Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pakky]

She was censored in some of the old console releases of Fatal Fury it wouldn't be too hard to do.

But the jiggle though

Yes, unless Ingsoc has already gotten to me.

Mai and Ivy, sneakin' past the censors and fun police.

bosom buddies

 

[TMNTSSB4]

She was censored in some of the old console releases of Fatal Fury it wouldn't be too hard to do.

But the jiggle though

jiggles from some other other than Mario is a win

Yes, unless Ingsoc has already gotten to me.
Mai and Ivy, sneakin' past the censors and fun police.

Something Snake and Bayonetta couldn’t get sneak past

 

[Jedisupersonic]

But the jiggle though

I don't think she'd entirely lose the jiggle in smash it'd just be toned down.

She also has a lot of fun techniques so stop making me want Fatal Fury in my Smash Bros because I know it's not gonna happen.

As much as I wanna see Kirby with Mai's hair or Terry's Hat :< (I'd prefer Andy since he's my main in Fatal Fury and KoF but he isn't remotely popular compared to those 2 or the KoF leads so I can't even mention it).

 

[Cosmic77]

Cosmic77 A while ago, NantenJex of Source Gaming DMed memoryman3 on the matter and memory said Daisy, Waluigi and Boo amiibo data was all bugged in Wooly World. Apparently, he said every amiibo is listed as having multiple, but a glitch caused this to be missed on Daisy, Waluigi and Boo. Daisy was later updated in a patch to work with multiple amiibo but not the other two, which is odd. It is more of a lucky coincidence than pointing to Dee, as of now. So the amiibo theory is bogus.

I'll be a little more reserved with the Waddle Dee part since it presumably applies to all amiibo, but I'm not convinced that the Daisy patch was sheer luck. Doesn't really make sense for Nintendo to fix Daisy and not the other two, which leads me to believe the change was done because they knew that out of the three, she was the only one with plans for a new amiibo. If Waluigi was planned to have gotten a new amiibo, they likely would've patched him alongside Daisy.

Whether or not Bandana Dee is in Smash remains to be seen, but I'll keep an eye on this just in case. Even if said information came from the longtime Daisy fanatic memoryman, he was ultimately correct about a character none of us expected, and that's pretty impressive in its own right.

 

[KMDP]

Something Snake and Bayonetta couldn’t get sneak past

And Snake is a sneaking master!

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

Well explain why theres a Rayman Trophy sir.

wouldn't* oops lul

EDIT: No wait, I said it correctly. "I don't think Sakurai would ignore the outcry for Rayman"

 

[Murlough]

No, because Sakurai doesn't add fun large villains from anything except Zelda and Mario

Ridley.

Also no one answered my question. ;-;

Why do you like Rabbids? They just seem like the video game version of screaming children at Walmart to me.

 

[Luminario]

We already have that

It'll be funny in a depressing way if that actually happened cause it'll be the only reference outside of Jiggs' trophy to her Fairy typing.

 

[Enchess]

Ridley.

Ridley is one of Metroid's smallest villains if you think about it. Kraid, Metroid Prime, Phantoon (Other M version), and Queen Metroid are the real large villains.

 

[Murlough]

Ridley is one of Metroid's smallest villains if you think about it. Kraid, Metroid Prime, Phantoon (Other M version), and Queen Metroid are the real large villains.

If we are considering Ganondorf large I think we can consider Ridley large.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

If we are considering Ganondorf large I think we can consider Ridley large.

But are they as large as Gaston?

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

But are they as large as Gaston?

I dunno, are they roughly the size of a barge?

 

[KMDP]

I dunno, are they roughly the size of a barge?

Depends on how many dozens of eggs they eat.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

seems like Sonic and PAC-MAN still have their ****ty alts, rip

 

[Hidan]

But are they as large as Gaston?

Nope, he's nearly the size of a barge!

Spoiler

I dunno, are they roughly the size of a barge?

Damn it, 'd

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Speaking of Disney (amazing segue I know).

I feel like they're the main thing that'd hold Sora back if Sakurai ever considered him (well and SE being SE) which is sad considering I think Sora would fit right in with the cast of Smash. Even if he isn't my favorite of the Keybladers, he'd be very fun to see in Smash.

