Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Questionmark222]

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

I'll probably beat Shovel Knight after I finish my exams on the 7th. And I'll keep my fingers crossed for my boy Wolf to come back...

 

[Antimatter042]

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

I've got a D&D campaign to plan and start running, but aside from that nothing huge. Grinding Trust in Xenoblade 2 just got way more feasible with the newest update, so I'll spend some time doing that and playing Mario + Rabbids.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

Got hired for a job recently, so that definitely helps.

That and I'm getting a PS4 with Doom 2016 and Final Fantasy Dissidia NT soon, so hopefully there'll be enough content to keep me going until E3 comes by.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I was going to say that Pit didn't have official shirtless art, but he apparently does.

Spoiler

Shirtless Pit is a thing after he almost died saving both Palutena and Dark Pit from a possession and death

 

[Zeox]

There is something that people forget when we talk about this Smash.
People compare how other smash games got new reps that were relevant or from recent games, and you assume this will happen with this smash too.
But then there is the ballot, that thing changed everything.
Now Sakurai have a list of the most wanted characters from the fans in smash, he easily could grab the top 50, look at each character, judge them and see what characters have a bigger potential with move sets, alts, and how represented is that franchise.
Because if you give the fans the exact characters they want (minus of course impossible or meme characters), you will generate more hype and sell a lot more games and switch consoles.
With this I want to say that we should stop thinking that much in "what franchises have been relevant recently" and think more of "what characters could get in better position in the ballot and who didn't".

 

[Arcadenik]

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

Since I am in Facebook jail for 30 days, I guess I will play Animal Crossing Pocket Camp and be on here.

 

[RineYFD]

So.. Um... Came across this today. I guess I'll also give an in-depth story too. Whilst I do live outside of America I was lurking on the American version of Amazon. Don't ask me why I guess I was checking to see if there was anything out of place(That and I'm very impatient for information for the game and decided to check some sites out) And it just so happens there is.

Smash is releasing around this year around December 31st apparently according to this image. I put some red boxes around the text I found. Sorry If it may seem clickbaity but I couldn't figure out a better way to make it stand out. I absolutely swear I did not edit this whatsoever except me clipping the two images together and putting the red boxes around the information I'm sharing. I am warning all of you do not trust this completely. This could be another mistake Amazon has made with Smash Bros. It could just be like the Tower of Smash leak that was going around before Smash Bros Wii U released., Hell even I'm skeptical of this myself. I am not sure if this information has already been shared but I am posting this anyways. You can check if you want for proof. May want to do it now before Amazon fixes it.
Link to the page: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Smash-Bros-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01N5OKGLH

 

[Murlough]

There is something that people forget when we talk about this Smash.
People compare how other smash games got new reps that were relevant or from recent games, and you assume this will happen with this smash too.
But then there is the ballot, that thing changed everything.
Now Sakurai have a list of the most wanted characters from the fans in smash, he easily could grab the top 50, look at each character, judge them and see what characters have a bigger potential with move sets, alts, and how represented is that franchise.
Because if you give the fans the exact characters they want (minus of course impossible or meme characters), you will generate more hype and sell a lot more games and switch consoles.
With this I want to say that we should stop thinking that much in "what franchises have been relevant recently" and think more of "what characters could get in better position in the ballot and who didn't".

I think both are equally practical. Sakurai is not gonna stop working on putting new series in Smash because he has the ballot. And he is not gonna only focus on new series because he does have the ballot.

It makes the most sense, at least to me, to take advantage of both. Surprise factor is one of the best hype generators. If he solely focuses on one of the other than the surprise factor quickly falls apart.

So.. Um... Came across this today. I guess I'll also give an in-depth story too. Whilst I do live outside of America I was lurking on the American version of Amazon. Don't ask me why I guess I was checking to see if there was anything out of place(That and I'm very impatient for information for the game and decided to check some sites out) And it just so happens there is.

