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I was more talking about newcomers. But they still hinted at Dark Pit and Game&Watch. And apart from Bowser Jr. and Duck Hunt (which they still made sure to make trailers for to hype up for the Wii U version), everyone else save Dr. Mario was a given.Didn't stopfrom not being officially revealed as playable characters before the Japanese release of Smash 4 3DS.
I really don't want to start this argument again, but all I will say is that Sakurai could go either way with unlockables after he considered but decided against leaving everyone on the base roster for Wii U unlocked from the start. Unlockables have been a staple of Smash, but it's understandable if some people don't want to have to put up with it and just have everyone available asap.
I think what the original poster meant by that was that a lot of the kids in the Minecraft community are known for being....... welll...... you know........ kinda........ okay, fine. Toxic. (But that's still not really a good reason to not include Steve)
I mean to a point the minute the ''Challenger Approaching!" siren and the shadow-y silhouette went mostly away in Brawl and Wii U/3DS that tradition was ruined already. In Brawl if you went through Subspace you knew everyone already.
There's a tradition however of Sakurai easing off the concept of the unlockable to the point it's so easy to get everyone? He might as well just shove them all on the select screen from the start.
True, but it was still a time commitment though. Apart from Marth, it was at least a few hours long to get some of the major unlockable characters like Falco, Snake, ROB, etc. Then the total hell that was the great maze and Tabuu to get Sonic, Jiggz, Toon Link, and Wolf.
That and smash bros invented you have to also defeat the characater to unlock them after the condition
That's also an issue I had. I'm not saying characters should be mega hard to unlock, but they should have been a lot more difficult to unlock than they were in Smash 4.
Good point.
That's actually the best way to go about it imo, it's not like SSE was something that was quick to get to, it's certainly better than "play *insert number* of matches"
Eh. It didn't really invent that though. Mortal Kombat kinda has the claim of ''Secret characters that are hidden that you can unlock."
Back in my day, unlockable characters took time and effort to unlock.
No when you beat reptile in mk1 you don't unlock him
Did people even datamine the demo? I'm pretty sure by the time the demo came around we already knew everything there was to know from Smash 3DS given the ERSB leak and the early Japanese release.
Unless you're talking of later games (which I wouldn't know about for sure), the only secret fighters in the early MKs are the ones you can fight against by doing the steps to encounter them, not any you can unlock and play as.
I was referring to MK3 and onwards, but even the early secret hidden character is a paving stone for Smash's unlockables.
I would love that lol.
What do you think your brother will do with those $20?
Im getting Chrom and Chorus Kids flashbacks.
While I was able to complete Classic on intensity 9.0 in Smash 3DS, being required to do that without losing a single life in Smash Wii U is too much, especially whenever 8-player bouts are inevitable.
If I have to unlock Pit of all people, then I’d have to start a rampage only to start crying in a sad man’s corner
Did you do it without customs?
Plausible, but there would have to be a "alternatively, unlock by playing this # of vs matches" cause some kiddies might not be able to beat a level 9. And a sad casual crowd makes a sad sakurai.
In Smash 3DS, I only completed intensity 9.0 by sticking with the easy routes, along with a defensive customization. Even then, I had to retry multiple times, but at least most of my troubles primarily occurred against Master Core.
Game accurate.
Add that to the list of Cranky Kong assist trophy quotes
I foolishly went through the harder path with and without customs as Bowser just because I wanted to complete a challenge and gain Bowser Jr at the same time...also because they had trophies I wanted (and Master Core almost made me lose on my first try, which I was not gonna allow for Pimp Daddy
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The thing is, there really aren't many other 3rd party characters that are more marketable, iconic, AND recognizable than Steve, whether people know the avatar from Minecraft has a name or not. I would hazard to guess Lara Croft is the only one, only thanks to her movies.
Personally I'd compromise.