 

[Chandeelure]

Also no one answered my question. ;-;

Why do you like Rabbids? They just seem like the video game version of screaming children at Walmart to me.

The only Rayman game I've played is Rayman Raving Rabbids.

I loved it, and I think Rabbids are very cute and funny.

I also watched all the Mario + Rabbids cutscenes and I think Rabbid Peach is awesome.

 

[Hidan]

Speaking of Disney (amazing segue I know).

I feel like they're the main thing that'd hold Sora back if Sakurai ever considered him (well and SE being SE) which is sad considering I think Sora would fit right in with the cast of Smash. Even if he isn't my favorite of the Keybladers, he'd be very fun to see in Smash.

Agreed. I suppose I wouldn't be ultimately against Mickey in a OrgXIII outfit, but he didn't originate from video games so I'd prefer he not get in. Regardless I do agree that Disney is probably the reason Sora wouldn't make it in.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Agreed. I suppose I wouldn't be ultimately against Mickey in a OrgXIII outfit, but he didn't originate from video games so I'd prefer he not get in. Regardless I do agree that Disney is probably the reason Sora wouldn't make it in.

Maybe Sakurai and a Disney employee should get in an elevator together and talk about a crossover...

 

[Enchess]

If we are considering Ganondorf large I think we can consider Ridley large.

If we take Smash heights as canon for Samus and Link (Sm4sh for Link cuz TP), then use their games as canon sizes for Ridley and Ganondorf, can you make an argument that Ganondorf is bigger than Ridley? He's like twice Link's height for some reason and if we take Super Metroid (arguably most iconic Ridley) for Ridley he's also like twice Samus' height. Those are really rough estimates and put them close, so it wouldn't surprise me if a detailed analysis showed Ganondorf is 'too big'

(I'm mostly joking on this post and was mostly joking on the last one, please no one turn this into a real debate haha)

 

[Nani?]

Agreed. I suppose I wouldn't be ultimately against Mickey in a OrgXIII outfit, but he didn't originate from video games so I'd prefer he not get in. Regardless I do agree that Disney is probably the reason Sora wouldn't make it in.

Then again, maybe they can bring Sora in with no trace of Disney. I'm no copyright expert, but maybe...?

 

[Cosmic77]

Unless we're talking about the magnificent Rabbid Peach, I don't care whether or not the Rabbids get in Smash. I suppose they would make sense after the whole crossover thing, but I don't see myself getting excited for a possible reveal of a bunch of Minion-esque cartoony rabbits.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

seems like Sonic and PAC-MAN still have their ****ty alts, rip

>Floaties and Oven Mitts Pac-Man
>S****y

Choose your next words wisely

 

[KMDP]

Then again, maybe they can bring Sora in with no trace of Disney. I'm no copyright expert, but maybe...?

Unfortunately, I think Disney technically owns Sora?

 

[blackghost]

can someone make a thread so we can begin the discussion on this competitive stage situation? I think some of the "top players" will try to influence it so a lot of stages get arbitrarily banned. and unlike smash 4 customs i do not want "i dont want to learn MUs" to even be considered a valid point inevitable when it is said by someone.

ah ballot conspirators may you never die. you give me my daily supply of salt.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

No, because Sakurai doesn't add fun large villains from anything except Zelda and Mario

Tell that to Ridley

Unless you mean another large

 

[Jedisupersonic]

can someone make a thread so we can begin the discussion on this competitive stage situation? I think some of the "top players" will try to influence it so a lot of stages get arbitrarily banned. and unlike smash 4 customs i do not want "i dont want to learn MUs" to even be considered a valid point inevitable when it is said by someone.

ah ballot conspirators may you never die. you give me my daily supply of salt.

I can make it, but i'm not 100% sure of how the OP should look for such a thing.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

>Floaties and Oven Mitts Pac-Man
>S****y

Choose your next words wisely

Oven Mitts PAC-MAN is the only good alt PAC-MAN has.

All the floaties alts are ****ty.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Oven Mitts PAC-MAN is the only good alt PAC-MAN has.

All the floaties alts are ****ty.

