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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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I mean Bowser is always the final boss Yoshi faces off against. If you think the adult version of Bowser doesn't count then I'd like to point out that adult Bowser was the final boss of 3 Yoshi games (4 if you count Yoshi's Safari).
And those three Yoshi games apparently happen to be the ones no one ever talks about or remembers.

Even though I still love Yoshi's Island DS
 
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Is it just me, or does it feel like the "Mega" evolution thing is getting more tuned down by the Pokémon Company/GameFreak at this point?

At least Mewtwo still uses his mega version.
 

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My knowledge about Yoshi games is fairly small, and from what I've played I feel like I've seen more Kamek than anyone. I wasn't sure if he was ever an important boss fight, but he always seems to be the main guy stirring **** up and people in Smash speculation always bring him up in regards to Yoshi, so I hope its understandable why people bring him up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Is it just me, or does it feel like the "Mega" evolution thing is getting more tuned down by the Pokémon Company/GameFreak at this point?

At least Mewtwo still uses his mega version.
It really seems like Mega Evolution was the special thing about Gen 6, and then that was it.
 
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Before Ridley was revealed, I had an idea for a story mode where Bowser, Bowser Jr, King K. Rool, Ganondorf, Ridley, and Andross team up and serve as the main antagonists for at least most of the story, with Duck Hunt serving as their enforcer.
Never brought it up because no one would take me seriously
 

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My knowledge about Yoshi games is fairly small, and from what I've played I feel like I've seen more Kamek than anyone. I wasn't sure if he was ever an important boss fight, but he always seems to be the main guy stirring **** up and people in Smash speculation always bring him up in regards to Yoshi, so I hope its understandable why people bring him up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bowser is the regular Final Boss, but Kamek is the one you see throughout the game. Like...Bowser Jr., or Boom Boom, or Zant, or Ghirahim.
 

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Probably Mega Lucario using his brawl final smash
If that's the case, then Lucario's Final Smash would likely deal maximum damage, regardless of its current damage.

With that said, mega evolution has only been a thing in the 6th generation, since it's pretty clear that Game Freak didn't push it any further in the 7th generation; we instead got Z-Moves.
 

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Before Ridley was revealed, I had an idea for a story mode where Bowser, Bowser Jr, King K. Rool, Ganondorf, Ridley, and Andross team up and serve as the main antagonists for at least most of the story, with Duck Hunt serving as their enforcer.
Never brought it up because no one would take me seriously
Have you posted this before? I remember reading a story idea where DHD were part of the villains.
 

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Before Ridley was revealed, I had an idea for a story mode where Bowser, Bowser Jr, King K. Rool, Ganondorf, Ridley, and Andross team up and serve as the main antagonists for at least most of the story, with Duck Hunt serving as their enforcer.
Never brought it up because no one would take me seriously
I can't take that seriously. ANDROSS being playable in Smash Bros.?
 

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I mean, literally why would it be anything else from what it was last time?
Why are you being so hostile lmao?

Nintendo representatives made the comment that the Pokemon Trainer has been reworked so you can solo main any of the Pokemon if you want. To cater to that, its possible they mapped switching to a different input. Refilling an ink tank is shield+special button, maybe they remapped Pokemon swapping to the same thing so each Pokemon could have a 4th special. It'd make a hell of a lot of sense to do that if you ask me.

Aside from that, I was answering someone else's question because they didn't know. Nobody needed you to jump in aggressively and try to imply someone is dumb for thinking they might've changed it.
 
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I can't take that seriously. ANDROSS being playable in Smash Bros.?
Yes? He is more than just a floating head, you know.
Still, now that Wolfy is back, Krystal will be the most wanted Star Fox newcomer. I call it, since it's logical.
 
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Have you posted this before? I remember reading a story idea where DHD were part of the villains.
No, but I'm pretty sure I know what post you're talking about. It was what made me think "hey, Duck Hunt working with the villains could actually make a lot of sense!"
He was even in that creepy australlian NES commercial with Bowser, Lakitu and a few other villains from that era.
 

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Even tho ... When I think of a villain with beard from Nintendo. I think of Medeus from Fire Emblem. I feel like the only one ever thought of him.
I mean, Marth was the first Fire Emblem character, and Medeus is the antagonist of the first FE. It would make sense?
 

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Why are you being so hostile lmao?

Nintendo representatives made the comment that the Pokemon Trainer has been reworked so you can solo main any of the Pokemon if you want. To cater to that, its possible they mapped switching to a different input. Refilling an ink tank is shield+special button, maybe they remapped Pokemon swapping to the same thing so each Pokemon could have a 4th special. It'd make a hell of a lot of sense to do that if you ask me.

