Official Smash for Switch 2 - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Just hope you don't read too hard into whether or not Bowser and "Castle Bowser" are onscreen at the same time, lol.

When Bowser is taking part in the match, Castle Bowser is replaced with Castle Alphonso.

"Leave it to me!"

 

[Jave]

Alear would be a pretty bog standard character addition IMO. The Engage system would make them stand out mechanically, but otherwise they'd be just another lord. I think how they'd actually use the Engage system would be fun, but the "summon all the characters fans actually want" idea doesn't really make sense here, is often made in bad faith, and also Kiran is right there.

One thing I can give Engage credit for is that it has a cast of characters that's pretty well-liked all across the board, and since the Engage system is the same for all the playable cast, it feels like the perfect game for Sakurai to finally throw us a curveball and add a character that isn't the main Lord.

I would probably flip out if they added Ivy or Timerra (although realistically I could see them being ATs).

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

One thing I can give Engage credit for is that it has a cast of characters that's pretty well-liked all across the board, and since the Engage system is the same for all the playable cast, it feels like the perfect game for Sakurai to finally throw us a curveball and add a character that isn't the main Lord.

I would probably flip out if they added Ivy or Timerra (although realistically I could see them being ATs).

Adding someone who isn't Alear would have the benefit of being able to use an Emblem that isn't either arbitrary, or just Marth, as they'd have someone else associated with them. Just uh...don't pick the character associated with Emblem Lyn. That would not go well.

For the most part though, I'm pretty impartial. Alear is probably the best choice, but I mostly don't care.

 

[Watuna4343]

I just want to add something about Alear and their 'summoning' debate and that is that, folks who only put Alear in the game as a way to shove most other FE characters with them (whether vets or potential newcomers), don't realize that this would take so much effort to put together, that they'd be quicker to just bring back most of the FE cast rather than cutting them and putting god-knows-how-many-characters in one moveset. I mean, Pokemon Trainer is already hard to make as a 3-in-1 but a situation where Alear just casually summons whoever? Again, bringing back a bigger part of the FE cast would require less work. Like, it's just not worth the effort just to reduce the FE slots and cast for this one moveset, if it's like this.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I just want to add something about Alear and their 'summoning' debate and that is that, folks who only put Alear in the game as a way to shove most other FE characters with them (whether vets or potential newcomers), don't realize that this would take so much effort to put together, that they'd be quicker to just bring back most of the FE cast rather than cutting them and putting god-knows-how-many-characters in one moveset. I mean, Pokemon Trainer is already hard to make as a 3-in-1 but a situation where Alear just casually summons whoever? Again, bringing back a bigger part of the FE cast would require less work. Like, it's just not worth the effort just to reduce the FE slots and cast for this one moveset, if it's like this.

Seriously. You're not just taking up a slot for Alear. You're using up the dev resources of however many "summoned" FE characters they'd have.

FE is already taking up more than it's fair share of the Smash roster. The last thing we need is one FE character that's going to cost us several more characters.

 

[BritishGuy54]

Speaking of Kirby Air Riders, when do you think the game will be released?
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My bets are on October for Air Riders.

That gives room for another Direct in July or something.

Metroid Prime 4 will come in August.

September will likely be left vacant for a Mario game. Likely a collection, such as a New Soup All-Stars or even a 3D All-Stars NS2 Edition.

Pokémon always comes in November. Z-A will be no different.

We know now that Age of Imprisonment is actually coming in 2025, so December now makes sense for it.

While on the topic of stages, what kinds of stages do you think we could see based on the current Switch 2 lineup?

• Mario Kart World - World Rally
  • A travelling stage taking you through different stages, such as Mario Bros. Circuit, Crown City, Peach Stadium, and Rainbow Road.

 

[DemifiendEnjoyer]

Smash Amiibo on sale at GameStop.

 

[fogbadge]

Watch this vid!

Also speaking of the vivian situation no matter how you slice it the english script for the remake wasnt the original intention either as:
Og Japanese (vague cause of the time probably)
made direct or not mentioned depending on language version (german for example did the same thing as the english version)
In the new japanese new dialouge was written to make vivian more explicity trans (eventho she did always call herself a girl so yeah that means she was always trans or something similar atleast)

But then the english version heavily rewrote The already slightly rewritten japanese script even further to remove words like Crazy (used as a descriptor) or cleaning in reffrence to a mother

Most things falling into any genderroles were removed in the english versions of ttyd and engage for example which i mean is stupid right there nothing wrong with dialouge mentioning a girl wants to Look pretty f.E
Noa does an intentionally awful job translating nintendo games!

ok 1, I don't need a video showing the dialogue changes in TTYD I've played that game an insane number of times and 2 that still has got nothing to do with me calling Alear a blank slate character

While on the topic of stages, what kinds of stages do you think we could see based on the current Switch 2 lineup?

I suppose a DK Banaza stage with the most destructible terrain ever
perhaps a MKW stage taking place over several tracks
maybe a Drag x Drive arena
knowing sak we may get an Air Riders stage

most of the other stages I can think of would be based on switch 1 games

 

[SubspaceJigglypuff]

To tie back to Smash, to all the F-Zero fans on the boards, who would you want from the series in Smash?