Smash is releasing around this year around December 31st apparently according to this image. I put some red boxes around the text I found. Sorry If it may seem clickbaity but I couldn't figure out a better way to make it stand out. I absolutely swear I did not edit this whatsoever except me clipping the two images together and putting the red boxes around the information I'm sharing. I am warning all of you do not trust this completely. This could be another mistake Amazon has made with Smash Bros. It could just be like the Tower of Smash leak that was going around before Smash Bros Wii U released., Hell even I'm skeptical of this myself. I am not sure if this information has already been shared but I am posting this anyways. You can check if you want for proof. May want to do it now before Amazon fixes it.
Link to the page: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Smash-Bros-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01N5OKGLH

This is something that has been leaked for other games in the past. It may just be a placeholder date.

 

[viewtifulduck82]

So.. Um... Came across this today. I guess I'll also give an in-depth story too. Whilst I do live outside of America I was lurking on the American version of Amazon. Don't ask me why I guess I was checking to see if there was anything out of place(That and I'm very impatient for information for the game and decided to check some sites out) And it just so happens there is.

Smash is releasing around this year around December 31st apparently according to this image. I put some red boxes around the text I found. Sorry If it may seem clickbaity but I couldn't figure out a better way to make it stand out. I absolutely swear I did not edit this whatsoever except me clipping the two images together and putting the red boxes around the information I'm sharing. I am warning all of you do not trust this completely. This could be another mistake Amazon has made with Smash Bros. It could just be like the Tower of Smash leak that was going around before Smash Bros Wii U released., Hell even I'm skeptical of this myself. I am not sure if this information has already been shared but I am posting this anyways. You can check if you want for proof. May want to do it now before Amazon fixes it.
Link to the page: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Smash-Bros-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01N5OKGLH

Its just a place holder date

 

[monadoboy]

December 31

December 31 is always a placeholder date.
Edit :

 

[DYED]

Smash is releasing around this year around December 31st apparently according to this image. I put some red boxes around the text I found. Sorry If it may seem clickbaity but I couldn't figure out a better way to make it stand out. I absolutely swear I did not edit this whatsoever except me clipping the two images together and putting the red boxes around the information I'm sharing. I am warning all of you do not trust this completely. This could be another mistake Amazon has made with Smash Bros. It could just be like the Tower of Smash leak that was going around before Smash Bros Wii U released., Hell even I'm skeptical of this myself. I am not sure if this information has already been shared but I am posting this anyways. You can check if you want for proof. May want to do it now before Amazon fixes it.
Link to the page: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Smash-Bros-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01N5OKGLH

Amazon puts the last day of the year as placeholder when they got the year but not the actual date.

 

[Garteam]

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

I'm currently waiting to hear back on a summer job I applied to 2 weeks ago. That makes the days go by quickly. Otherwise, I finally got ahold of an SNES Classic Edition a week ago so I have plenty of games to tie me over

So.. Um... Came across this today. I guess I'll also give an in-depth story too. Whilst I do live outside of America I was lurking on the American version of Amazon. Don't ask me why I guess I was checking to see if there was anything out of place(That and I'm very impatient for information for the game and decided to check some sites out) And it just so happens there is.

Smash is releasing around this year around December 31st apparently according to this image. I put some red boxes around the text I found. Sorry If it may seem clickbaity but I couldn't figure out a better way to make it stand out. I absolutely swear I did not edit this whatsoever except me clipping the two images together and putting the red boxes around the information I'm sharing. I am warning all of you do not trust this completely. This could be another mistake Amazon has made with Smash Bros. It could just be like the Tower of Smash leak that was going around before Smash Bros Wii U released., Hell even I'm skeptical of this myself. I am not sure if this information has already been shared but I am posting this anyways. You can check if you want for proof. May want to do it now before Amazon fixes it.
Link to the page: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Smash-Bros-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01N5OKGLH

That's definitely a placeholder date, once we get a confirmed release date (probably at E3) then it will change

 

[SquashiniKun]

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

I might get a switch this summer, til then i'm just going to chill and let things happen, i guess.

 

[Zeox]

I think both are equally practical. Sakurai is not gonna stop working on putting new series in Smash because he has the ballot. And he is not gonna only focus on new series because he does have the ballot.

It makes the most sense, at least to me, to take advantage of both. Surprise factor is one of the best hype generators. If he solely focuses on one of the other than the surprise factor quickly falls apart.

