Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[TMNTSSB4]

Sure, there are other ways that Sonic Forces could be referenced, but I doubt that a stage would work.

I guess when you think it over, a game's reception isn't always enough to determine if it should have a stage or not. But in the case of Sonic, maybe his newest stage should originate from Sonic Mania.

They managed to make Windy Hill a stage and that has some similar looks to Green Hill, so having a darker Sonic stage added into Smash or any of their more pimped out zones become a stage wouldn’t be hard to do (especially if they add someone like Shadow or Tails...or Amy)

Pokemon, Nintendo's biggest franchise

Unless you’re counting every single thing Pokémon has done (games, apps, movies, animes, merch, trading cards, etc.), I wouldn’t call it the biggest Nintendo franchise (that’s still goes to Mario)...though there’s also the part where Nintendo doesn’t fully own Pokémon.

...Then again, look at Dark Pit. He was hard to tell apart in 4

Unless you played Uprising and noticed the faces in Smash 4 that is

To be fair, Dark Pit was playable in the main game.

And that edgy jerk didn’t bother to help defeat the heart of Hades

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

They managed to make Windy Hill a stage and that has some similar looks to Green Hill, so having a darker Sonic stage added into Smash or any of their more pimped out zones become a stage wouldn’t be hard to do (especially if they add someone like Shadow or Tails...or Amy)

Considering how poorly received Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) was, any Sonic stage that has a dark and gritty vibe should probably come from Sonic's 2D adventures.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Part of me wants Metropolis Zone as a stage (Sonic 2) as I like the green (colored, not environmentally friendly) industrial aesthetic and now that hazards can be toggled, we can have ALL the annoying enemies show up. Mantises, Crabs, those ##### starfish.

Plus the music is MAH JAM!

 

[Deathcarter]

It's totally relevant. Last time Sakurai said Pokémon was his sole exception to his "never diverge from the project plan" approach.

Wasn't it Sonic who was the one who forced Sakurai to chance the project plan (back in Brawl) as opposed to Greninja where Sakurai had an future X & Y Pokemon slot reserved for at the absolute beginning?

Not disagreeing with your point btw.

 

[Will]

Since I had the cash money I went ahead and bought a Switch and paired it with Odyssey. Now I have the filler time to make up for December at least up until July when I figure out how to get used to Joycons. If I have even more spare chachings I'll get Breath of the Wild and Hyrule Warriors, not a real ARMS/Splatoon guy.

 

[EchoAegis]

I know echo fighters is the talk but can we get the return of break the targets this time around, please. Hopefully, melee style but if not still will be happy.

Man that music gives me memories every time

 

[MainJPW]

Considering how poorly received Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) was, any Sonic stage that has a dark and gritty vibe should probably come from Sonic's 2D adventures.

Plus the stages from Forces users usually suggest such as Sunset Heights/Park Avenue are just kinda bland to look at compared to a lot of other stages from the franchise. Like, y'know...stages from Mania.

I'd rather have something more vibrant, technicoloured and full of life. Just go for a Mania stage I say.

 

[Will]

I know echo fighters is the talk but can we get the return of break the targets this time around, please. Hopefully, melee style but if not still will be happy.

Man that music gives me memories every time

You're gonna get Target Blast and you're gonna like it.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

I know echo fighters is the talk but can we get the return of break the targets this time around, please. Hopefully, melee style but if not still will be happy.

Man that music gives me memories every time

I too want Melee's Break The Targets back, but I get the feeling with the giant workload Ultimate seems to have, I can't see every character getting unique stages unless they roll them out as free updates in the months after Ultimate's release; something along the lines of Kirby Star Allies' own schtick with new playable characters and what not.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Considering how poorly received Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) was, any Sonic stage that has a dark and gritty vibe should probably come from Sonic's 2D adventures.

Would be good enough as long as they bring “All I Am” and “All Hail Shadow”

 

[EchoAegis]

I too want Melee's Break The Targets back, but I get the feeling with the giant workload Ultimate seems to have, I can't see every character getting unique stages unless they roll them out as free updates in the months after Ultimate's release; something along the lines of Kirby Star Allies' own schtick with new playable characters and what not.

Oh yeah, I believe there is like a 1% chance of melee style targets happening but brawl ones were fine but make more than 5 levels and I'm game. Just get rid of the horrendous mode they called target blast, please

 

[Zinith]

I made a thread where you can give your opinions of the OG 12 outside of Smash. Maybe you can all finally get a full understanding of why I like Yoshi so much...

 

[Untouch]

I'd pay for DLC that has a unique break the targets and board the platforms stage for each character.

 

[Will]

I made a thread where you can give your opinions of the OG 12 outside of Smash. Maybe you can all finally get a full understanding of why I like Yoshi so much...

okay but where is it

I too want Melee's Break The Targets back, but I get the feeling with the giant workload Ultimate seems to have, I can't see every character getting unique stages unless they roll them out as free updates in the months after Ultimate's release; something along the lines of Kirby Star Allies' own schtick with new playable characters and what not.

I don't believe they would be that difficult to create, just time-consuming and tedious.

 

[EchoAegis]

I'd pay for DLC that has a unique break the targets and board the platforms stage for each character.

OMG board the platform as well how could I forget about that man. Even small modes like them are so much fun man, Smash Bros is special

 

[Murlough]

I'm not talking Octoling costume colors, I'm talking ink colors. @MoonlitIllusion did bring up a good point about colors, but I'm still skeptical.

While Rex may have concept art dating back to 2014, his game didn't come out until much later, and Sakurai would likely add Elma, the main character of the released and successful Xenoblade Chronicles X, instead of the unproved Rex, who's game wouldn't come out until much later.

