Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[MrRoidley]

Wait guys what's with Vergeben, Castlevania compilation? Has it been announced or leaked?

 

[Gameboi834]

Guys I'm gonna play Smash

 

[Nekoo]

I don't know what it is about Banjo, Bomberman, Crash and Rayman, but I feel like they're such a better fit for Smash Bros. when comparing them to Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta and Snake.

I think I just like goofy third party characters rather than edgy ones. Smash has always felt goofy to me.

>Cloud
>Edgy
>CLOUD
>Edgy

Cloud is probably the most chill and goofy FF protagonist ever, cross-dress as a girl, get constantly ****-talked by some of his team mate and got Manhandled by some beefy dudes and would rather do Chocobo Race than Saving the world and use "Let's Moosey" as a catchphrase

10/10 would hang out with him again- He became Edgy ever since KH/Advance Children- but FFVII Cloud? He's a sweet ************

 

[StrangeMann]

Wait guys what's with Vergeben, Castlevania compilation? Has it been announced or leaked?

TL:DR
Anon is a guy who repeatedly makes collages on 4chan of the imgur leak and the vergeben leak, allegedly has gotten in contact with vergeben himself, says that vergeben has 3 sources, but the one who told him about snake and confirmed other information is in a vulnerable position, and was waiting for a new title (not from square enix ubisoft or sega, highly implied to be konami from some statements) which was a compilation port to the switch. Wanted information from E3 to leak ahead of time so he could show the rest of the DM (which would prove the source was legitimate) without jeopardizing vergeben's source because it would be obvious who had all of this information to the boss. A hour after the new information from Konami dropped, Vergeben makes a new statement confirming he did know of the konami titles coming that the 4chan anon was alluding to, coming from the same source the information that was about snake (and probably simon) in smash bros.

 

[SmashChu]

It appears from review that an anon attributing this information to him via DM is the source of this information. However it's looking likely that if the anon saying an unannounced title would confirm one of his leakers saying snake/belmont were in the game, that vergeben told the anon about an upcoming konami game that source knew about. This goes back a few days to a week ago.
It's theoretically possible that the anon who stated this was bluffing and attributing to vergeben falsely, but that's a lucky guess

I find that doubtful since Vergeben is an attention seeker. He would have made the post himself. Heck, this guy tries to post rumors in multiple boards on Reddit with most of them getting closed. I doubt he would have just posted it on 4Chan and seeing as there is no screen of this, I think its safe to say its bogus.
What I expect is going on is an anon on /v/ is trying to make this more credible. The comment I made on Masked Man's comment was actually a thread on 4chan. A lot of the responses weren't happy I said he was wrong and accused me of cherrypicking (particularly true as I didn't report on everything, but I sourced the information so others could see it for themselves. A few people worship him over there so I expect thats what's going on. Some good comments I came across researching this. Seems GameFAQ is having a similar discussion with people believing the hearsay. These two comments came to a similar conclusion as I. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-for-nintendo-switch/76677805?page=6

Yup. Also, everything Vergeben related is being kept track of and yet this is the first most of us are hearing about this compilation game being mentioned in PMs. With how obsessive a lot of the community is I find it highly strange that no one seems to have a screengrab of the post. Vergeben has come out recently to distance himself from these impersonators because they make him look less credible. So why would he give info to someone who would probably impersonate him again?

I'm willing (and hoping) to be proved wrong but I have my doubts.

4chan goes against his style.

Not to mention Vergeben would comment on leaks he's made. Case in point, with Leakileaks, when it got traction on GFAQs, he actually came in and commented on the topics discussing them. While I do give Vergeben a lot of crap, one thing I will give him credit for is he's not afraid to address doubters directly. He may not do it in the best way, but one thing he certainly is not is a coward.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

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Guys I'm gonna play Smash

Congrats, have fun my guy :D

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/board...-for-nintendo-switch/76677805?page=6jumpto#70

Holy crap, it's true. The anon was telling the truth, he mentioned verge on the 4chan konami forum an hour ago and said it was a castlevania game.
https://gyazo.com/07caea9628d6341abc9469dabeaf513f

That's what's going on in my head right now

 

[Zinith]

Anyone here who's gonna play Smash at E3: if Yoshi is available, can someone PLEASE play as him?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I don't know what it is about Banjo, Bomberman, Crash and Rayman, but I feel like they're such a better fit for Smash Bros. when comparing them to Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta and Snake.

I think I just like goofy third party characters rather than edgy ones. Smash has always felt goofy to me.