Mmmhhh... yeah, you are right, is better to grab the best of both world.

 

[SmashChu]

So here is something I've wanted to do and its something I think is relevant with all the leaks.

I mentioned earlier how all of the characters (sans classic and guest) were present in recent titles. I expect that will remain true in the next game as well. So, I wanted to make a list of the character population, so to speak. Basically, these would be the characters that we could reasonably expect to see. These are all the characters who had an appearance between 2014 and 2017.

Toad - (Mario series, Various)*
Captain Toad - (Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker 2014)*
Waluigi - (Mario series, various)
Paper Mario - (Paper Mario Color Splash 2016)
Pauline - (Super Mario Odyssey 2017)
Dixie Kong - (Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze 2014)
Midna - (Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Impa - (Hyrule Warriors 2015)
Mipha - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Urbosa - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Daruk - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ravali - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ridley - (Metroid Samus Returns 2017)
Bandanna Dee - (Various, Kirby series)
Slippy - (Starfox Zero/Starfox Guard 2016)
Gen 7th Pokemon - (Pokemon Sun.Moon 2016)
Eevee - (Pokemon series, various)**
Lyn - (various, namely Fire Emblem Heroes 2017)**
Alm - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Celica - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Isabelle - (Animal Crossing series, various)***
Elma - (Xenoblade Chronicles X 2014)
Rex/Pyra - (Xenoblade Chronicles 2 2017)
Springman - (ARMS 2017)
Ribbon Girl - (ARMS 2017)
1-2-Switch Person (1-2-Switch 2017)
Henry Flemming - (Codename STEAM 2015)
Qbby - (BoxBoy! 2015)
Dillon - (Dillon's Rolling Western series)****
Chibi Robo - (Chibi Robo Zip Lash 2015)
Rhythm Heaven - (Rhythm Heaven Megamix 2015)

* - These characters are mutually exclusive
** - Adding mostly because of popularity. For Eevee if the Pokemon rumors are true, it helps
*** - You could put numerous AC characters here, but I chose Isabelle as she's the most popular
**** - Dillon's last game before Dead Heat Breakers (2018) was in 2013. Thats outside the range but I decided to add it since the character has been in a few games. I should add that the team that made it also made Chibi-Robo Ziplash which came out 2015 so its possible Dead Heat Breaker's development could influence his chances

I tried my best to make this list as comprehensive as possible. I'm not saying all these characters will happen or that all of them are likely. This is just to show who could reasonably be in the next game. If you think there is someone I should have added, let me know.

EDIT: Added a few characters based on people's suggestions (Impa, Midna, Lyn) and Rhythm Heaven since it did get a game and could get a character.

 

[Arcadenik]

Summary from the earlier-posted thread:
https://prnt.sc/jn4m3z
Also Takamaru was "confirmed"
And this is plainly fake, it's obvious from the second sentence of the OP. It's just a game to briefly have attention like the rest of these are.

Waluigi? Uhhh… I could live with that, I guess. No Toad? Sad to hear but I expected that.

Dragon Quest character sounds good. Maybe it could be Dragon Warrior, the protagonist from the original game, or Eight, the protagonist from Dragon Quest VIII (my first and favorite Dragon Quest game).

 

[RineYFD]

December 31 is always a placeholder date.
Edit :

Oh. Sorry for making a big deal out of this then. I just thought it was interesting.
Well i guess since we are on the subject on Amazon check out some of the asked questions section for the game on Amazon.com. It's godamn hilarious(For me anyways I don't know if any of you will find it funny).
I even found this nice review on the UK version of Amazon that someone managed to despite the fact that the game isn't even out.

Edit: 274 people found that review helpful.

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

Playing Smash Bros 3DS to constantly keep my uncontrollable hype for E3 tame. Also playing Pokemon Ultra Moon, Crash N. Sane trilogy, Super Mario Odyssey, Kingdom Hearts II and Breath of the Wild as minor distractions.

 

[Murlough]

So here is something I've wanted to do and its something I think is relevant with all the leaks.

