Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[DarkFalcon]

It's just she follows a lot of basic rules of "cute" character design:
-Big Eyes
-Light/Cute Voice
-Wants friends (in japan)
-Character is composed of simple shapes that can easily be drawn and understood by fans
-Young Girl who has issues with social interaction
-Twist is her magical properties which set her apart

I think she would be a fun smash character, question is if warioware can get another rep or not.

Also being publicly acknowledged by Sakurai is a bonus for any character.

 

[Shroob]

It's just she follows a lot of basic rules of "cute" character design:
-Big Eyes
-Light/Cute Voice
-Wants friends (in japan)
-Character is composed of simple shapes that can easily be drawn and understood by fans
-Young Girl who has issues with social interaction
-Twist is her magical properties which set her apart

I think she would be a fun smash character, question is if warioware can get another rep or not.

I would say yes, but at the same time, I'm very cautious about Assist Trophies.

Unless there's an actual hint that it could be happening, like Dark Samus, we really can't say for certain since, we're still missing roughly half of the AT roster.

 

[Murlough]

Sackboy Would Be Great For Smash but there's one Problem.

Sony and Nintendo are Rivals making Sackboy Even Harder to Put him in Plus he is a Playstation Character.

One More thing:Sackboy is Confirmed in Playstation All Star Royale Battle Making Him Impossible

Try joining the discussion instead of constantly suggesting new ones. Just trust me on this one. I don't think anyone here cares about Madden of all things.

 

[92MilesPrower]

Whoever said that Ashley isn't very likely is definitely underestimating her. She's had TONS of badges in the Nintendo Badge Arcade in different styles and such, unlike all of the other Warioware characters that aren't Wario himself:

This is just the very tip of the iceberg. Plus, she's also playable in Super Mario Maker to boot.

 

[DarkFalcon]

I would say yes, but at the same time, I'm very cautious about Assist Trophies.

Unless there's an actual hint that it could be happening, like Dark Samus, we really can't say for certain since, we're still missing roughly half of the AT roster.

We just get excited to see one of our favorites who happens to be popular not deconfirmed like a lot of other popular characters were at E3. Obviously it wasn't the final build with everything in it but it's exciting to survive the first wave.

 

[Will]

Come on guys, you're better than this.

 

[Playcube]

If Gyarados is In Smash Bros Here's its Special Moveset

Up Special:Surf

Down Special:Dragon Dance

Side Special:Dragon Tail

Middle Special:Roar

Final Smash:Mega Gyarados

I Know many People Think this a Stupid Idea.But this is My Dream Character

 

[Shroob]

Come on guys, you're better than this.

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I ****ing love it.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Mrs. Pac Man is definitely a problem IP wise. Simply put, the issue is (and I think I saw someone else mention this while I was browsing this thread) that Namco didn't create the character, their North American distributors Bally Midway did, and they took the core game from a student project called "Crazy Otto" which they purchased. A major problem that arose over time that eventually resulted in a court case that effectively toppled Bally Midway was that they were repeatedly coming up with unauthorized sequels. In hindsight it's easy to see why: Namco's Pac-Man sequels were each incredibly different from each other, like Super Pac-Man and Pac & Pal, with very different mechanics that moved away from the "formula" the first game created. It is very important to note that Namco begrudgingly made Mrs. Pac-Man an "official" entry in the series due to its overwhelming popularity, but they still were trying to do very different things in their sequels at this same time. In NA, this was not well received so Bally Midway created more samey sequels/upgrade kits like Pac-Man Plus, Jr. Pac-Man and even an arcade/pinball hybrid called/starring Baby Pac-Man (oh yes, and Professor Pac-Man). However these actions were never sanctioned by Namco, and they were (for better or for worse) successful at revoking the license.

That said Namco has had a very inconsistent history with the characters Bally Midway created. Indeed, Mrs. Pac-Man, Jr. Pac-Man, Baby Pac-Man and even Professor Pac-Man have appeared in licensed titles over the years. This was especially prevalent in the late 1990's-early 2000's with the Infograms licensed PC games and Namco's own Pac-Man World series. However, the original Bally Midway arcade games have very rarely been reissued by Namco. Mrs. Pac-Man is a lone exception due to its popularity and "official" status, but even then it is often an unlockable (or these days, separately paid for) in official Namco arcade collections.

