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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Guynamednelson

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So real question, if this leak is true and Mach Rider is in, will they be male or female?
Androgynous body shape, no voice, "they" pronouns are used on the blog and trophy descriptions. Mach Rider's gender debate shall live on.
 

Chrollo.

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The colouring looks totally different, even compared to normal real banner pictures, though I don't know if that's just the lighting in the room though.
Yeah, that's what I mean. The shapes of the clouds and such look rather the same, but the coloring is definitely different. No idea if its just straight up different or if its because of the lightning in both pics.
 

Cahalan

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Trying to crowd control a leak that is already so big would be to much effort on Nintendo's part
All I do remember is that the original videos related to that leak that were the gameplay stuff was taken down.

Anything that was reacting to the videos were taken down, and only a handful were re-uploaded (but censored)
 

Michael the Spikester

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The current votes.

1. :ultkrool: - 226
2. :ultridley: - 127
3.:ultinkling: - 86
4.:ultrichter: - 76
5.:ultsimon: - 74
6.:ultisabelle: - 48
7.:ultchrom: - 29
8.:ultdaisy: - 23
9.:ultdarksamus: - 18

Richter made quite the jump hasn't he?
 
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Starbound

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Honest question for the dual November directs speculation: what non-Smash games would be in a general direct that weren't in the September direct? I feel like we have a lot of games coming out in the next few months that we could be directless until like January, unless there are a lot of games missing the holiday season.
 

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Why is Isaac so small? I was team #itsreal all day, but after looking at it that tiny Isaac just screams "There wasn't enough space so I shrunk him." Sakurai wouldn't cut corners like that.
He's on his knees casting psychnergy
 

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
 
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Untouch

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Unfortunately, that little ruins area is covered up on every mural picture, it'd be right where Bowser/Ike are.
 

KingofPhantoms

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I'm kinda just waiting it out at this point.

I just hope, whether this ultimately proves true or false, and heck, no matter what characters we see on the base roster, that the majority of the community doesn't throw fits over certain characters getting/not getting in, or go on bragging to and mocking people unjustly over who was right or wrong about whatever, this time.

I'd like to think we as a community should have grown better than that by now. At least overall.
 

MrHomelessHobo

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.

So it's fake then.

Pack it up, its over fellas.
 

MamaLuigi123456

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I'm not believing any of these "insiders" unless they have information that goes beyond "hm, this looks like someone's wishlist". Like, ************ did you not catch the memo that Ultimate's focus is fan requests? It's not heroes vs. villains, it's not who plays uniquely compared to others, it's not the flavor of the week, it's the characters who have been requested since the early Brawl days, and nearly every newcomer in this roster fits that criteria to a tee.

Name an "insider" and I'll tell you at least three things they were fed bogus about. Remember Star Fox Grand Prix? Remember Pokemon Stars? Remember the Splatoon port?
 

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Yeah, that's what I was worried about. It's clearly different. They could have changed the backgrounds between different times but why would they need to? Don't know if this breaks the leak, but I feel like it hurts it.
The only way the leak has to survive is if someone finds the proof that the background has been changed over time, else, the leak is dead.
Though, the background from the leak has less details (missing ruins, simpler shapes), so it's more likely to just be fake.
I noticed that the background was different way before that picture of the official blank background was found, though nobody believed me.
 

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What would Mach Rider's moveset even be like? Driving around the stage at full speed on her motorcyle and knocking everyone off the stage? That's just an idea i had in my mind.
 

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see an evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
Impressive eye. That's quite a difference. In your personal opinion do you think these differences are the result of it being fabricated or a change in design for the final version?
 

VGPhaze

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HOW THE GRINCH STOLE SMASMASS

Every fan down in Smashville liked hype a lot…
But the Grinch, who lived somewhere in France, DID NOT!
The Grinch hated hype-ing! The whole pre-release season!
Now please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.

It could be he was sick of all the fake leaks.
It could be, perhaps, he could not wait 6 weeks.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
Was he knew Verg’s roster was two sizes too small.

Whatever the reason, the size or the wait,
He stood there on Wednesday, ready for hate.
Staring down at the banner with a sour, Grinchy frown,
At unreleased characters – ****’s about to go down.

For he knew every fan down in Smashville online,
Were caught in a drought, just passing the time.
“And they’re talking about Skull Kid!” He snarled with a sneer,
“Next month is Ultimate! It’s practically here!”