I mentioned earlier how all of the characters (sans classic and guest) were present in recent titles. I expect that will remain true in the next game as well. So, I wanted to make a list of the character population, so to speak. Basically, these would be the characters that we could reasonably expect to see. These are all the characters who had an appearance between 2014 and 2017.

Toad - (Mario series, Various)*
Captain Toad - (Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker 2014)*
Waluigi - (Mario series, various)
Paper Mario - (Paper Mario Color Splash 2016)
Pauline - (Super Mario Odyssey 2017)
Dixie Kong - (Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze 2014)
Mipha - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Urbosa - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Daruk - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ravali - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ridley - (Metroid Samus Returns 2017)
Bandanna Dee - (Various, Kirby series)
Slippy - (Starfox Zero/Starfox Guard 2016)
Gen 7th Pokemon - (Pokemon Sun.Moon 2016)
Eevee - (Pokemon series, various)**
Alm - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Celica - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Isabelle - (Animal Crossing series, various)***
Elma - (Xenoblade Chronicles X 2014)
Rex/Pyra - (Xenoblade Chronicles 2 2017)
Springman - (ARMS 2017)
Ribbon Girl - (ARMS 2017)
1-2-Switch Person (1-2-Switch 2017)
Henry Flemming - (Codename STEAM 2015)
Qbby - (BoxBoy! 2015)
Dillon - (Dillon's Rolling Western series)****
Chibi Robo - (Chibi Robo Zip Lash 2015)

* - These characters are mutually exclusive
** - Adding mostly because of popularity though, if the Pokemon rumors are true, it helps
*** - You could put numerous AC characters here, but I chose Isabelle as she's the most popular
**** - Dillon's last game before Dead Heat Breakers (2018) was in 2013. Thats outside the range but I decided to add it since the character has been in a few games. I should add that the team that made it also made Chibi-Robo Ziplash which came out 2015 so its possible Dead Heat Breaker's development could influence his chances

I tried my best to make this list as comprehensive as possible. I'm not saying all these characters will happen or that all of them are likely. This is just to show who could reasonably be in the next game. If you think there is someone I should have added, let me know.

What game did Waluigi appear that Daisy didn't? Didn't she appear in the rerelease of Mario Kart for Switch?

 

[SmashChu]

What game did Waluigi appear that Daisy didn't? Didn't she appear in the rerelease of Mario Kart for Switch?

They've appeared in the same games. I included Waluigi as people are asking for him more than, say, Daisy. I believe when Reddit did a poll, Waluigi was actually the most popular character. Why I kept him. Daisy has pretty much just be relegated to a costume at this point.

 

[Murlough]

They've appeared in the same games. I included Waluigi as people are asking for him more than, say, Daisy. I believe when Reddit did a poll, Waluigi was actually the most popular character. Why I kept him. Daisy has pretty much just be relegated to a costume at this point.

I'm really not trying to be that guy but you make a list of characters that appeared in the last few years, which is a great idea, and then selectively choose to not include certain characters because there are people who seem to prefer Waluigi. What if she's more popular in Japan?

According to her wikia (which is apparently a thing....) she is the 2nd most prominant female character in video games. Only Peach has appeared in more. (Dunno how credible that is but I can't say I don't believe it.)

She appeared 4 times in 2014, 6 times in 2015, 5 times in 2016, and 5 times in 2017. I really, really am not trying to look like a rabid Daisy fan but it seems like you are not putting her in out of bias. Once again, I like your idea but some groups preferring one character is not a reason to exclude another.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

How so?
I kind of lost track of the thread.

Also that thread from Mercer is obviously fake.
It relies too much on the already debunked "leaks" we got in the past month.

http://prntscr.com/jn7g62
Pretty sure it's not Goroh

 

[TMNTSSB4]

So here is something I've wanted to do and its something I think is relevant with all the leaks.

I mentioned earlier how all of the characters (sans classic and guest) were present in recent titles. I expect that will remain true in the next game as well. So, I wanted to make a list of the character population, so to speak. Basically, these would be the characters that we could reasonably expect to see. These are all the characters who had an appearance between 2014 and 2017.

