Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Autumn ♫]

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Fun little game for y'all.

Hmmm,

I don't think I would have believed Villager, Wii Fit Trainer (although I would have loved the idea), Greninja, Cloud, or Fire Emblem 14 protag.

I'd definitely love it though, simply for Lucina.

 

[ZenythSmash]

Guys, forget about Ridley, I have 100% real proof that Ridley will not be in E3:

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Rip Ridley, goodnight space pirate.

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[Pacack]

I do think that it's interesting that about eight of the fifteen base newcomers were predicted by the boards. Maybe Sakurai likes taking about 50% of the newcomers from popular choices?

 

[Mogu]

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Fun little game for y'all.

Outside of Cloud and Greninja, pretty much would have.
Greninja just because didn't even know what that was back then.

 

[IronWarrior94]

https://twitter.com/JonComms/status/1004487619416330245?s=20

This one is my favorite. "Or any other game...( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)"

Oh s***...C'mon Jonneh boi, don't let us down...

 

[NintendoKnight]

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Fun little game for y'all.

Cloud Strife in Smash?

That's freaking fake, yo. There's no way he'd ever get in, despite how happy that'd make me.

It's impossible.

 

[Icedragonadam]

If by some miracle Yuri Lowell was in, it would mean having this track in the game. :D

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Look at that tail, can you imagine how disjointed some of his moves will be if it isn't a hurtbox?
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I mean, it's not like there isn't precedent for absurd disjoints in Smash but still, I think it'd be a good idea to at least have a bit of the tail have a hurtbox.

With Zard, about a third of the tail is a hurtbox, and with Mewtwo about half of his tail is a hurtbox. Additionally with Mewtwo most of his tail rests in the z-axis, so he doesn't get hit so easily outside of using it and tumbling. Logically with Ridley the same would happen, some portion of his tail is a hurtbox to limit disjoint on his tail attacks, while it rests in the z-axis when not in use so it doesn't become a big detriment.

 

[P.Kat]

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Fun little game for y'all.

Ryu and Bayonetta would of taken me for a loop.

 

[?????????????]

If by some miracle Yuri Lowell was in, it would mean having this track in the game. :D

And also this one!

 

[Deleted member]

I heard some kind of FE talk twenty something pages ago and I want to contribute....

Give Roy, Cloud and Marth English voices please. FE is no longer outside of Japan.

 

[N3ON]

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Fun little game for y'all.

If you had come to me in 2011 after Smash 4 got announced and said the newcomers were to be:

The Animal Crosser
The trainer from Wii Fit
Rosalina
Bowser Jr. with all the Koopalings as alts
Little Mac
3 different Miis
Duck Hunt Dog
The guy from that game that's never getting localized
Palutena
A dark version of Pit
A Gen VI Pokemon
Three FE characters that didn't exist yet
Mega Man
Pac-Man
Ryu
Cloud
and Bayonetta

I would've asked if you minded sharing whatever drugs you must be on.

Still not convinced that isn't a fake list.

 

[TheWozny]

I doubt Ridley's tail and wings would be a hurt box. People need to stop thinking of it as a tail and more like a glorified sword. Yea, it could be a hurtbox when attacking (like Mewtwo or Charizard), but other than that, Ridley would have a big frame to begin with, so I doubt people would have issues getting a hit on him regardless.

Also, I would def have called fake on Smash 4 and def Brawl's Newcomers lmao

 

[.Shìkì]

Look at that tail, can you imagine how disjointed some of his moves will be if it isn't a hurtbox?
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I mean, it's not like there isn't precedent for absurd disjoints in Smash but still, I think it'd be a good idea to at least have a bit of the tail have a hurtbox.

Easy fix : Make the tail a hurtbox only during attacks (possibly super armor), so if you try to impale somebody with the tail and you ram it into a fireball you gain % but do not get knocked back as long as only the tail is hit. If that is still too powerful, make something above a certain %dmg stagger Ridley and cancel the tail attack.

 

[Sage of Ice]

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Fun little game for y'all.

i'd have bought it right up until ryu and cloud, at which point i'd have been glad to write it off. Sakurai himself said characters from other fighting games were probably not gonna happen, and cloud pretty blatantly has no relationship with nintendo. no way they'd let those two join the party! the rest of the names would've bored me so i'd be glad to see something that so easily discredits it

 

[Pacack]

I heard some kind of FE talk twenty something pages ago and I want to contribute....

Give Roy, Cloud and Marth English voices please. FE is no longer outside of Japan.

I would argue that Roy should keep his voice Japanese since his game never released overseas.