I like the Sonic one that references the braclet from Sonic Adventure 1 but we need a new set of Sonic alts.... Cloud's colors look poorly done again too.

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

Speaking of Disney (amazing segue I know).

I feel like they're the main thing that'd hold Sora back if Sakurai ever considered him (well and SE being SE) which is sad considering I think Sora would fit right in with the cast of Smash. Even if he isn't my favorite of the Keybladers, he'd be very fun to see in Smash.

I think Disney and Square-Enix would allow Sora into Smash. However, they won't initiate that conversation-- it's up to Sakurai to make the request.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

And Snake is a sneaking master!

Not anymore. First Drax now actual video game characters are taking his crown

>Floaties and Oven Mitts Pac-Man
>S****y

Choose your next words wisely

Sonic alts 1, 2, 3, and 4 are good (his og style is still the best of course (too bad we don’t have a Metal or Boom alt though)

 

[blackghost]

I can make it, but i'm not 100% sure of how the OP should look for such a thing.

if its a goog topic that hasnt been discussed then it should be fine. stages change way less than characters and we speculate on those. why not dicuss something that will actually matter

 

[MasterOfKnees]

The lackluster Sonic, Pac-Man and Cloud alts are likely restrictions placed upon the Smash team by their respective parent companies, they want them to look as close as possible to their most iconic selves. Meanwhile Capcom lets Sakurai and co. straight up murder Mega Man in a trailer, so kudos to them.

 

[Enchess]

seems like Sonic and PAC-MAN still have their ****ty alts, rip

Blame Sega and Namco. I doubt this was Nintendo's choice. I believe Sakurai has mentioned that everything with 3rd parties has to get approved by them and I can totally see both companies being strict on color because of how iconic both of their colors are to them.

 

[KMDP]

Not anymore. First Drax now actual video game characters are taking his crown

Actually, I wonder what the new characters' Boxing Ring titles are?

Snakes' should be "The Best at Hide and Seek".

 

[Nani?]

Unfortunately, I think Disney technically owns Sora?

I may be wrong, but I beleive Square Enix owns Sora, and Disney owns a fraction of Kingdom Hearts. I could be completely wrong.

 

[Zerp]

can someone make a thread so we can begin the discussion on this competitive stage situation? I think some of the "top players" will try to influence it so a lot of stages get arbitrarily banned. and unlike smash 4 customs i do not want "i dont want to learn MUs" to even be considered a valid point inevitable when it is said by someone.

ah ballot conspirators may you never die. you give me my daily supply of salt.

Not sure if this is what you want but I think we kind of have it already here.

 

[CroonerMike]

So who's going to get revealed on July 9th bois and gurls.

 

[papagenos]

I'll be a little more reserved with the Waddle Dee part since it presumably applies to all amiibo, but I'm not convinced that the Daisy patch was sheer luck. Doesn't really make sense for Nintendo to fix Daisy and not the other two, which leads me to believe the change was done because they knew that out of the three, she was the only one with plans for a new amiibo. If Waluigi was planned to have gotten a new amiibo, they likely would've patched him alongside Daisy.

Whether or not Bandana Dee is in Smash remains to be seen, but I'll keep an eye on this just in case. Even if said information came from the longtime Daisy fanatic memoryman, he was ultimately correct about a character none of us expected, and that's pretty impressive in its own right.

Yeah i agree, I'm not completely convinced the amiibo data thing should be tossed out. i'm aware of its biased source but sometimes the obsessive are the ones who dig the deepest right? and there was no reason to add waddle dee if the person was just trying to push for daisy or falsifying information to push for daisy over waluigi... why tact on waddle dee?

I'm not pushing it as a 100% confirmation of waddle dee...but at the same time, since waddle dee is likely anyway, I have to say at the end of the day if we get waddle dee and daisy and no one else with a "single current amiibo" who will also get a smash amiibo (which if waddle dee got in would likely be the case) that this was potentially a legitimate leak of info regardless of its source.

 

[Enchess]

A

I may be wrong, but I beleive Square Enix owns Sora, and Disney owns a fraction of Kingdom Hearts. I could be completely wrong.

Nah it's the other way around actually. (Or at least I've been told so a dozen times on KH13 forums in the past)