Then he growled, with his Grinch fingers nervously humming,
“I must tell them somehow, they won’t see it coming!”
For each day he knew all the smash boys and smash girls,
Would cling to new leaks, it might make him hurl.

And then! Oh, the posts! Oh, the posts!
Posts! Posts! Posts!
That’s one thing he hated! The posts!
POSTS! POSTS! POSTS!

Then the fans young and old would talk and they’d guess.
And they’d guess! And they’d guess! And they’d GUESS!
GUESS! GUESS! GUESS!

They would guess there’d be Waddle Dee, and Minecraft’s own Steve.
Which was something the Grinch couldn’t stand to conceive.
And then they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every fan down in Smashville, the tall and the small,

Would all come together, like fish on a string.
Having taken the bait, oh to the threads they would cling!
His phone would ding! It would ding! Would Ding!
DING! DING! DING!

And the more the Grinch listened to his phone go ring ding,
The more the Grinch thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why, for 231 days I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fake leaks from coming! But how?”

Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRINCH GOT A WONDERFULLY AWFUL IDEA!
“I know just what to do!” The Grinch laughed in his throat.
And he broke out his laptop and started to gloat.

And he chuckled, and clucked, “What a great Grinchy trick!”
“With this promo poster I have, they’ll know it’s legit!”
“All I need is a platform…” The grinch searched around.
But since the fanbase is large, no new ones were found.

Did that stop the old Grinch? No! The Grinch simply yelled,
“If they can post on 4 chan, I’ll make one myself!”
So he took out a pan and took up a pad,
He wrote, and he wrote, the fans won’t be had!

Then he added some cuses and some deconfirms too,
“There’s no new playable Pokemon, oh no, boo hoo.”
Then the Grinch yelled “It’s done!” and so he clicked,
It was posted online, but soon he was ticked.

The board remained dark. Quiet posts filled the air.
All the fans disregarded his post without care.
He read the replies, of which their were few,
“This leak is fake! This guy has no clue!”

He stared at the screen, clenching his fist.
Translating from French to English was hardly a cinch.
He needed hard evidence, that much was clear.
But a photo? Too easily faked was his fear.

He thought and he thunk, about what he should do.
A video might cost him his job, that much was true.
“These characters,” he grinned, “the public must know!”
He knew it was time to put on a show.

He looked round the room, to make sure none could hear,
And he took out his phone, with much newfound cheer.
“And now!” grinned the Grinch “I’ll put them in a slum!”
He took out his phone, then took out his thumb.

He was swiping through apps, to decide what to use,
When he heard a loud sound, like the honk of a goose.
He turned around fast, and he saw the night-watchman,
It was Jack, oh how he hated this Scotsman.

The Grinch had been caught by this large man of honor,
Who’d seen the light left on, but the Grinch was no goner.
He stared at the Grinch and barked, “Oh Eric, why,”
“Why are you taking pics of this banner? WHY?”

But you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a lie and he thought it up quick!
“Why my sweet old friend Jack,” the Grinchy Eric lied,
“There was a rip in this banner messing it up on one side!”

“So I was asked to stay late and fix it, my dear.”
“I’m texting the boss about the new one right here.”
And his fib fooled the watchman. Then the Grinch shook his head,
“You’re keeping me from my work,” he said.

And when Jack the Scotsman went away in a huff,
The Grinch took out his phone and loaded it up!
He lined up the evidence onto a desk,
Opened up snapchat, and thought of something grotesque.

He started recording the leak right there with his phone,
Writing “**** you Nintendo lolllll” now all would be known!
He sent it along waiting for a response,
Someone screen-grabbed his snap with no nonchalance.

It was a quarter past midnight, some fans still in beds,
With dreams of Shantae and Elma in heads.
The Grinch he just sat, he sat, and he waited.
Happy with the silence he will have created.

Safe and anonymous, thanks to snapchat,
He’d surely put an end to speculation chitchat.
“PoohPooh to the fans!” he was Grinchishly humming.
“They’re finding out now no more surprises are coming!”

“They’re just waking up! I know what they’ll do!”
“Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the fans down in Smashville will all cry boohoo!”
“That’s a noise,” Grinned the Grinch, “That I simply MUST hear!”
So he paused. And the Grinch refreshed pages with cheer.

And he did read some words, flooding into the site.
It started out light, then his eyes widened in fright.
The words aren’t sad! Why, they sounded merry!
It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!

He stared down at Smashville and the Grinch popped his eyes!
To his core he was shook, he read a shocking surprise!
Every fan down in Smashville, both casual and hardcore,
Were cheering and cheering! With no surprises in store!

