chan?

 

[PhantomShab]

Regardless of fragility, does anyone really WANT to go to the dark depths that is 4chan?

I'd sooner go there than a place like ResetEra that's for sure.

 

[Will]

Smash 64 had 5 stock matches.
Melee had 4 stock matches.
Brawl had 3.
Smash 4 had 2.

So, does this mean Smash Ultimate will have such annoying mechanics that we will have no choice to do 1 stock games to save time? hmmmm

ZeRo mentioned that Nintendo is advocating for 3 stock matches with a 6 minute time limit.

 

[Androobie]

I'd sooner go there than a place like ResetEra that's for sure.

You clearly haven’t been to 4chan.

 

[Zinith]

I have the skin to go into 4-chan. The things they say don't bother me one bit...

In fact I find some of the things there hilarious...

 

[PhantomShab]

You clearly haven’t been to 4chan.

I have. People act like it's some kind of deep-web tier evil lair where just thinking about the place gives you every single kind of malware when really it's just contrarians and bait posters arguing over the same things every day.

It's you who seems like you've never been there lol.

 

[Will]

You clearly haven’t been to 4chan.

Why are you presenting it as such a big bad dark place? If you go to the main population of /b/ or /pol/, the most common places, then fine yeah it's just a cesspool of random things. Take those and the various porn boards away and you get just an anonymous posting board with board-related memes.

not as bad as people paint it out to be.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Another "leak," this one's about a Nintendo Direct mini. Says nothing really, but worth sharing regardless.

Spoiler: "Leak"

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/423433050
There will be a Nintendo Direct Mini near the end of July/beginning of August.
This presentation will start with FighterZ, talking about it a little and showing off Super Butoden, the pre-order bonus.
The next thing shown off will be the new Dream Friends for Kirby Star Allies, with some short snippets of game play.
After that is Pokémon: Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee, mainly showing off the single vertical Joy-Con multiplayer and advertising the PokéBall Plus.
The new Yoshi game’s delay will be discussed with little gameplay, a little worrying for Yoshi fans, as there still isn't even a name yet. This game’s development cycle still has a long way to go.
Mario Odyssey is also a topic brought up, with the release of the Rango and conductor outfits coming after the direct, with more to come soon.
The handheld capabilities of Super Mario Party are shown off next, with much of the footage being reused from the reveal trailer.
Before the Direct ends, we get a short montage of new and upcoming releases, leading to a Smash newcomer trailer.

 

[Enderwoman]

Regardless of fragility, does anyone really WANT to go to the dark depths that is 4chan?

is anime website

 

[Idon]

Honestly for raw discussion, 4chan's not bad. I used to post there quiiiite frequently. The only reason I don't know is that stupid captcha on every post.

YES, I AM HUMAN. STOP MAKING ME CLICK ON CARS.

 

[Androobie]

Why are you presenting it as such a big bad dark place? If you go to the main population of /b/ or /pol/, the most common places, then fine yeah it's just a cesspool of random things. Take those and the various porn boards away and you get just an anonymous posting board with board-related memes.

not as bad as people paint it out to be.

Point out one part of my post that remotely implies any of that. I’ll wait.

 

[Wambo]

Why are you presenting it as such a big bad dark place? If you go to the main population of /b/ or /pol/, the most common places, then fine yeah it's just a cesspool of random things. Take those and the various porn boards away and you get just an anonymous posting board with board-related memes.

not as bad as people paint it out to be.

It really isn't. But the site itself is a cluster**** when it comes to how it's designed. Sure, it's iconic and recognizable, but also confusing at times.
For most people, I'd say stick with Reddit, but with all the **** that's been happening there like edited posts and sketchy mods, anonymous posting boards seem like the better way to go.

 

[Will]

It really isn't. But the site itself is a cluster**** when it comes to how it's designed. Sure, it's iconic and recognizable, but also confusing at times.
For most people, I'd say stick with Reddit, but with all the **** that's been happening there like edited posts and sketchy mods, anonymous posting boards seem like the better way to go.

I never understood how to navigate reddit. I just set up my settings for 4chan boards and using the catalog + search is a breeze.

Point out one part of my post that remotely implies any of that. I’ll wait.

"Clearly haven't been to 4chan" as you agree with Impa's statement.