I wouldn’t consider Bayo or Ryu edgy

 

[Nekoo]

I find that doubtful since Vergeben is an attention seeker. He would have made the post himself. Heck, this guy tries to post rumors in multiple boards on Reddit with most of them getting closed. I doubt he would have just posted it on 4Chan and seeing as there is no screen of this, I think its safe to say its bogus.
What I expect is going on is an anon on /v/ is trying to make this more credible. The comment I made on Masked Man's comment was actually a thread on 4chan. A lot of the responses weren't happy I said he was wrong and accused me of cherrypicking (particularly true as I didn't report on everything, but I sourced the information so others could see it for themselves. A few people worship him over there so I expect thats what's going on. Some good comments I came across researching this. Seems GameFAQ is having a similar discussion with people believing the hearsay. These two comments came to a similar conclusion as I. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-for-nintendo-switch/76677805?page=6

Not to be an ass but...Yet it seems that what he said is true?
MAYBE, I'm just saying MAYBE this time Vergeben decided to be careful and play it safe since being wrong about Smash could potentialy destroy his rep forever?

 

[Arcadenik]

i have a theory, we will most likely see 3 new third party characters, Simon, A new character from Bamco, and a new character from Square Enix, therefore every third party company gets an equal amount of two reps.

Konami's 2nd character - Simon Belmont
Bamco's 2nd character - Heihachi (Tekken) or Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia) or Track Meet (World Class Track Meet)
Square's 2nd character - Sora or Crono (Chrono Trigger) or Slime (Dragon Quest)

Rare's two characters - Banjo-Kazooie and Conker (so they can be reunited with Diddy Kong and we can finally have a Diddy Kong Racing stage)

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Have I not gone on record here saying that Crash is the ugliest? Sorry, not sorry .

You're a terrible person and I know who I'm going to aim Crash onto once he's revealed in Smash

Had to respond to this as a late response.... Dissing on flippin LeBron James? Nah.

Sorry bruh, LBJ has always and will always suck. He may be a legend to the NBA, but he's no GOAT like Jordan is.


Now if I were to choose the 3rd parties, I'd go with Crash

 

[Radical Bones]

>Cloud
>Edgy
>CLOUD
>Edgy

Cloud is probably the most chill and goofy FF protagonist ever, cross-dress as a girl, get constantly ****-talked by some of his team mate and got Manhandled by some beefy dudes and would rather do Chocobo Race than Saving the world and use "Let's Moosey" as a catchphrase

10/10 would hang out with him again- He became Edgy ever since KH/Advance Children- but FFVII Cloud? He's a sweet ************

Maybe it's just his Smash persona then. Kinda like how Palutena seems lackluster, I feel the same way about Cloud.

Snake was handled really well (insert Snake-handler joke). The little sound effects and great voice acting made him feel like a good fit.

I wouldn’t consider Bayo or Ryu edgy

Eh, I guess edgy isn't the right word. I don't know what word to use. Bayo is a better fit than the rest on the list to be honest.

 

[StrangeMann]

I find that doubtful since Vergeben is an attention seeker. He would have made the post himself. Heck, this guy tries to post rumors in multiple boards on Reddit with most of them getting closed. I doubt he would have just posted it on 4Chan and seeing as there is no screen of this, I think its safe to say its bogus.
What I expect is going on is an anon on /v/ is trying to make this more credible. The comment I made on Masked Man's comment was actually a thread on 4chan. A lot of the responses weren't happy I said he was wrong and accused me of cherrypicking (particularly true as I didn't report on everything, but I sourced the information so others could see it for themselves. A few people worship him over there so I expect thats what's going on. Some good comments I came across researching this. Seems GameFAQ is having a similar discussion with people believing the hearsay. These two comments came to a similar conclusion as I. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-for-nintendo-switch/76677805?page=6

In the same forum you linked, verge just posted about a castlevania compilation game
Also there is a screenshot of it being a port/compilation: https://gyazo.com/8bd17a9a13a5577129debac25634ca78 (in response to people guess a new title, square enix and SEGA)

 

[Fenriraga]

Despacito.

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Guys I'm gonna play Smash

Grats my guy. Sadly, like I've said before... I was a day late. Tried my code, checked my email, nothing. **** outta luck.

You'll DEFINITELY have to meet up with me after you play though and gimme your thoughts. Meanwhile, I'm gonna scower Ebay... Or somewhere where some Scalper might make a quick buck.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

Huh, so the Vergeben rumor is gaining a lot of ground. That's exciting, to say the least. Lots of fan-favorite and gaming history in those characters. Ideal situation here is that Verge is right and Imgur is wrong. I'm excited to watch all this play out over the next week.

