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To me, that's a problem.
Why would Elma be prioritized over characters who scored high in the ballot if that was planned to be the source for Ultimate's newcomers rather than just being put into Smash 4 as DLC like Corrin when her game was still relevant?
This. Not every Pokémon fan stopped growing up with gen 1. The six others feature wonderful critters which also have much to offer. Limiting oneself for an old generation because of some people stuck 20 years ago would be unfair to the other fans especially since the Pokémon Company caters to the Genwhunners already far too much.
Yeah. I don't need any more Gen 1 Pokemon playable. I'm completely fine with Let's Go's existence since Gen 8 is coming in 2019, but that's the main reason why.
I love that kind of thing, like how the Duck Hunt duo represent Zapper games in general, with Wild Gunman directly being in one of their moves.
I wasn't sure how much digital copies were accounted for and so I missed that. I will say I'm not sure how much of the western release of X will matter since it's so close to the finished project plan date.
but do we know if it's just going to be ballot characters though? Smash has always included fan favourites as well as characters that represent relevant games, I don't see why this game would really be any different tbh. I think you're setting your hopes a little high if you expect all the newcomers to be chosen just because of the ballot
And this also doesn't take into account the Wii U's comparatively much smaller install base at the time of its release compared to that of the Wii. Granted, Xenoblade by design is for more "hardcore" gamers, but it should still be noted that the wii had broken 67 million in sales by the time XC1 released, while the Wii U hadn't gotten past 10 million by the time XCX released.
Then how are they chosen? From what I see, it's the important and highly marketed characters that are put in
Ryce was going into detail on ResetEra in how 2015 and planned 2016 titles likely could have played an impact on the smash roster in addition to the smash ballot. One of the most popular Nintendo titles in 2015 was the Rhythm Heaven megamix, and Ryce seems to think it’s likely going to be the next new franchise represented.
That’s implying Bayonetta isn’t going to be nuked before launchIf this new info is accurate id say elma has a pretty good shot now. Xeno x launched in dec 2015 and game dev started feb 2016. But if shes not in the base dlc seems very unlikely. Just the akward timing and dlc chatacters will either hit character and fan hype or feed from nostalgia.
Not sure on king k chances. Part of me thinks its vocal fans. Not even sure when his last game appearance was.
Also from a game design perspective its a fat alligator.... so yeah. I dont care hoe fast he is in the games (see bayo, sonic, ryu, or robin characters get adjusted in smash) on smash he will be another big slower heavy. Not seeing moveset potential.
But if he does get in i 3xpect to see all.these king k fans online and as a bayo player ill eat you alive.
Pokemon newcomers are typically from the newer generations.
My counterpoint is that, just as Marth was added as the lead of a new series that had existed for several years in Japan, it makes sense that Shulk is only the first of multiple newcomers we should expect to see from the Xenoblade franchise over time.
It shouldnt matter what generation they are from as long as they are important to game freak. And as it stands, Meowth and Eevee are far more recognizable than any other pokemon in the series who are not in smash, and while Mew is not AS popular or marketed by gamefreak as the other two, it could still work as a clone of Mewtwo ala Link and Young Link.
I'd wager they are chosen without a Gen 1 filter for starters. There are heavily marketed and or popular mons in every generation.
Except it doesn't make sense to go with Elma over anybody who scored high on the ballot considering Elma had no western popularity to speak of when the project plan was finished. It made sense to put her in as DLC for Smash 4 while her game was still relevant but she wasn't while Corrin who's game released at the same timeframe did.
I like the way you think!
The way I understand it, Pokemon are the only Nintendo property that's more decided by Nintendo than by Sakurai. I think his bosses give him options, such as with Greninja, but basically require that one of their new heavily market Pokemon makes the cut. At least, in Brawl and Smash4.
No, Sakurai explicitly explains how they look at which pokemons are currently the center of attention in the games, anime, and movies, hence Lucario's inclusion in Brawl. As it stands, Meowth is always relevant thanks to the anime, and Eevee is relevant thanks to Pokemon Let's Go. Granted, both have already been confirmed as pokeball pokemon, but you get what I mean.
Meowth and Eevee are both confirmed to be Poke Ball Pokemon. They aren't making it in.
Out of curiosity, what's the coffin in that analogy? Like, are you done with the series, orrrr...?
... You know, that does bring up an interesting point. Are there any noticeable gaps in that massive piece of art? I know Ridley and Daisy didn't show up on it until after their reveals, of course.
A man can dream.
A man can dream ...
What reason do you have to expect only ballot characters? You have no evidence that Sakurai would overlook new characters when deciding who to include.
It would have made sense to include Elma then, but Corrin was from a series that had much more proven sales potential. Further, Corrin was a transforming dragon unit, something Sakurai wanted to represent.
I stopped after gen 4. And honestly, the argument that it's bad that they are pandering to Gen 1 makes no sense when Gen 1 pokemon are the most popular, considering that was the peak of pokemon's popularity, sans Pokemon Go's release, which brought Pokemon back into the public eye
This is the problem honestly. How can the series progress if they are trying to please only the people who aren't in it anymore?
L o w k e y, I would love to see an artistic representation of this. Proportionately, Rayquaza is so thin that to be shrunk down to that scale, it'd basically be a green hose.
I'd personally love to see Raiden as a playable fighter. I think he'd be a lot of fun.