He hadn’t stopped leaks from coming, they came!
What’s worse, he found out, they'd discovered his name!
And the Grinch, with his grinch-ears ringing with dinging,
Stood puzzling, and puzzling, “To what are they clinging?”

“It came without Directs! Without trailer posts!
It came without Sakurai, Reggie, or treehouse live hosts!”
And he puzzled and puzzled, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before!

“Maybe hyping” he thought, “Doesn’t come from fake leaks.”
“Maybe hyping… perhaps… isn’t something so meek!”
And what happened then? Well in Smashville they say,
Smash Ultimate’s roster grew three sizes that day.

And the minute that Sakurai got word of the leak,
The cheers of his fans kept it from ruining his week.
The leaks they had come, but it hadn’t mattered.
The people were happy, and their hopes were untattered.

The trailers now could confirm restored hopes and new hype,
Hype that would keep ringing and dinging each night.
 
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Honest question for the dual November directs speculation: what non-Smash games would be in a general direct that weren't in the September direct? I feel like we have a lot of games coming out in the next few months that we could be directless until like January, unless there are a lot of games missing the holiday season.
Release dates for Final Fantasy VII, IX, XII, X + X-2 HD Remaster, Fire Emblem: Three Houses and timeframes for Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3 and possibly even a tease at Pokemon Gen 8 would be all good ideas to start off with.
 

KMDP

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Why is Isaac so small? I was team #itsreal all day, but after looking at it that tiny Isaac just screams "There wasn't enough space so I shrunk him." Sakurai wouldn't cut corners like that.
He seems to be down on one knee.

Also, he's a teenager (who in media are generally portrayed as pretty short).

Anyway, I have to go to bed.

Don't go too insane now.
 

Yatagarasu4

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So it's fake then.

Pack it up, its over fellas.
Some minor inconsistencies don't make it automatically fake, everyone was saying the Ken image leak was fake because of the clipping, but it seems that the ken leak was real
 

PhilosophicAnimal

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It's not your job to gate-keep what people can and can't believe, if they end up disappointed in the end, that's their problem, not yours.

Thank you, and have a nice day.
This. I honestly don't understand the motivation for gatekeeping in this way. Is it out of genuine concern for others, or to keep one's own hype in check, because if everyone else believes, then one begins to feel their view is less valid?

Somehow, I feel it's the latter. But seriously guys, it's FINE to believe it's fake, and trying to convince others to share your view, either by straight-up insulting them or though using a cautionary "you'll be sorry" approach to do it passive aggressively does NOT help your case, and is in fact completely unnecessary. Just believe what you want to.

The thing to do here is to remain cautious on the leak's actual validity, examine the data as objectively as possible (though this is HARD, as we all have horses in this race,) and then simply have a belief one way or another. Though really, you don't even have to pick a side to believe--you can just skip that part, and go true neutral. It really doesn't matter, because we currently can't prove this definitively anyway.

So basically...just be civil, guys, and don't command/shame others into feeling a certain way.

And yes, I am aware I'm sort of doing that now, lol. But at least I'm preaching mutual respect. You are all, of course, free to completely disregard this. I just hope it gets taken to heart, because this leak stuff is starting to heat up a bit too much...

With that said, I've spent a bizarre amount of time on this today. I think I need to step back for a bit. See you all later, and I hope I don't come back to a bloodsoaked empty battlefield.:p
 
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The DanMan051

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Did something kill it that I'm not aware of, or...?
Vaanrose just pointed out a ton of little differences between the "stripped" background shown at E3 and the one in the leak. Pretty heavily implying that the one in the leak was reverse engineered/redrawn from the available version with all the characters.
 
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Untouch

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Some minor inconsistencies don't make it automatically fake, everyone was saying the Ken image leak was fake because of the clipping, but it seems that the ken leak was real
Err the inconsistencies like the clipping helped prove it right.
 

Good Guy Giygas

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What would Mach Rider's moveset even be like? Driving around the stage at full speed on her motorcyle and knocking everyone off the stage? That's just an idea i had in my mind.
Well the bike is weaponized, so I'm sure they could get creative with that. I'd like to see some actual motorcycle tricks being worked in as attacks too.
 

Wambo

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HOW THE GRINCH STOLE SMASMASS

Every fan down in Smashville liked hype a lot…
But the Grinch, who lived somewhere in France, DID NOT!
The Grinch hated hype-ing! The whole pre-release season!
Now please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.