 

[T-Donor66]

God, the thing I want most from E3 this year is to see Mewtwo footage. I really hope they at least show SOMETHING of him. It would suck to have to wait till near release for mere confirmation of his return.

 

[CannonStreak]

So, if Simon Belmont is going to be in Smash, who else wants Dracula himself as a boss in some form in Smash as well?

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Maybe it's just his Smash persona then. Kinda like how Palutena seems lackluster, I feel the same way about Cloud.

Snake was handled really well (insert Snake-handler joke). The little sound effects and great voice acting made him feel like a good fit.



Eh, I guess edgy isn't the right word. I don't know what word to use. Bayo is a better fit than the rest on the list to be honest.

Speaking of snake's voice, what the hell is gonna happen with it if he does come back? Will Hayter come back? isn't there beef between hayter and kojima and konami? Will they just reuse brawl clips which means no new codecs?

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

God, the thing I want most from E3 this year is to see Mewtwo footage. I really hope they at least show SOMETHING of him. It would suck to have to wait till near release for mere confirmation of his return.

You and me both. I literally don’t really care who makes it in as long as Mewtwo comes back.

 

[Arcadenik]

Sorry if this was posted before but did you guys see this tweet

https://twitter.com/Marcus_Sellars/status/1003395433064992768

Supposedly there is a lot of vageenas in this game, this guy has a horrible track record but I'll take it with 2 grains of salt instead of just 1

Dixie Kong, Elma, Medusa, and Nana (Ice Climbers) should bump that number up to 21. That's a lot of tacos.

 

[monadoboy]

Some people have suggested that they do something similar to what they did with Super Mario Maker at E3 2015. In that presentation, before a game was getting shown off, you see Mario transform into an 8bit version of a character from that franchise (so before the Zelda games were shown off, you saw Mario transform into 8bit Link). In the upcoming presentation, people are suggesting doing the same thing, except it would obviously be for Smash Bros.

So, before showing off Fire Emblem Switch, we could see a bit of Marth in Smash Switch.

I remember reading that, and boy, I don't think there's anything that could be as hype as that. I really hope they do that I loved the Mario Maker bits.

So, say five newcomers get announced at e3 not including inklings. Which ones are they?

Five you say?
Anna
Lyn
Celica
Alm
Chrom
:^)

 

[Swamp Sensei]

My reaction to this news.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

The earlier Smash Run talk made me realize how annoying is that the best aspects of Adventure Mode, Subspace, and Smash Run would make an excellent Smash Bros. story mode. Why did they have to separate them into three games??

How could they all be put together in a cohesive way?

 

[RandomAce]

Damn this thread has a lot of people on right now!

Anyways I still doubt on the leaks Vergeben posted (even though I REALLY REALLY want Snake, Ridley, and IC), although Vergeben has gotten things right before, almost every leak he has made related to Nintendo has been confirmed to be incorrect (except about what will happen to the Virtual Console).

So I’m still going to take with a grain of salt.

As, for the Imgur leak, that is just a whole bunch of BS, in no way in hell is that true.

 

[UltimateWario]

Much as I want to believe in this leak, and much as I would adore having Ridley in, I’m fully prepared for another Palutena-Tier hype flop. I’m thinking Rabbid.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Maybe it's just his Smash persona then. Kinda like how Palutena seems lackluster, I feel the same way about Cloud.

Snake was handled really well (insert Snake-handler joke). The little sound effects and great voice acting made him feel like a good fit.



Eh, I guess edgy isn't the right word. I don't know what word to use. Bayo is a better fit than the rest on the list to be honest.

Bayo is like any other Nintendo or fun Sonic character, but op in the sexy department (she puts Palutena, who isn’t lackluster when she’s with Pit, to shame)

Speaking of snake's voice, what the hell is gonna happen with it if he does come back? Will Hayter come back? isn't there beef between hayter and kojima and konami? Will they just reuse brawl clips which means no new codecs?

If Snake returns, I need him and Pit to have two different conversations based on their games over Pit talking about him and Snake having a reused audio used for him

I remember reading that, and boy, I don't think there's anything that could be as hype as that. I really hope they do that I loved the Mario Maker bits.



Five you say?
Anna
Lyn
Celica
Alm
Chrom
:^)

Lyn
Bride Lyn
Love Lyn
Legend Bow Lyn
Super Legend Bow Lyn

 

[Nu~]

Would you rather:

Simon Belmont
Rayman
Bomberman
Banjo Kazooie
or Crash

in the next Smash game?

For me, it'd be Banjo Kazooie hands down.