Toad - (Mario series, Various)*
Captain Toad - (Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker 2014)*
Waluigi - (Mario series, various)
Paper Mario - (Paper Mario Color Splash 2016)
Pauline - (Super Mario Odyssey 2017)
Dixie Kong - (Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze 2014)
Mipha - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Urbosa - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Daruk - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ravali - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ridley - (Metroid Samus Returns 2017)
Bandanna Dee - (Various, Kirby series)
Slippy - (Starfox Zero/Starfox Guard 2016)
Gen 7th Pokemon - (Pokemon Sun.Moon 2016)
Eevee - (Pokemon series, various)**
Alm - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Celica - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Isabelle - (Animal Crossing series, various)***
Elma - (Xenoblade Chronicles X 2014)
Rex/Pyra - (Xenoblade Chronicles 2 2017)
Springman - (ARMS 2017)
Ribbon Girl - (ARMS 2017)
1-2-Switch Person (1-2-Switch 2017)
Henry Flemming - (Codename STEAM 2015)
Qbby - (BoxBoy! 2015)
Dillon - (Dillon's Rolling Western series)****
Chibi Robo - (Chibi Robo Zip Lash 2015)

* - These characters are mutually exclusive
** - Adding mostly because of popularity though, if the Pokemon rumors are true, it helps
*** - You could put numerous AC characters here, but I chose Isabelle as she's the most popular
**** - Dillon's last game before Dead Heat Breakers (2018) was in 2013. Thats outside the range but I decided to add it since the character has been in a few games. I should add that the team that made it also made Chibi-Robo Ziplash which came out 2015 so its possible Dead Heat Breaker's development could influence his chances

I tried my best to make this list as comprehensive as possible. I'm not saying all these characters will happen or that all of them are likely. This is just to show who could reasonably be in the next game. If you think there is someone I should have added, let me know.

Technically there’s been more Fire Emblem and Zelda characters who have appeared during those times on a game console

 

[SmashChu]

Technically there’s been more Fire Emblem and Zelda characters who have appeared during those times on a game console

Well, I didn't include Fates as Corrin is already in and I know nothing about Heroes. I don't know what Zelda characters there could be. Only remember Triforce Heroes being released.

If you got someone specific, speak up. I'm sure I just missed some

 

[Opossum]

Well, I didn't include Fates as Corrin is already in and I know nothing about Heroes. I don't know what Zelda characters there could be. Only remember Triforce Heroes being released.

If you got someone specific, speak up. I'm sure I just missed some

I think he's mostly referring to both franchises' Warriors games.

 

[SmashChu]

I think he's mostly referring to both franchises' Warriors games.

Those may be odd. I think Koie Tecmo handles all the Warrior games. Nintendo doesn't even select the release or report the sales. So I'm not sure how to treat the characters specifically made for that. You can make a case for Impa though, so I'll add her.

 

[Opossum]

Those may be odd. I think Koie Tecmo handles all the Warrior games. Nintendo doesn't even select the release or report the sales. So I'm not sure how to treat the characters specifically made for that. You can make a case for Impa though, so I'll add her.

For whatever it may be worth, we know that Nintendo/Nintendo and Intelligent Systems have some degree of control over things. For example, in Fire Emblem Warriors, Lucina wasn't originally on the roster, but Nintendo and IS basically forced their hand there and had them add her. Same sort of thing happened with Lyn and Celica later on, actually.

More of a fun fact than anything though, as being in a Warriors title isn't too big since, well, lots of characters got into those games.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

バカ translates to moron or idiot, the leak is pretty much BS.

I'm not leaking newcomers because I like you or anything, b-baka!
I find it weird how people are reporting on that like it's some significant find when it's almost certainly just an anime meme. The post is obviously a lie, but that is not the reason.

 

[Knight Dude]

I'm sure the ballot will have some huge influence on who's gonna be in this game, but I still think certain characters from recent games might have a shot. Though one's definition of "huge" will vary. I don't think we'll have as many newcomers this time around, but I could be wrong. Either way, I'm betting a couple characters will be ballot choices. Or at least they should be, since we've got 90% of the All-Stars and some of the most iconic 3rd Party characters in the video game industry.