It could be he was sick of all the fake leaks.
It could be, perhaps, he could not wait 6 weeks.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
Was he knew Verg’s roster was two sizes too small.

Whatever the reason, the size or the wait,
He stood there on Wednesday, ready for hate.
Staring down at the banner with a sour, Grinchy frown,
At unreleased characters – ****’s about to go down.

For he knew every fan down in Smashville online,
Were caught in a drought, just passing the time.
“And they’re talking about Skull Kid!” He snarled with a sneer,
“Next month is Ultimate! It’s practically here!”

Then he growled, with his Grinch fingers nervously humming,
“I must tell them somehow, they won’t see it coming!”
For each day he knew all the smash boys and smash girls,
Would cling to new leaks, it might make him hurl.

And then! Oh, the posts! Oh, the posts!
Posts! Posts! Posts!
That’s one thing he hated! The posts!
POSTS! POSTS! POSTS!

Then the fans young and old would talk and they’d guess.
And they’d guess! And they’d guess! And they’d GUESS!
GUESS! GUESS! GUESS!

They would guess there’d be Waddle Dee, and Minecraft’s own Steve.
Which was something the Grinch couldn’t stand to conceive.
And then they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every fan down in Smashville, the tall and the small,

Would all come together, like fish on a string.
Having taken the bait, oh to the threads they would cling!
His phone would ding! It would ding! Would Ding!
DING! DING! DING!

And the more the Grinch listened to his phone go ring ding,
The more the Grinch thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why, for 231 days I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fake leaks from coming! But how?”

Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRINCH GOT A WONDERFULLY AWFUL IDEA!
“I know just what to do!” The Grinch laughed in his throat.
And he broke out his laptop and started to gloat.

And he chuckled, and clucked, “What a great Grinchy trick!”
“With this promo poster I have, they’ll know it’s legit!”
“All I need is a platform…” The grinch searched around.
But since the fanbase is large, no new ones were found.

Did that stop the old Grinch? No! The Grinch simply yelled,
“If they can post on 4 chan, I’ll make one myself!”
So he took out a pan and took up a pad,
He wrote, and he wrote, the fans won’t be had!

Then he added some cuses and some deconfirms too,
“There’s no new playable Pokemon, oh no, boo hoo.”
Then the Grinch yelled “It’s done!” and so he clicked,
It was posted online, but soon he was ticked.

The board remained dark. Quiet posts filled the air.
All the fans disregarded his post without care.
He read the replies, of which their were few,
“This leak is fake! This guy has no clue!”

He stared at the screen, clenching his fist.
Translating from French to English was hardly a cinch.
He needed hard evidence, that much was clear.
But a photo? Too easily faked was his fear.

He thought and he thunk, about what he should do.
A video might cost him his job, that much was true.
“These characters,” he grinned, “the public must know!”
He knew it was time to put on a show.

He looked round the room, to make sure none could hear,
And he took out his phone, with much newfound cheer.
“And now!” grinned the Grinch “I’ll put them in a slum!”
He took out his phone, then took out his thumb.

He was swiping through apps, to decide what to use,
When he heard a loud sound, like the honk of a goose.
He turned around fast, and he saw the night-watchman,
It was Jack, oh how he hated this Scotsman.

The Grinch had been caught by this large man of honor,
Who’d seen the light left on, but the Grinch was no goner.
He stared at the Grinch and barked, “Oh Eric, why,”
“Why are you taking pics of this banner? WHY?”

But you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a lie and he thought it up quick!
“Why my sweet old friend Jack,” the Grinchy Eric lied,
“There was a rip in this banner messing it up on one side!”

“So I was asked to stay late and fix it, my dear.”
“I’m texting the boss about the new one right here.”
And his fib fooled the watchman. Then the Grinch shook his head,
“You’re keeping me from my work,” he said.

And when Jack the Scotsman went away in a huff,
The Grinch took out his phone and loaded it up!
He lined up the evidence onto a desk,
Opened up snapchat, and thought of something grotesque.

He started recording the leak right there with his phone,
Writing “**** you Nintendo lolllll” now all would be known!
He sent it along waiting for a response,
Someone screen-grabbed his snap with no nonchalance.

It was a quarter past midnight, some fans still in beds,
With dreams of Shantae and Elma in heads.
The Grinch he just sat, he sat, and he waited.
Happy with the silence he will have created.