Crash EZ

He’s the only one I grew up with :,]

 

[IronWarrior94]

Not to be an *** but...Yet it seems that what he said is true?
MAYBE, I'm just saying MAYBE this time Vergeben decided to be careful and play it safe since being wrong about Smash could potentialy destroy his rep forever?

To add to this, Vergeben has said before that out of all his sources, the one that he's putting the most trust in are those that say Ridley will be playable and revealed at E3. Considering how big of a deal Ridley is to the Smash community, I'd say someone who has a lot of misshaps in leaking info wouldn't risk his already shaky reputation on claiming to say the most widely requested character will be in the game, if he didn't think there was some merit to it.

 

[Nekoo]

Speaking of snake's voice, what the hell is gonna happen with it if he does come back? Will Hayter come back? isn't there beef between hayter and kojima and konami? Will they just reuse brawl clips which means no new codecs?

Hayter did Voice Snake for a Ford car ads in 2016 and still had it like perfect.

I think water went under the bridge and they're fine. I think the MGSV/Kojima backslash made Konami try to please the fan by bringing him back

 

[Nu~]

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PPL

Y’all, we have no new rumors for you lol. Just the same two iffy ones we’ve had for a few weeks now

 

[Wyoming]

How could they all be put together in a cohesive way?

The level aethestics and pacing of Melee with Brawl's gameplay and Sm4sh's enemies and perhaps physics.

Its beautifuuuul

 

[StrangeMann]

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PPL

Y’all, we have no new rumors for you lol. Just the same two iffy ones we’ve had for a few weeks now

Except because of Konami's E3 schedule, 4chan rumblings, and a statement verge made it makes Vergeben's sources much more likely to be true.

 

[Zinith]

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PPL

Y’all, we have no new rumors for you lol. Just the same two iffy ones we’ve had for a few weeks now

I'm always here...

aaaaaaalways

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PPL

Y’all, we have no new rumors for you lol. Just the same two iffy ones we’ve had for a few weeks now

The vergeben leak gain a lot of ground is what's going on.

 

[papagenos]

i'm still lookng at vergeben as a rumor/leak (though i think now its essentially all but confirmed) but like... if its true honestly think of the insane hype levels the smash E3 reveals could be:

ice Climbers returning is hype
Snake returning is super hype
Simon in smash is super mega hype
Ridley in smash is super mega ultra hype

people will go nuts over each and every one of those. Snake returning and Ridley playable in particular are internet destroying overload hype.

and yet maybe the best thing about vergeben leak basically being confirmed is the part about no cuts. with so many parts of smash bros being arguably "the best part" the worst part is certainly cuts. in a game where its all about having cross overs and bringing game characters from different games into one place, getting rid of characters that made it before is just hard to accept. hopefully for once we will get a smash game without cuts.

 

[T-Donor66]

You and me both. I literally don’t really care who makes it in as long as Mewtwo comes back.

Although I would personally bet good money on his return, I don't want to experience that horrible uncertainty from the Smash 4 speculation era EVER again. i just want the confirmation early so I can rest easy and get completely hyped.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

The level aethestics and pacing of Melee with Brawl's gameplay and Sm4sh's enemies and perhaps physics.

Its beautifuuuul

I'm only partially following:
Melee: Levels mostly based on franchises, cut up into small sections
Smash 4: Enemies based on franchises (...like Melee?)
Brawl: ??? profit

 

[TMNTSSB4]

i'm still lookng at vergeben as a rumor/leak (though i think now its essentially all but confirmed) but like... if its true honestly think of the insane hype levels the smash E3 reveals could be:

ice Climbers returning is hype
Snake returning is super hype
Simon in smash is super mega hype
Ridley in smash is super mega ultra hype

people will go nuts over each and every one of those. Snake returning and Ridley playable in particular are internet destroying overload hype.

and yet maybe the best thing about vergeben leak basically being confirmed is the part about no cuts. with so many parts of smash bros being arguably "the best part" the worst part is certainly cuts. in a game where its all about having cross overs and bringing game characters from different games into one place, getting rid of characters that made it before is just hard to accept. hopefully for once we will get a smash game without cuts.

Etika will literally die because of Ridley

 

[PLATINUM7]

Earlier this year, Konami's ReBirth series was rumoured to be coming to Switch, which of course, includes Castlevania ReBirth.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...bringing_its_wiiware_rebirth_series_to_switch

Possible connection to the compilation rumour here?

I'm glad we're getting all these other rumours so close to E3. We should get confirmation on whether this is all true or not soon, rather than having to wait for some time.