Though, for this time around, I'm mostly hoping for Spring-Man, as ARMS' gameplay style would be interesting when going up against the wider variety of Smash characters. In ARMS, there's plenty to separate the fighters as is, but that mostly pertains to mobility and what weapons are their default set. However, no one in Smash plays like an ARMS fighter, and I think, at least mechanically and aesthetically(not that it matters much in a crossover fighting game), Spring-Man makes too much sense.

Other than him, and maybe Buzzwole, Dillon or Elma, there's no one from "recent games" I care too strongly for.

Since the Wii-U era didn't really have a ton of new notable characters, I think some more recent characters would be fine.

Though I'd just be happy with Mega Man and Ryu back.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I think he's mostly referring to both franchises' Warriors games.

Well, I didn't include Fates as Corrin is already in and I know nothing about Heroes. I don't know what Zelda characters there could be. Only remember Triforce Heroes being released.

If you got someone specific, speak up. I'm sure I just missed some

What the Possum said, but there’s also the HD remake of Twilight Princess that came out before the Switch+BOTW released

As for specific characters you got Lyn, the next FE Lord, Tetra, Skull Kid and Midna

 

[Murlough]

Just wanna add that Daisy has 60 pages in her support thread on this very website. I either missed Waluigi's thread, it had less than 10 pages, or the thread is dead. But yeah no this website doesn't count for anything.

Ridley was the only thread with more that had a recent post. Ridley has reached 65 pages, only 5 more than Daisy. But yeah totally no one wants her.

If you got someone specific, speak up. I'm sure I just missed some

"Unless I personally don't want the character."

I'm done now. If you are gonna be unjustifiably biased at least say so.

 

[Pakky]

I'm very curious where Bayonetta will be placed in the roster. She's such an oddity they may even group her with the first party characters. Nintendo definitely likes to treat her like she's a Nintendo character.

I mean at this point she is part of the family, she's like that sexy aunt, that's actually really cool.

Oh and always has candy for some reason.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I mean at this point she is part of the family, she's like that sexy aunt, that's actually really cool.

A sexy aunt who’s trying to kill two of her family members (poor )

I'm very curious where Bayonetta will be placed in the roster. She's such an oddity they may even group her with the first party characters. Nintendo definitely likes to treat her like she's a Nintendo character.

Maybe she’ll be next to cause Sega and how Sonic is also in treated like a Nintendo character (overall)...or Sakurai can be a troll and place her between and

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Yeah. I don't think anyone needs more than ''I like this character" to support them being in Smash.

I know I am exceptionally harsh on Daisy, but I can at least understand that her fans want her because she's you know her.

While I agree with what you're saying, I think the issue is the difference between simply liking the character, and then using the fact that someone likes the character to say they're likely.

I'm fortunate enough at this point to have most of my most liked characters in the game already. There are some characters I like and want in Smash, but know they aren't likely in the slightest, or may not be as likely as others.

Dillon is one of my most wanted. I'm not going to say he's super ultra mega hyper New! Funky Mode likely, but I'll stick by him. I think that's the best distinction to make.

(not to say Dillon ISN'T likely. I think he's got a good chance. But i'm not going to be like, "HE'S TOTALLY IN AND I WILL DIE BY THE BLADE DEFENDING HIM BECAUSE I LOVE HIM")

 

[P.Kat]

Well, I didn't include Fates as Corrin is already in and I know nothing about Heroes. I don't know what Zelda characters there could be. Only remember Triforce Heroes being released.

If you got someone specific, speak up. I'm sure I just missed some

Lyn from Fire Emblem definitely I have good feeling we might see her as a newcomer this around due to her popularity and recent appearance in FE heroes and FE Warriors.

 

[Pacack]

A sexy aunt who’s trying to kill two of her family members (poor )


Maybe she’ll be next to cause Sega and how Sonic is also in treated like a Nintendo character (overall)...or Sakurai can be a troll and place her between and

Honestly, I expect the third parties to be sorted by year of release. It makes a lot of sense to me when I look at it that way. Potential newcomers are in parentheses.

