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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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StrangeMann

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If RelaxAlax, Emily Rogers and ResetEra Mods, Vergeben, and Gamefaqs smash switch board mods seem to agree on the fact that parts of the roster has been leaked, I think it's extremely likely that where there's smoke, there's fire (similar to last time with the gematsu leak).
 
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ColietheGoalie

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Once more, you're putting every Melee fan into a single stereotype. Consider the fact that a good chunk of Melee fans don't play highly competitive at all. The viewership numbers don't lie, as it consistently exceeds Smash 4's viewership by a large margin. I will again bring back the point I made earlier - do you really think current Nintendo, the new Nintendo that is going all-in for e-sports and competitive multiplayer games, will want their premier game to be from THREE (3) generations ago and almost two decades old?
Sorry, not intentionally trying to start any kind of Melee war. I’m admittedly super jet-lagged at the moment.

All I’m trying to get across is that I’m not sure going backwards mechanically is the answer. Hopefully the team has some amazing new stuff up their sleeves that will appeal to everyone and create the “ultimate” Smash game. Something competitive and casual alike will flock to. That’s the dream anyways.
 

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If RelaxAlax, Emily Rogers and ResetEra Mods, Vergeben, and Gamefaqs smash switch board mods seem to agree on the fact that parts of the roster has been leaked, I think it's extremely that where there's smoke, there's fire (similar to last time with the gematsu leak).
What did the restera mods do?
 

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If RelaxAlax, Emily Rogers and ResetEra Mods, Vergeben, and Gamefaqs smash switch board mods seem to agree on the fact that parts of the roster has been leaked, I think it's extremely that where there's smoke, there's fire (similar to last time with the gematsu leak).
Now the question remains whether we can make it two more weeks before anyone else snitches. ;P
 

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It's gonna be a lot longer than that. They won't reveal the entire roster at E3
Much that percolates under the surface only comes to light near an event. After E3 the credible murmuring will die down some.
 

StrangeMann

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Now the question remains whether we can make it two more weeks before anyone else snitches. ;P
I find it interesting you imply that someone has already come to public with this information, implying information about the roster has already reached public hands but will not be verified until further leaks or confirmation at E3. I wouldn't be shocked if this information is spreading like wildfire behind the scenes for the management of many smash websites. Regardless, I've only heard good things so far in most cases. Can't wait to see what rises up and above the competition. It's going to be a fun time.
 
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Zippo

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Wait

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Surely Pokemon or something right?
 
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I've always kinda wondered how people know that they've been given a legit leak or not, like with RelaxAlex. Like, what would tip him off more than some random fan DMing him a fake leak?
 

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RelaxAlax has apparently received info on who the new characters are as well. Looks like it's starting to go around to reputable sources. I can already guess other people who probably know now as well.
*See the Emily Roger Leak about the Ultimate Roster*

*See the Ice climber/ Simon Leak*

*See this tweet saying that even he couldn't have guessed the wildest Character and fan favourite will appear in this games*

*Look at how we joked about the imgur "leak" basically being everyone's wishlist and "not disappointing" enought*

*Sweatings intensifies*


 
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Bradli Wartooth

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Too bad many of these leakers haven't actually given us character names, so we're still basically in the dark, and without names we'll never know whether they're true or false leaks. Vergeben could be real, but the others just say "Cool roster incoming!" I'm not getting terribly hype about these leaks just because these nameless leaks essentially amount to nothing.
 

StrangeMann

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Surely Pokemon or something right?
Most likely Pokemon related, the information on that game is likely going to spill out before E3. In addition this dude is a Pokemon youtuber and smash info is unlikely until E3
 
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Zippo

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I've always kinda wondered how people know that they've been given a legit leak or not, like with RelaxAlex. Like, what would tip him off more than some random fan DMing him a fake leak?
I would assume it's probably a well connected source that they know personally.
 

N3ON

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I find it interesting you imply that someone has already come to public with this information, implying information about the roster has already reached public hands but will not be verified until further leaks or confirmation at E3. I wouldn't be shocked if this information is spreading like wildfire behind the scenes for the management of many smash websites. Regardless, I've only heard good things so far in most cases. Can't wait to see what rises up and above the competition. It's going to be a fun time.
Too bad many of these leakers haven't actually given us character names, so we're still basically in the dark, and without names we'll never know whether they're true or false leaks. Vergeben could be real, but the others just say "Cool roster incoming!" I'm not getting terribly hype about these leaks just because these nameless leaks essentially amount to nothing.
People might be thirsty for info, but there's also something to be said for the surprise of an unspoiled reveal. Look at Ryu's vs. Cloud's. If something else came to light at this point, the reveal may not be as special for some.

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Wait

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Surely Pokemon or something right?
I wouldn't hold your breath for anything Smash.
 

RandomAce

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STOP THIS!

These tweets are giving me so much hype right now, I really can’t take it anymore. E3 is just 2 weeks away, but it feels like forever.
 

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How can you be so sure?
Well, there's every Smash game after 64 not really being built from scratch as baseline evidence.
But, also there's the fact that the Switch is not as strong as the Wii U. It has slightly better colors or something like that, and I know of nothing else that makes it better graphically. Remaking character models would be a tremendous waste except for the ones that were basically ported from Brawl. For someone like WFT or Dedede there's literally no point at all in remodeling and animating them except to burn money.
 

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Wait

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Surely Pokemon or something right?
It seems very likely to be Pokemon-related, but I'm not exactly sure if it'll be the Switch games we're all expecting.