Safe and anonymous, thanks to snapchat,
He’d surely put an end to speculation chitchat.
“PoohPooh to the fans!” he was Grinchishly humming.
“They’re finding out now no more surprises are coming!”

“They’re just waking up! I know what they’ll do!”
“Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the fans down in Smashville will all cry boohoo!”
“That’s a noise,” Grinned the Grinch, “That I simply MUST hear!”
So he paused. And the Grinch refreshed pages with cheer.

And he did read some words, flooding into the site.
It started out light, then his eyes widened in fright.
The words aren’t sad! Why, they sounded merry!
It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!

He stared down at Smashville and the Grinch popped his eyes!
To his core he was shook, he read a shocking surprise!
Every fan down in Smashville, both casual and hardcore,
Were cheering and cheering! With no surprises in store!

He hadn’t stopped leaks from coming, they came!
What’s worse, he found out, they'd discovered his name!
And the Grinch, with his grinch-ears ringing with dinging,
Stood puzzling, and puzzling, “To what are they clinging?”

“It came without Directs! Without trailer posts!
It came without Sakurai, Reggie, or treehouse live hosts!”
And he puzzled and puzzled, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before!

“Maybe hyping” he thought, “Doesn’t come from fake leaks.”
“Maybe hyping… perhaps… isn’t something so meek!”
And what happened then? Well in Smashville they say,
Smash Ultimate’s roster grew three sizes that day.

And the minute that Sakurai got word of the leak,
The cheers of his fans kept it from ruining his week.
The leaks they had come, but it hadn’t mattered.
The people were happy, and their hopes were untattered.

The trailers now could confirm restored hopes and new hype,
Hype that would keep ringing and dinging each night.
You spent waaaaaaaaay too much time writing this.
 

larlargaming

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
pls no
 

Chrollo.

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I'm on Team Cat In The Hat now. The Cat would never lie to us, he just wants to have fun.
 

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What would Mach Rider's moveset even be like? Driving around the stage at full speed on her motorcyle and knocking everyone off the stage? That's just an idea i had in my mind.
Unlike Excitebiker, Mach Rider has been shown with weapons. That's probably why Excitebiker wasn't chosen.
 

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HOW THE GRINCH STOLE SMASMASS

Every fan down in Smashville liked hype a lot…
But the Grinch, who lived somewhere in France, DID NOT!
The Grinch hated hype-ing! The whole pre-release season!
Now please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.

It could be he was sick of all the fake leaks.
It could be, perhaps, he could not wait 6 weeks.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
Was he knew Verg’s roster was two sizes too small.

Whatever the reason, the size or the wait,
He stood there on Wednesday, ready for hate.
Staring down at the banner with a sour, Grinchy frown,
At unreleased characters – ****’s about to go down.

For he knew every fan down in Smashville online,
Were caught in a drought, just passing the time.
“And they’re talking about Skull Kid!” He snarled with a sneer,
“Next month is Ultimate! It’s practically here!”

Then he growled, with his Grinch fingers nervously humming,
“I must tell them somehow, they won’t see it coming!”
For each day he knew all the smash boys and smash girls,
Would cling to new leaks, it might make him hurl.

And then! Oh, the posts! Oh, the posts!
Posts! Posts! Posts!
That’s one thing he hated! The posts!
POSTS! POSTS! POSTS!

Then the fans young and old would talk and they’d guess.
And they’d guess! And they’d guess! And they’d GUESS!
GUESS! GUESS! GUESS!

They would guess there’d be Waddle Dee, and Minecraft’s own Steve.
Which was something the Grinch couldn’t stand to conceive.
And then they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every fan down in Smashville, the tall and the small,

Would all come together, like fish on a string.
Having taken the bait, oh to the threads they would cling!
His phone would ding! It would ding! Would Ding!
DING! DING! DING!

And the more the Grinch listened to his phone go ring ding,
The more the Grinch thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why, for 231 days I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fake leaks from coming! But how?”

Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRINCH GOT A WONDERFULLY AWFUL IDEA!
“I know just what to do!” The Grinch laughed in his throat.
And he broke out his laptop and started to gloat.

And he chuckled, and clucked, “What a great Grinchy trick!”
“With this promo poster I have, they’ll know it’s legit!”
“All I need is a platform…” The grinch searched around.
But since the fanbase is large, no new ones were found.

Did that stop the old Grinch? No! The Grinch simply yelled,
“If they can post on 4 chan, I’ll make one myself!”
So he took out a pan and took up a pad,
He wrote, and he wrote, the fans won’t be had!