Also I feel like Spring Man wouldn't be added late like Sonic as Sonic was a very special case. Unless Nintendo directly came in and said "add Spring Man," which I highly doubt they would as they let Sakurai do his own thing, he likely won't be in the base game.

In other news, another s***ty 4chan leak appears.

Spoiler: Leak contents

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/421544445
Newcomers: Poipole, Ashley, Elma, Tingle, Simon
Echoes: Dixie, Isabelle, Dark Samus, Octolings

Friggin' Poipole? I love it, but no chance. Even if the roster was determined in late 2016 Poipole wouldn't be relevant enough to compete with Lycanroc.....heck even Zereora has a higher chance.

I'm also not a gigantic fan of Dixie, Octoling, Dark Samus, and Tingle all in the same leak, but thats just me.

 

[Shroob]

Seriously though, July is going to suck for PotDs.

We're going to get 2 items/ATs/Pokemon we already know and 3 veterans for a solid 4 weeks before there's even a chance of a murmur of a Direct.


This is both the pros and cons of hype.

The Direct got us hella hyped, but now we're basically going to have an entire month of downtime.

 

[Zinith]

okay but where is it

https://smashboards.com/threads/whats-your-opinion-of-the-og-12-outside-of-smash.455902/
Have a look

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I too want Melee's Break The Targets back, but I get the feeling with the giant workload Ultimate seems to have, I can't see every character getting unique stages unless they roll them out as free updates in the months after Ultimate's release; something along the lines of Kirby Star Allies' own schtick with new playable characters and what not.

Yeah, I think the majority of the workload went into prettying up Melee, Brawl and 3DS stages.

There's a reason most 3D fighting games these days only have 9 stages tops and try to pass off a nighttime version as a different stage.

 

[Skyline1992]

What are peoples thoughts of Laboman being a playable character? I'd be pretty unique to have a character whose moveset is based around the joycon.

 

[Zinith]

What are peoples thoughts of Laboman being a playable character? I'd be pretty unique to have a character whose moveset is based around the joycon.

Cool? Absolutely!!!

Likely? Not sure

 

[EchoAegis]

What are peoples thoughts of Laboman being a playable character? I'd be pretty unique to have a character whose moveset is based around the joycon.

Ever see this before?

#laboman4smash pic.twitter.com/nErBUaBkEY

— Javed L Sterritt (@JavedLSterritt) March 19, 2018

 

[MainJPW]

What are peoples thoughts of Laboman being a playable character? I'd be pretty unique to have a character whose moveset is based around the joycon.

Like this?

 

[Will]

How bad would K. Rool fans feel if literal cardboard got in before him?

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I can’t wait to see compilation videos of the entire cast inked up in various colors of ink.

And no, there was nothing sexual in what I said.

Oh dear
I think alternative ink colors might be one of the first things people mod into the game.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

How bad would K. Rool fans feel if literal cardboard got in before him?

Wouldn't bother me at all, and I'm a K. Rool fan.

Laboman is relevant and ripe with potential.

K. Rool also has potential. What happens happens. Thing is, some characters just get in before others. I mean, many would think Ridley would get in before another version of Samus, but here we are.

 

[Skyline1992]

Yeah when I saw that gif I instantly fell in love with the idea of him being playable. I don't think hes in the base game at all but I can see him being DLC somewhere down the line. I've even seen some people say he can be an alt or echo fighter for G&W.

 

[Makai Wars]

K. Rool fans are already plenty salty as is lol

How bad would K. Rool fans feel if literal cardboard got in before him?

 

[Megadoomer]

How bad would K. Rool fans feel if literal cardboard got in before him?

I think it's possible to find a compromise. (or should I say, kompromise?)

 

[Lyndis_]

How bad would K. Rool fans feel if literal cardboard got in before him?

I'm not a K. Rool fanatic or anything (I do want the character as I love the DKC games) but I wouldn't mind.

There isn't much correlation between the characters or really anything in common, I don't think if K. Rool doesn't get in but Labo does, Labo not being in would give K. Rool any extra chance. I would be happy about Labo (although it's not happening because of the timing) on it's own merits of being a quirky unique fighter based off of another Nintendo toy.

 

[Octorockandroll]

I think by now its clear that if you see a new character announcement as an obstacle to getting a character you want rather than a cool new addition.

You're gonna have a bad time.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

How bad would K. Rool fans feel if literal cardboard got in before him?

Wouldn’t be worse than DBZ Goku getting in before Ridley did (so gladly that wasn’t possible...and maybe this is impossible...maybe)

 

[Ashuree]

I think by now its clear that if you see a new character announcement as an obstacle to getting a character you want rather than a cool new addition.

You're gonna have a bad time.

Sans confirmed.

 

[DarkFalcon]

I can't get over how good the character renders are in this game. Just comparing Lucina's render from the previous game to now is absurd.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

What are peoples thoughts of Laboman being a playable character? I'd be pretty unique to have a character whose moveset is based around the joycon.

It probably won't happen as base content, but DLC is a possibility.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I can't get over how good the character renders are in this game. Just comparing Lucina's render from the previous game to now is absurd.

Lucina having an amazing render will make some forget about the possibility in Laura Bailey being replaced by Alexa Tipton (reused voice clips or not)

 

[Zinith]

I can't get over how good the character renders are in this game. Just comparing Lucina's render from the previous game to now is absurd.

Smash 4 Yoshi still has a special place in my heart...

Showing his stuff...

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I think it's possible to find a compromise. (or should I say, kompromise?)

At least somebody would be included from DK64, for once.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Smash 4 Yoshi still has a special place in my heart...

Showing his stuff...

Dashie Approved

 

[Honest Slug]

Mario and Wolf could be polished up but the game looks great otherwise. The updated stages look fantastic now.