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Apparently, it seems like a group of hackers may have found long sought after Pokemon Gold beta cartridges. If they're legit, then this would be a discovery two decades in the making. The Pokemon Gold and Silver prototypes are some of the most sought out prototypes in all of gaming history, aside from maybe the Super Mario 64 Spaceworld 1995 prototype.

Not sure if this is something that would "break the gaming internet in half," but if legit, it would be an absolutely monumental find in terms of lost media.
 
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Captain Shwampy

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Just gonna say rn

Ashley and Syrup would be excellent.

You got 2 new Wario reps
Witches and Pirates both serve important ecological niches


Wario will get nothing and sakurai will continue the Wario Land erasure
 

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Sorry, not intentionally trying to start any kind of Melee war. I’m admittedly super jet-lagged at the moment.

All I’m trying to get across is that I’m not sure going backwards mechanically is the answer. Hopefully the team has some amazing new stuff up their sleeves that will appeal to everyone and create the “ultimate” Smash game. Something competitive and casual alike will flock to. That’s the dream anyways.
I agree, they shouldn't have removed tripping going from Brawl -> 4 because that's going backwards towards the Melee/64 design.

More seriously, I think acting like there's a teleology in the design of the series and that going back to something old is somehow a regression in the growth of quality the franchise has had is silly. Some things were bad and fixed, some things got changed for other reasons, like time, technical limitations, or Sakurai being fallible. L-Canceling can go to hell, but if they just made it so characters in general had combos and didn't have absurdly overpowered recoveries, that would be an improvement even if the series was there and left already.
 

KingBroly

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*random guy on twitter says they know something big

*random guy on twitter won't give a clue

Everyone: :|
 

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I’m just going to wait for the E3 stuff before o get all giddy with hype.

Not because I am not but because I want to wait and see before I set up for something too early.
 

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Damn, im late with this one DX.

Continuning with the each day to e3, a new castlevania tune from a completeley different game, for your ears only.

Today is the turn of Castlevania II, a game that was in an era were sequels wanted to experiment new things... altought not in the best way posible!

But hey, if zelda have taught us something, is that making your second game an open world 2d adventure filled with awkward dungeons and villages with npcs barely making sense of syntaxis... or words... is the key to success!

So get ready your graveyard ducks for Castlevania II Simon's Quest "Town theme"


Its late now, but lets just pretend that due to timezones, is still before midnight here so is still may 28th... after all... such a terrible night to have a curse!

 

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So everyone knows but everyone's being a tease about it.

It's gonna be a long two weeks...
 

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People might be thirsty for info, but there's also something to be said for the surprise of an unspoiled reveal. Look at Ryu's vs. Cloud's. If something else came to light at this point, the reveal may not be as special for some.
I'm not upset that they don't have names attached, I'm just not gaining any extra excitement/interest in these leaks because they contain no specific details.
 

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Wait

What

Surely Pokemon or something right?
Definitely about Pokémon if true, so many things point to it being revealed before E3, and there's no way they'll blow both of their E3 juggernauts before the event even starts. If we are to believe Vergeben then Ridley is scheduled to be revealed at E3 anyways, and I imagine that'd be with the game's actual reveal.
 

KingBroly

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Definitely about Pokémon if true, so many things point to it being revealed before E3, and there's no way they'll blow both of their E3 juggernauts before the event even starts. If we are to believe Vergeben then Ridley is scheduled to be revealed at E3 anyways, and I imagine that'd be with the game's actual reveal.
Considering serebii's latest tweet, it's gotta be Pokemon
 

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Why are people putting stock into anything Emily Rogers says? She has a terrible track record and deletes her wrong predictions constantly (she's deleted her twitter over false rumors). "Ultimate roster (no examples given)" is less than nothing, it's "fill in the blank space with what YOU want so you'll believe it".
 
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Staarih

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Yeah, something that "breaks the internet" within these days is most likely Pokémon, there's been a lot of babbling about new games being revealed at the end of this month. I guess we'll know (or not?) soon enough.

Anyway, I finally had a Smash-related dream last night. Nothing too special, it had Mario and Link heading towards some dark place (as in to fight some baddie) and for some reason Shantae was riding a dragon with them as well lol. Best part though, Mimikyu joined them right before I woke up. I hardly ever have dream nowadays so that was refreshing haha! Guess the hype is growing in me.
 
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It seems very likely to be Pokemon-related, but I'm not exactly sure if it'll be the Switch games we're all expecting.

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Apparently, it seems like a group of hackers may have found long sought after Pokemon Gold beta cartridges. If they're legit, then this would be a discovery two decades in the making. The Pokemon Gold and Silver prototypes are some of the most sought out prototypes in all of gaming history, aside from maybe the Super Mario 64 Spaceworld 1995 prototype.

Not sure if this is something that would "break the gaming internet in half," but if legit, it would be an absolutely monumental find in terms of lost media.
Oh my God, if we see more of the scrapped G/S era Pokemon, I hope some are as cute as these:



The art style they had going was so good, and I'm kinda hoping they have stuff in there that hasn't been seen before.
 

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What am I? Chopped liver?
No, you're Pac-Man... And what an unrelated response if I do say so my self.
What does chopped liver even have to do with my post? Lol

If you prefer Elma due to higher possibility, I actually agree.
 
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PSIguy89

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I remember when RelaxAlax just nothing more than just another member of smashboards who made his first YouTube video....*old man ramblings*
 
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