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No I don't think so.
The only barrier to entry I can possibly see for Ashley is that Sakurai would have to come up with a whole new moveset for her, since I assume there's little to pull from from WarioWare in the form of attacks, and Sakurai doesn't seem to want to do that as much as back in 64.
Well, it's already been confirmed that Dark Pit's Final Smash is the same as Smash 4.
Really? Must've missed that.
Might be. Personally I'm still on the fence on TP Echo fighters, but who knows at this point.
Completely agree. On another site I had quite a discussion with a guy saying that KKR and Geno were guaranteed because they have been popular and requested for years, while characters like Bandana Dee, who also are incredibly popular and requested, are not going to get in because "they haven't been requested for as many years as them, so they crealy have less priority".
It's on his section on the official site.
Dark Pit still has his staff as his Final Smash, as mentioned previously, so I think that Final Smashes are out of the echo fighter equation entirely.
I don't think the heavily armored Black Knight would be very functional utilizing Ike's animations.
The only reason this has been the case up to this point is Marth hasn't really had an official English Voice actor up to this point. Now the same voice actor has been portraying Marth for a few different games now so it makes sense that his voice has become more recognizable to newer Fire Emblem fans. Roy's only voiced appearance from what I understand in English is Heroes so it possible he may remain the same.
My personal theory is the missing Final Smashes are just not finished yet animation wise. That said, I do think Peach will get a new one since everything seems to be quick kill move now. My unrealistic dream is she gets her exploding words from the beginning of Superstar Saga
Best case scenario: her wish attack from Paper Mario
I don't see any third party echoes as likely. Except Ken, because it's the most obvious thing to do with him.
There's no precedence for it, but I'd love Peach to have a Chain Chomp final Smash.
Peach's new Final Smash was going to involve her stuffing nearby opponents into her dress where her unlimited supply of Toads would viciously attack the players, but Sakurai had to change it because he knew the ratings boards would never accept it. They had to start all over again.
Thing is apparently Sakurai was even planning this back in Brawl, where in the unused files every non-main protagonist had an individual victory theme except Wolf, with even Mewtwo and Roy having one. Presumably because of developmental constraints though they didn't go through with it and for some reason only Meta Knight got one. I've been hoping they would revisit it (it can't take that long to make victory themes), but in Smash 4 only a few more characters got a victory theme unique from their series, while in Smash Ultimate it already been confirmed that there are characters who just have their series' victory theme.
Oh yeah. Almost all TP have an easy and obvious echo fighter.
Not relevant but can I just take a second to appreciate how good Pit (and by extension dark pit) look, like they look better than every other character in this game and I'm not even sure why
It's on the Smash Bros Website.
It is useful, just not to knock out people (unless they are high percentage).
I mean yeah, you can heal yourself with it, but even that's highly situational. If you're not high damage there's no point in using it to heal, because you just leave a bunch of giant peaches laying around for your enemy to heal with.
What are the chances that that's something that could be added near the end of development, if he's been wanting it for a while?
Yes, yes, they do. XD
I like Big Boss, but with Snake's beard and alts, I think he's already 'in', so to speak. Raiden might work.
We just argued about this last page. A Shadow echo is... complicated.
Unfortunately, Proto Man is already in Mega Man's Final Smash.
Works better as an Alph-style alt. (I mean... probably, right?)
Yes.
Same with Cloud, as with Pac-Man. Cloud literally bases his fighting style (and false personality) on Zack. An alt works better from a narrative standpoint. Zack could be an echo, but I think that'd be a waste of time. If an echo, the only change I can see is changing Zack's Final Smash from Omnislash to... ah, dangit I forgot what Zack's "-slash" move is called!
All true.
You know that never even crossed my mind. I was like yeah if Peach gets her same final smash Daisy will just have her move but with daisies...but that's not a healing food item lol.
While he does it a lot less there are still instances of it, specifically Rosalina who had a whole fighting style made from scratch for her based around her core identity (mother to the Lumas). So I think he could create a Moveset for Ashley based around the idea that she's a witch who would cast hexes. Either that or Skull Kid could get that concept.
Just thought another one: Venom Snake for Snake. Instead of the Nikita Missile he would use the Rocket Punch as his Side B. That would be hilarious.
Daisy could inflict the "Flower" status while putting people to sleep instead of generating peaches. The music used could be a sped up version of Daisy's theme from Mario Land.
Yeah, not saying it's impossible. With Ashley's apparent popularity in Japan, Sakurai might be willing to put the extra effort in.
How do I do that nothing working I hate changes?
Well part of that was a joke, everyone just looks at her like "Holy **** you can do that?that?" Why didn't you do it before"
Geno hasn't been "rejected" in the traditional sense. In Sakurai's own interview where he said he wanted him since Brawl, he didn't say Geno wasn't "good enough" or "not relevant enough", just it "didn't become a reality"; i.e. Geno is owned by Square Enix and thus he couldn't be licensed out. The exact words from the interview:
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I wouldn't underestimate how big the fan demand for Geno is though. I knew of him as "that one guy people want in Smash for some reason" years before I knew what Super Mario RPG was and years before I started looking at Smash specific forums. It's rare for a character in a niche game to become so popular that mainstream is aware of who they are.
I don't know why people even want Geno in Smash. He's a niche character from a SNES game that the general consumer doesn't even know existed. He also faces competition from Sora for the second Square rep, if there even is a slot for one.
Don't forget that, I don't think SMRPG even came out in Europe!
Expanding on this, Peach's music for the Peach Blossom is a hugely sped-up version of "The Sky/Warp Zone" from Mario Bros. I can imagine Daisy using this in her version if she had it. The song that plays every time Daisy/Fake!Daisy shows up in Super Mario Land, usually before being cut off.