What this means is that Mrs. Pac-Man is not an impossibility, especially if Namco were pushed hard enough, but it's not exactly a period of their history they look fondly on (a licensee beating them in NA and culminating in a lawsuit), and the nature of the character's creation means that there may be additional license stipulations that make her inclusion in Smash difficult to achieve.

Yea I don't know where people are getting this Namco doesn't own her idea...she had a rocky past with lawsuits but so did Donkey Kong with King Kong. Not only that but she's already been in a Mario crossover game with that Mario Kart arcade game. She's really not impossible. Not saying she's gunna happen, but her past isn't really a reason against her.

 

[Billybae10K]

I personally never found the appeal of Warioware (Though I kinda despise Wario with a burning passion) so I'd probably not be that hyped over Ashley if she was included. But if she really is that big in Japan and she really does get added, good on her and the fans that wanted her, as long as someone's happy, it's all good.

 

[vaanrose]

Sega owns everything Bayo 1, Nintendo owns everything Bayo 2 and 3.

So essentially Sega owns her past, Nintendo owns her future.

Sega owns the IP. That's the important distinction. It's a bit like how Disney doesn't own the rights to the original Star Wars movie, and never will unless that Fox deal goes through, even though they own the IP now. I believe Nintendo owns the Bayonetta 2 game, but it's with the important caveat that they can only actual sell it with permission from Sega. You know how it took decades to get a dvd release of the old Batman TV show? It's because Fox owned the show but not the IP, and WB owned the IP but not the show, and they could never get along.

 

[Zeox]

I personally never found the appeal of Warioware (Though I kinda despise Wario with a burning passion) so I'd probably not be that hyped over Ashley if she was included. But if she really is that big in Japan and she really does get added, good on her and the fans that wanted her, as long as someone's happy, it's all good.

I loved Warioware D.I.Y.
But mostly because I could do my own minigames, so I connected all my minigames and make a small game, each minigame was a stage and there were bosses...
Man, that was a fun game.

 

[Playcube]

How Long Will the Ashley Discussion Lasts it's So Amazing in Fact there Should be a Thread to Talk About this

 

[N3ON]

5ch's most requested newcomers (pre-E3) are apparently

Ashley
Lip
Viridi
and Midna

see if you can spot the commonality, lol.

 

[RandomAce]

QUESTION

I've never seen anyone around here wanting the presence of Online Game characters in Smash Bros.
What would be your opinion if characters from Games like:

Ragnarok Online (MMORPG)
League of Legends (MOBA)

Enter Smash Bros as TPs?
I think these are types of Games not yet represented, and that already has a great story.

Well Monolith Soft is currently working on an MMORPG? So I would assume if any online game gets rep, it would be a character from that game as DLC later on.

 

[Will]

How Long Will the Ashley Discussion Lasts it's So Amazing in Fact there Should be a Thread to Talk About this

I've posted enough Chris Hansen for one Ashley Discussion.

 

[Playcube]

5ch's most requested newcomers (pre-E3) are apparently

Ashley
Lip
Viridi
and Midna

see if you can spot the commonality, lol.

Uhh...Midna is Already Confirmed as a Assist Trophy

 

[Shroob]

5ch's most requested newcomers (pre-E3) are apparently

Ashley
Lip
Viridi
and Midna

see if you can spot the commonality, lol.

Japan's a buncha lolicons

 

[DarkFalcon]

I thought K. Rool was also pretty popular in Japan?

 

[N3ON]

Uhh Midna is Already Confirmed as a Assist Trophy

Uhh it was pre-E3.

And tell that to all the Waluigi fans who post-E3 have now donned their tinfoil hats.

 

[Will]

I thought K. Rool was also pretty popular in Japan?

Those are for the closet lolicons.

 

[YoshiandToad]

I suppose I'm kinda a weirdo but I didn't play Wario's other series till after playing and enjoying WarioWare. I do think it introduced a lot of people to Wario and when talking about him as a spin-off you either can really talk about Syrup or the huge cast of WarioWare. So WarioWare sort of has the edge there?

Honestly I always felt it was a shame Syrup and Waluigi didn't get included in later WarioWare titles.

 

[Opossum]

5ch's most requested newcomers (pre-E3) are apparently

Ashley
Lip
Viridi
and Midna

see if you can spot the commonality, lol.

I mean I'm not gonna jump to...certain conclusions, but still. Yikes.