Aside from that, I was answering someone else's question because they didn't know. Nobody needed you to jump in aggressively and try to imply someone is dumb for thinking they might've changed it.
Sorry, wasn't trying to be hostile, had a big ass panic attack that could have cost me a ****ton of money today and I'm still a bit on edge for that. I just had no clue why it'd be changed. Now that you explained Inkling, it makes sense
 

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Even tho ... When I think of a villain with beard from Nintendo. I think of Medeus from Fire Emblem. I feel like the only one ever thought of him.
I mean, Marth was the first Fire Emblem character, and Medeus is the antagonist of the first FE. It would make sense?
LordJackal LordJackal always advocated for Hardin as the FE villain character.
 

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1. He's an assist trophy already
2. It's a joke my dude

dang you right statement redacted
I know. Let me carry on with my fun.
I guess the comment was felt like sass, but it was not, really. :awesome:

LordJackal LordJackal always advocated for Hardin as the FE villain character.
Never heard of this character. How cool. I don't know much of FE in general, but Hardin looks cool.
 
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I can't take that seriously. ANDROSS being playable in Smash Bros.?
Yeah. I mean obviously not in Ultimate because of the AT whose existence I keep forgetting about, but he could show up in the future. (Though it's obviously unlikely blah blah blah)
 
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Before Ridley was revealed, I had an idea for a story mode where Bowser, Bowser Jr, King K. Rool, Ganondorf, Ridley, and Andross team up and serve as the main antagonists for at least most of the story, with Duck Hunt serving as their enforcer.
Never brought it up because no one would take me seriously
Medusa deserves better. Seriously though, Villains are a massive part of kid icarus and I lowkey want one in. And not as an echo, she also deserves better in that regard
 
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Sorry, wasn't trying to be hostile, had a big *** panic attack that could have cost me a ****ton of money today and I'm still a bit on edge for that. I just had no clue why it'd be changed. Now that you explained Inkling, it makes sense
Tbh I hadn't even considered that specific possibility until that moment. In the past, people had thrown out the suggestion of mapping it to a taunt button so each Pokemon could have 4 specials, which I think could have to do with the initial question being raised. I was always against that, as sideways joycons likely won't be able to taunt, so that'd be impractical. But considering that fact that they've added this new input as a major tool for Inkling, I'm actually kinda upset they didn't do the same for Pokemon Trainer. Zard could still have Rock Smash if they did that.
 

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Tbh I hadn't even considered that specific possibility until that moment. In the past, people had thrown out the suggestion of mapping it to a taunt button so each Pokemon could have 4 specials, which I think could have to do with the initial question being raised. I was always against that, as sideways joycons likely won't be able to taunt, so that'd be impractical. But considering that fact that they've added this new input as a major tool for Inkling, I'm actually kinda upset they didn't do the same for Pokemon Trainer. Zard could still have Rock Smash if they did that.
Yeah, but shield special would mean it doesn't work in the air. As it is, actively transforming is a ton more useful than the alternative.
 
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Medusa deserves better. Seriously though, Villains are a massive part of kid icarus and I lowkey want one in. And not as an echo, she also deserves better in that regard
Eh, I don't think Medusa is as major of a villain as the ones I've mentioned.
Even if we got a Kid Icarus villain I'd much rather have Hades.
 

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The ONLY new Kid Icarus character I'd be satisfied with. AND hyped to play.
fr, I know people would be miffed with getting another kid icarus character, but medusa, in addition to being cool as hell, would be so fun to play as and she's a classic character as well, the original kid icarus trio should be a thing in smash. Plus, she's a female villain as well, that's also cool

Eh, I don't think Medusa is as major of a villain as the ones I've mentioned.
Even if we got a Kid Icarus villain I'd much rather have Hades.
While she's not as important in uprising she's still the main villain of the series, can't forget the original kid icarus
 
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Eh, I don't think Medusa is as major of a villain as the ones I've mentioned.
Even if we got a Kid Icarus villain I'd much rather have Hades.
Medusa makes sense to me since, like Pit and Palutena, she’s one of the mainstays of the series...

...but I also like Hades more.
 
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I'm gonna sound like a spoiled brat by saying this but I want Codecs back alongside Guidances and Hades barging in through and being the **** we all love
I want this as well. Excluding him from the Guidance in the first place is a mistake that must be corrected.
 

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Eh, I don't think Medusa is as major of a villain as the ones I've mentioned.
Even if we got a Kid Icarus villain I'd much rather have Hades.
Medusa is much better than Hades, in my honest opinion.
1. She is more recurring than Hades. 2. She would fill the first female villain (excluding Wendy Koopa for obvious reasons).
3. Not only important to Pit, but for Palutena as well. 4. Outside of his personality, what really makes him better than Medusa? (Really curious.)
 

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Eh, I don't think Medusa is as major of a villain as the ones I've mentioned.
Even if we got a Kid Icarus villain I'd much rather have Hades.
Hades is a new thing. And to me he is seriously disturbing. Way too over the top.
Medusa on the other hand is the antagonist of the first two games and is much more balanced as a villain.
I truly prefer her.
 
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