Then he added some cuses and some deconfirms too,
“There’s no new playable Pokemon, oh no, boo hoo.”
Then the Grinch yelled “It’s done!” and so he clicked,
It was posted online, but soon he was ticked.

The board remained dark. Quiet posts filled the air.
All the fans disregarded his post without care.
He read the replies, of which their were few,
“This leak is fake! This guy has no clue!”

He stared at the screen, clenching his fist.
Translating from French to English was hardly a cinch.
He needed hard evidence, that much was clear.
But a photo? Too easily faked was his fear.

He thought and he thunk, about what he should do.
A video might cost him his job, that much was true.
“These characters,” he grinned, “the public must know!”
He knew it was time to put on a show.

He looked round the room, to make sure none could hear,
And he took out his phone, with much newfound cheer.
“And now!” grinned the Grinch “I’ll put them in a slum!”
He took out his phone, then took out his thumb.

He was swiping through apps, to decide what to use,
When he heard a loud sound, like the honk of a goose.
He turned around fast, and he saw the night-watchman,
It was Jack, oh how he hated this Scotsman.

The Grinch had been caught by this large man of honor,
Who’d seen the light left on, but the Grinch was no goner.
He stared at the Grinch and barked, “Oh Eric, why,”
“Why are you taking pics of this banner? WHY?”

But you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a lie and he thought it up quick!
“Why my sweet old friend Jack,” the Grinchy Eric lied,
“There was a rip in this banner messing it up on one side!”

“So I was asked to stay late and fix it, my dear.”
“I’m texting the boss about the new one right here.”
And his fib fooled the watchman. Then the Grinch shook his head,
“You’re keeping me from my work,” he said.

And when Jack the Scotsman went away in a huff,
The Grinch took out his phone and loaded it up!
He lined up the evidence onto a desk,
Opened up snapchat, and thought of something grotesque.

He started recording the leak right there with his phone,
Writing “**** you Nintendo lolllll” now all would be known!
He sent it along waiting for a response,
Someone screen-grabbed his snap with no nonchalance.

It was a quarter past midnight, some fans still in beds,
With dreams of Shantae and Elma in heads.
The Grinch he just sat, he sat, and he waited.
Happy with the silence he will have created.

Safe and anonymous, thanks to snapchat,
He’d surely put an end to speculation chitchat.
“PoohPooh to the fans!” he was Grinchishly humming.
“They’re finding out now no more surprises are coming!”

“They’re just waking up! I know what they’ll do!”
“Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the fans down in Smashville will all cry boohoo!”
“That’s a noise,” Grinned the Grinch, “That I simply MUST hear!”
So he paused. And the Grinch refreshed pages with cheer.

And he did read some words, flooding into the site.
It started out light, then his eyes widened in fright.
The words aren’t sad! Why, they sounded merry!
It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!

He stared down at Smashville and the Grinch popped his eyes!
To his core he was shook, he read a shocking surprise!
Every fan down in Smashville, both casual and hardcore,
Were cheering and cheering! With no surprises in store!

He hadn’t stopped leaks from coming, they came!
What’s worse, he found out, they'd discovered his name!
And the Grinch, with his grinch-ears ringing with dinging,
Stood puzzling, and puzzling, “To what are they clinging?”

“It came without Directs! Without trailer posts!
It came without Sakurai, Reggie, or treehouse live hosts!”
And he puzzled and puzzled, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before!

“Maybe hyping” he thought, “Doesn’t come from fake leaks.”
“Maybe hyping… perhaps… isn’t something so meek!”
And what happened then? Well in Smashville they say,
Smash Ultimate’s roster grew three sizes that day.

And the minute that Sakurai got word of the leak,
The cheers of his fans kept it from ruining his week.
The leaks they had come, but it hadn’t mattered.
The people were happy, and their hopes were untattered.

The trailers now could confirm restored hopes and new hype,
Hype that would keep ringing and dinging each night.
K chill dude
 

Starbound

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Release dates for Final Fantasy VII, IX, XII, X + X-2 HD Remaster, Fire Emblem: Three Houses and timeframes for Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3 and possibly even a tease at Pokemon Gen 8 would be all good ideas to start off with.
Yeah but would it really matter if we waited until January to get info on these?

Ninty usually focuses only on games about to come out soon with directs (like just the current quarter, with a few exceptions like all the FF games).

Plus Pokemon games are always revealed in their own thing.
 
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