 

[Dendros]

Personally, I'm fond of making Ridley's wings and tail make him appear larger than he really is.

This. This is the perfect size for him with Samus as reference. He doesn't have to be gigantic. As long as he is brutal and ferocious and menacing.

 

[monadoboy]

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Fun little game for y'all.

Hmm.. I think I'd believe if it wasn't for the DLC third parties and Corrin. But it has Lucina and Shulk so I'd be 200% biased.

 

[NintendoKnight]

The only way I can see Ridley actually get the representation Sakurai believes he deserves (which includes Ridley at a massive size) is to make Ridley's size his entire gimmick.

The largest characters we've had up until now are Bowser, DK, & DDD. (K. Rool/Ganon would be in this category as well).

The idea now, I believe, is to just make Ridley be a Super Large character, and the only one of his kind. That'll be his entire shtick. He's so massive, all his attacks have great reach and good power, but he's capable of being nailed from that far away due to his own hurtbox. 8-Player Smashes would go one of two ways in a very extreme fashion: he's either winning above everyone because all his attacks are hitting, or he's getting obliterated because everything is hitting him instead.

If they can somehow balance out the gimmick of his size, which I know Sakurai can do if he REALLY put his mind and team to work 120%. He'd have fast attacks with some armor, but each attack would have a slower wind-up with an obvious tell.

I'm not a Ridley advocate, but having a supermassive character might actually be an interesting concept to play with or against. It might completely break the conventions of Smash, but it might be the only way to go even further beyond.

That being said, having 8 Ridley's on screen might be impossible... or it might not. Who knows other than the dev team?

 

[Pacack]

Anyone want to critique my roster that's specifically made up of half oddball predictions? No? Okay, have it anyways.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Among that newcomer list? Cloud Strife, Ryu, Bowser Jr., Little Mac, MegaMan, Pac-Man, and Mii were all pretty believable to me. Rest took me by surprise.

 

[Ridleyridster]

No that ship has sailed thank heavens

It would probably be proteus Ridley with out the armor or whatever metroid prime 4 Ridley looks like

Maybe I'm in the minority but I would love a glorious modern rendering of Ridley from Super Metroid. That's always been my favorite iteration of Ridley.
Honestly though, if he gets in at all I'll be MORE than content.

 

[ReeseBalaski]

I would argue that Roy should keep his voice Japanese since his game never released overseas.

But I want Ray Chase in Smaaaassssshhh.

 

[WaddleMatt]

The last weekend before E3. This will be hectic I'm calling it.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh s***...C'mon Jonneh boi, don't let us down...

For the record, he could just be saying how he would like a Ridley amiibo handled and not teasing anything.

 

[Arcadenik]

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Two Mario newcomers? Still no Toad but we get a Peach clone and a Bowser clone.
Three Fire Emblem newcomers? Maybe Ike is cut so there are four Fire Emblem characters.
Lucina? But she would be a clone of Marth!
Dark Pit? But he would be a clone of Pit!
Two Capcom characters? I doubt it.
Villager? The Animal Crossing protagonist? I wonder how he would fight.
Wii Fit Trainer? Who? What? Why?
Greninja? Uhh... still no Meowth. Well, at least it is not Brawl Pokémon plus Mewtwo. I did want a new playable Pokémon after all.
Cloud Strife? But Final Fantasy VII was never on Nintendo consoles. Why not Cecil Harvey or Terra Branford?
No Dixie Kong or King K. Rool?
No Zelda newcomer?
Still no Ridley? Not surprising. He is too big.
Duck Hunt Dog? I hope this leak is real!

 

[Dendros]

Maybe I'm in the minority but I would love a glorious modern rendering of Ridley from Super Metroid. That's always been my favorite iteration of Ridley.
Honestly though, if he gets in at all I'll be MORE than content.

I hope for this too, along with maybe a metal Ridley and Proteus ridley skin.

 

[Crap-Zapper]

Alright. Just for curiosity.


You got to pick 3 Newcomers. One being the one you want most out of anything and anyone. The second a character just to please it's fans. The last will be the character you despise the most.

Mine;

1. King K. Rool. (Most wanted newcomer.)
2. Ridley. (They have suffered enough.)
3. Rabbids. (God ... Not Mario Rabbids or anything, just plain Rabbids.)

 

[Deleted member]

Anyone want to critique my roster that's specifically made up of half oddball predictions? No? Okay, have it anyways.

It has Simon Belmont and Pig Ganon so it's good on my book.

Also are the yellow ones supposed to be DLC?