 

[Shroob]

I mean I'm not gonna jump to...certain conclusions, but still. Yikes.

Pft, that's tame for Japan.

 

[KingBroly]

I think if Dark Samus is an Echo Fighter, it means there's more of a possibility that Samus from Smash 4 has her hitboxes fixed.

 

[StrangeMann]

5ch's most requested newcomers (pre-E3) are apparently

Ashley
Lip
Viridi
and Midna

see if you can spot the commonality, lol.

Funny enough, I actually do feel like there's a lack of young-girl smash bros fighters in the roster.
When you look at the young-boy smash bros fighters, you got:
Young Link, Toon Link, Ness, Lucas, ARGUABLY Inkling, and ARGUABLY Pit/Dark Pit, and ARGUABLY Pokemon Trainer are the young boys of the smash bros roster.
Inkling and pokemon trainer are the only "young girl" smash bros characters, and even then do they actually count?

But then again, there's also a lack of Black/African American smash bros fighters (Ganon, Black olimar alt, and...?), but there's not really any major nintendo characters (aside from Doc Louis, Elma, and maybe Anthony Higgs) who would fit that role really well.

 

[92MilesPrower]

This list might seem a little troll but this is a list I made for playable characters I wanted to see in Smash Ultimate. Hoping maybe that one more of these makes it into the game.

Doesn't seem trolly at all, plenty of us have pipe dream characters that we really wanna see in the game. I know there's at least one other person here who would love to see Reimu in Smash someday too, can't remember who it was though. That aside though, the majority of these characters have fair chances to get into the game, Heihachi could be a second Namco rep like Ryu was for Capcom, Marx is a popular choice for a Kirby newcomer that isn't BWD, Akuma could be an echo fighter of Ryu, etc.

 

[N3ON]

Btw I don't have a source for that, just crossposting from resetera, so take it with a grain of salt.

It sounds right though. It's Japan and it's 5ch. xP

 

[Will]

Pit's as old as his first game you madmen.

 

[SquashiniKun]

One of the main reasons i want Ashley in Smash is because we'll most likely get a newcomer poster by Ko Takeuchi. (Coincidentally that's also one of the reasons i want a Rhythm Heaven character in smash)

 

[Shroob]

I mean, it's not like Nintendo doesn't make Ashley appeal to that demographic and all.

Her JP theme is diabetes level of sweet.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

5ch's most requested newcomers (pre-E3) are apparently

Ashley
Lip
Viridi
and Midna

see if you can spot the commonality, lol.

Can we get a Lip and Ashley dual reveal trailer where they're a magical girl duo and all the other characters just stand there dumbfounded?

 

[Curious Villager]

The one of the main reasons i want Ashley in Smash is because we'll most likely get a newcomer poster by Ko Takeuchi. (Coincidentally that's also one of the reasons i want a Rhythm Heaven character in smash)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we didn't get any posters for Ridley, Daisy and Inkling did we? (At least I haven't seen any)

I think that big "Everyone is here" artwork might be replacing that...

 

[Will]

I mean, it's not like Nintendo doesn't make Ashley appeal to that demographic and all.

Jesus, I never realized how wack her shoe game was. She's almost Sora tier of clown shoes.

 

[Troykv]

This list might seem a little troll but this is a list I made for playable characters I wanted to see in Smash Ultimate. Hoping maybe that one more of these makes it into the game.

For me looks like a very legit want list; every character you put has their own popularity, and all of them are videogame characters

 

[TheLastJinjo]

64 would be asking a bit much.

Hence why I originally suggested two each to fill the "16 per character" criteria that was mentioned.

They already cut Little Mac's costumes down to 8.

 

[Billybae10K]

So, as someone who knows nothing about Ashley aside from her being Warioware and a Lolita Goth child with a cute voice that clearly is perfect for the Japanese Market, what sort of moveset would she even have in Smash? I'm genuinely curious.

 

[Troykv]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we didn't get any posters for Ridley, Daisy and Inkling did we? (At least I haven't seen any)

I think that big "Everyone is here" artwork might be replacing that...

I don't know about Ridley, but look a this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Spoiler

 

[Playcube]

SSB5,SSB4,SSBB,SSBM,and SSB64 are Just Great.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

They already cut Little Mac's costumes down to 8.

The demo is already missing confirmed costumes like Fire Mario.

It means nothing. The demo just has 8 costumes in total for the sake of ease.