(Bomberman)(Simon Belmont)(Rayman)(Sora)(Shantae)(Steve?)(Shovel Knight)

It keeps everyone from the same companies together except Bayonetta, who's kinda a special case regardless with Nintendo. (Shantae for GBC was published by Capcom at first, but now WayForward does the publishing themselves.)

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

Just wanna add that Daisy has 60 pages in her support thread on this very website. I either missed Waluigi's thread, it had less than 10 pages, or the thread is dead. But yeah no this website doesn't count for anything.

>Implying our opinions on this website matter to anyone except us

 

[monadoboy]

Those may be odd. I think Koie Tecmo handles all the Warrior games. Nintendo doesn't even select the release or report the sales. So I'm not sure how to treat the characters specifically made for that. You can make a case for Impa though, so I'll add her.

iirc, Eiji Aonuma was heavily involved in Hyrule Warriors.

 

[Cosmic77]

So here is something I've wanted to do and its something I think is relevant with all the leaks.

I mentioned earlier how all of the characters (sans classic and guest) were present in recent titles. I expect that will remain true in the next game as well. So, I wanted to make a list of the character population, so to speak. Basically, these would be the characters that we could reasonably expect to see. These are all the characters who had an appearance between 2014 and 2017.

Toad - (Mario series, Various)*
Captain Toad - (Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker 2014)*
Waluigi - (Mario series, various)
Paper Mario - (Paper Mario Color Splash 2016)
Pauline - (Super Mario Odyssey 2017)
Dixie Kong - (Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze 2014)
Impa - (Hyrule Warriors 2015)
Mipha - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Urbosa - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Daruk - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ravali - (Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2017)
Ridley - (Metroid Samus Returns 2017)
Bandanna Dee - (Various, Kirby series)
Slippy - (Starfox Zero/Starfox Guard 2016)
Gen 7th Pokemon - (Pokemon Sun.Moon 2016)
Eevee - (Pokemon series, various)**
Alm - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Celica - (Fire Emblem Echos Shadows of Valentia 2017)
Isabelle - (Animal Crossing series, various)***
Elma - (Xenoblade Chronicles X 2014)
Rex/Pyra - (Xenoblade Chronicles 2 2017)
Springman - (ARMS 2017)
Ribbon Girl - (ARMS 2017)
1-2-Switch Person (1-2-Switch 2017)
Henry Flemming - (Codename STEAM 2015)
Qbby - (BoxBoy! 2015)
Dillon - (Dillon's Rolling Western series)****
Chibi Robo - (Chibi Robo Zip Lash 2015)

* - These characters are mutually exclusive
** - Adding mostly because of popularity though, if the Pokemon rumors are true, it helps
*** - You could put numerous AC characters here, but I chose Isabelle as she's the most popular
**** - Dillon's last game before Dead Heat Breakers (2018) was in 2013. Thats outside the range but I decided to add it since the character has been in a few games. I should add that the team that made it also made Chibi-Robo Ziplash which came out 2015 so its possible Dead Heat Breaker's development could influence his chances

I tried my best to make this list as comprehensive as possible. I'm not saying all these characters will happen or that all of them are likely. This is just to show who could reasonably be in the next game. If you think there is someone I should have added, let me know.

Seems like a good list. Wouldn't be surprised if 5-6 newcomers are on this list.

Also, I might add Cranky Kong to the list. He probably won't get added, but I think he's notable enough to be on the list.

 

[WaddleMatt]

Well, there seems to be a little fervor in the thread right now, so it might be best to cool it with a quick survey, yeah?

What do you plan on doing to make the two-week road to E3 less agonizing?

I don't necessarily have anything special planned. Basically, memes, sketches, and videos is all I have on my agenda, but I think it'll be enough to hold me over.

Unfortunatley for me, E3 is in the middle of my GCSE exams.

 

[Murlough]

>Implying our opinions on this website matter to anyone except us

....context.

I'm not saying my opinion matters at all. It was a counter-argument. He said he did not put Daisy on the list because he believes more people prefer Waluigi. I said that to give reasoning against that and pointed out it was unfair. I know ****ing well my opinion means nothing.

I'm just asking him to not be biased for two seconds and type 5 letters in his original post.