 

[Pacack]

It has Simon Belmont and Pig Ganon so it's good on my book.

Also are the yellow ones supposed to be DLC?

Yes.

 

[osby]

Alright. Just for curiosity.


You got to pick 3 Newcomers. One being the one you want most out of anything and anyone. The second a character just to please it's fans. The last will be the character you despise the most.

Mine;

1. King K. Rool. (Most wanted newcomer.)
2. Ridley. (They have suffered enough.)
3. Rabbids. (God ... Not Mario Rabbids or anything, just plain Rabbids.)

1. Dixie Kong
2. Ridley, I guess
3. Shuji Ikutsuki

 

[?????????????]

Alright. Just for curiosity.


You got to pick 3 Newcomers. One being the one you want most out of anything and anyone. The second a character just to please it's fans. The last will be the character you despise the most.

1. Rayman (My most wanted this time.)
2. Ridley (It's time.)
3. Lycanroc (I wouldn't say I despise it the most, but it's the one I see most frequently that I just don't care for)

 

[IronWarrior94]

For the record, he could just be saying how he would like a Ridley amiibo handled and not teasing anything.

True, but the "other games" part seems a tiny bit cryptic. What else could you use a Ridley amiibo for outside of a Metroid game?

 

[Originality]

Alright. Just for curiosity.


You got to pick 3 Newcomers. One being the one you want most out of anything and anyone. The second a character just to please it's fans. The last will be the character you despise the most.

Mine;

1. King K. Rool. (Most wanted newcomer.)
2. Ridley. (They have suffered enough.)
3. Rabbids. (God ... Not Mario Rabbids or anything, just plain Rabbids.)

1. Chibi Robo
2. King K. Rool
3. Minecraft Steve
The most despised one is the one I had the hardest time deciding really

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Anyone want to critique my roster that's specifically made up of half oddball predictions? No? Okay, have it anyways.

Likeliness? I’m gonna say no to Kamek, DK Jr, Isabelle, and Karate Joe.

How much I would enjoy it? Pig Ganon and Ridley make me a VERY happy little boy, but K Rool being DLC doesn’t (although I’d take that over not being in the game). Swap K. Rool with DK Jr, and maybe toss Waluigi in there, and I would be MORE than satisfied.

 

[?????????????]

The most despised one is the one I had the hardest time deciding really

Yeah, I mean...there's really no limitations there, is there?

I could've said my most despised newcomer would be Iska Farkas, but why would he be considered in the first place?

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Two Mario newcomers? Still no Toad but we get a Peach clone and a Bowser clone.
Three Fire Emblem newcomers? Maybe Ike is cut so there are four Fire Emblem characters.
Lucina? But she would be a clone of Marth!
Dark Pit? But he would be a clone of Pit!
Two Capcom characters? I doubt it.
Villager? The Animal Crossing protagonist? I wonder how he would fight.
Wii Fit Trainer? Who? What? Why?
Greninja? Uhh... still no Meowth. Well, at least it is not Brawl Pokémon plus Mewtwo. I did want a new playable Pokémon after all.
Cloud Strife? But Final Fantasy VII was never on Nintendo consoles. Why not Cecil Harvey or Terra Branford?
No Dixie Kong or King K. Rool?
No Zelda newcomer?
Still no Ridley? Not surprising. He is too big.
Duck Hunt Dog? I hope this leak is real!

That's a good point that two Mario newcomers after not having any in brawl sould be shocking...it's sort of like how we haven't any Zelda newcomers and people would be surprised about 2 or more...

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Alright. Just for curiosity.


You got to pick 3 Newcomers. One being the one you want most out of anything and anyone. The second a character just to please it's fans. The last will be the character you despise the most.

Mine;

1. King K. Rool. (Most wanted newcomer.)
2. Ridley. (They have suffered enough.)
3. Rabbids. (God ... Not Mario Rabbids or anything, just plain Rabbids.)

Alrighty

1. Gardevoir (no one said anything about it being plausible)
2. Crash Bandicoot (like him but it's more for the significance)
3. CN ReBoot Lion-O (No one said it had to follow the VG only rule)

 

[osby]

Yeah, I mean...there's really no limitations there, is there?

I could've said my most despised newcomer would be Iska Farkas, but why would he be considered in the first place?

Same. My most despised character isn't even playable character material.

 

[Originality]

Yeah, I mean...there's really no limitations there, is there?

I could've said my most despised newcomer would be Iska Farkas, but why would he be considered in the first place?

Fair, I guess I was trying to keep it a character that did at least have a chance.