 

[KMDP]

I still don't agree that your (or the general consensus's) definition is correct without more evidence. I'm not sure why so many people need to think they KNOW what something DEFINITELY means. Language is ambiguous. Your understanding may be distorted. And with echo chambers like here, extrapolations and conjecture can become orthodoxy pretty quickly.

I have given it some thought, and this is my response.

This isn't a "Ridley/Waluigi is totally in the game, guys, look at all this evidence! (that isn't really evidence at all)", this is a case of "Sakurai has shown us three characters and told them they are an archetype unto themselves, what is it about these characters that separates them from their originals and what do they share as an archetype?"

• In the case of Lucina and Dark Pit, they were originally conceived as Alternate Costumes.
• They share the same size (or at least an approximate size with a difference so small as to be negligible) and weight as their original counterparts.
• All their attacks share the same animation basis, any animations that are different are entirely cosmetic (Peach looks away when Toad counterattacks, Daisy doesn't).
• They have a minor difference from their counterparts that changes the way they play very slightly (Lucina's tipper, Dark Pit's Arrows curve differently and his Electroshock Arm knocks people in a different direction to Pit's arm, Daisy's side Special knocking down instead of up).
• If they have one or more attacks that are entirely different from their counterpart (F.L.U.D.D. vs Doctor Tornado), they are no longer an Echo Fighter (otherwise Doctor Mario would be an Echo).

These arguments are not based on nothing, and they are certainly not based on ambiguous language.

Bill Trinen is not on the design team, he doesn't necessarily know what he is talking about; his Pills vs. Fireballs example was actually a bad one, because Dark Pit's arrows are just as different. If he had cited F.L.U.D.D. vs. Doctor Tornado, there wouldn't be a problem.

You could be entirely correct of course, though, so don't think I am rejecting your ideas. I am just agnostic on this whole thing, and find getting angry about it to be pointless.

I will admit I have gotten angry about this subject in the last few days, that was when I was tired and cranky; currently I am well-rested and quite calm.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Alrighty. Let’s drop the 4chan talk. Chatter about how other websites go about their businesses has nothing to do with Smash Ultimate.

 

[Androobie]

Didn’t see NonSpecficGuy’s post.

 

[ReeseBalaski]

EDIT: Never mind.

 

[Wambo]

EDIT: oof

We haven't got a blog update in a while. I wonder what's up.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Discussing leaks and rumors regarding Smash from 4chan is totally fine. Just try to keep it Smash oriented. It’s okay to diverge every once in a while but I could tell that this specific conversation wasn’t ending anytime soon.

 

[Zinith]

EDIT: oof

We haven't got a blog update in a while. I wonder what's up.

It doesn't update EVERY day, and it probably slows down because it's the weekend. We might get an update tomorrow...

 

[KMDP]

EDIT: oof

We haven't got a blog update in a while. I wonder what's up.

Sakurai realized that they were posting way too frequently and told them to cut it out. The blog team took his statement the wrong way and stopped posting altogether.

Honestly, I don't know.
EDIT:

It doesn't update EVERY day, and it probably slows down because it's the weekend. We might get an update tomorrow...

Actually, it might just be because it's a weekend. XD

 

[ReeseBalaski]

It has been a bit longer than usual for the blog to update next. I wonder what's up.

EDIT: Whenever it is, it should be soon. There's only been a 3 day wait at max. Unless something big is going on.

 

[Wambo]

Actually, it might just be because it's a weekend. XD

I didn't think about that. Whoops.

I really hope that July 9th Mini Direct rumor was true, though. A reveal soon would be nice.

 

[KMDP]

Actually, how was Robin and Lucina's trailer revealed? Was it in a mini direct? I can't really remember.

All I remember is that it was on July 14th 2014. XD

Incidentally, July 14th 2014 was a Monday, July 9th 2018 is also a Monday.

Guys we're totally getting another trailer~!
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*hides tin-foil hat in a bush*

 

[Pakky]

So I still believe my own crackpot theory anyone care to hear it?

 

[OdnetninAges]

Actually, how was Robin and Lucina's trailer revealed? Was it in a mini direct? I can't really remember.

All I remember is that it was on July 14th 2014. XD

They dedicated an approximately 2 minute livestream just for it, and announced it a week or so in advance.

 

[KMDP]

They dedicated an approximately 2 minute livestream just for it, and announced it a week or so in advance.

Thanks!

I do think it'd be really funny crazy if they just spring a new trailer on us on the blog tomorrow. XD