Slightly late but after watching an F-Zero GX walkthrough the other day, my Pipe Dream is a Phantom Road stage, that's so fast and brutal it makes people cry.

Realistically though, we'll prolly just get returning stages I feel. One of Big Blue/Port Town, and... well it SHOULD be Melee Mute City 'cause it deserves to be immortalized in HD, but sadly F-Zero 99 gives them a good excuse to just port the "retro" Mute City again.

Maybe in Smash 7.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Just uh...don't pick the character associated with Emblem Lyn. That would not go well.

That happens to be Ivy, one of the most popular characters in Engage and one that could be really unique due to the wyvern riding + magic combo.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

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[Pupp135]

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Just submitted my responses

 

[Thegameandwatch]

Speaking of Kirby Air Riders, when do you think the game will be released?

Presumably in the fall/autumn before the release of Legends Z-A. Maybe October?

Unrelated but when do you think mainline Mario will happen since Wonder is recent while 3D Mario developers are reportedly working on the new DK game.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I put a response in.

 

[BritishGuy54]

Presumably in the fall/autumn before the release of Legends Z-A. Maybe October?

Unrelated but when do you think mainline Mario will happen since Wonder is recent while 3D Mario developers are reportedly working on the new DK game.

I’m going to say Spring-Summer 2026 for 3D Mario.

Don’t forget, Pokémon Gen 10 is likely scheduled for November 2026. I think Nintendo will want to give its heavy hitters breathing room.

At this point, though, I may as well give out my predictions for Nintendo’s next few years of releases.

Spoiler: Nintendo Releases Predictions

This list won’t be accurate, and is more so just an analysis of existing trends, since Nintendo loves a few curveballs.

 

[Perkilator]

I've been thinking about how Sakurai is making Kirby Air Riders with Bandai Namco, and it got me wondering; how would you guys feel if, in a full circle kind of way, the next Smash game was developed by HAL Laboratory (with Sakurai's supervision)? I mean, HAL already kinda has their foot in the platform fighter door with the Kirby Fighters series and the inclusion of Kirby's Smash moveset as a copy ability in Amazing Mirror and Planet Robobot. What do you guys think?

 

[DarthEnderX]

I've been thinking about how Sakurai is making Kirby Air Riders with Bandai Namco, and it got me wondering; how would you guys feel if, in a full circle kind of way, the next Smash game was developed by HAL Laboratory (with Sakurai's supervision)?

I'm indifferent to what studio is making Smash. I only care about the state of the finished product.

If HAL can pull it off, then great. If not, not great.

 

[CosmicEternity44]

I've been thinking about how Sakurai is making Kirby Air Riders with Bandai Namco, and it got me wondering; how would you guys feel if, in a full circle kind of way, the next Smash game was developed by HAL Laboratory (with Sakurai's supervision)? I mean, HAL already kinda has their foot in the platform fighter door with the Kirby Fighters series and the inclusion of Kirby's Smash moveset as a copy ability in Amazing Mirror and Planet Robobot. What do you guys think?

I’d like that. I have always wanted to see HAL Laboratory do another Smash Bros. game.

 

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t.co

well gave it a go. which as a nintendo fan was basically blind praise

 

[Thegameandwatch]

if, in a full circle kind of way, the next Smash game was developed by HAL Laboratory (with Sakurai's supervision)? I mean, HAL already kinda has their foot in the platform fighter door with the Kirby Fighters series and the inclusion of Kirby's Smash moveset as a copy ability in Amazing Mirror and Planet Robobot. What do you guys think?

The fact that they worked on the first 3 games (Brawl to a lesser extent) means they have great experience working on the games.

 

[AreJay25]

So hey uhhh Virtua Fighter 5 REVO just got announced for the Switch 2. Literally the first mainline game to ever show up on a Nintendo system. VF6 will most likely be following it as well.

Akira'a stocks are slowly but surely rising, if ya ask me. He's already got a foot in the door.

 

[Dukefire]

So hey uhhh Virtua Fighter 5 REVO just got announced for the Switch 2. Literally the first mainline game to ever show up on a Nintendo system. VF6 will most likely be following it as well.

Akira'a stocks are slowly but surely rising, if ya ask me. He's already got a foot in the door.

He DID appear as an Assist Trophy. Though, it was his original polygon shape form since SEGA Saturn/Arcade.

 

[YeppersPeppers]

So hey uhhh Virtua Fighter 5 REVO just got announced for the Switch 2. Literally the first mainline game to ever show up on a Nintendo system. VF6 will most likely be following it as well.

Akira'a stocks are slowly but surely rising, if ya ask me. He's already got a foot in the door.

Technically not the first time, as the Genesis version of VF2 has been rereleased on Nintendo consoles a few times (Virtual Console, NSO), as well probably included in one of the many Genesis collection games, but...yeah, this is the first time an actual proper VF title has been on a Nintendo console.

 

[HyperSomari64]

So hey uhhh Virtua Fighter 5 REVO just got announced for the Switch 2. Literally the first mainline game to ever show up on a Nintendo system. VF6 will most likely be following it as well.

Akira'a stocks are slowly but surely rising, if ya ask me. He's already got a foot in the door.

Spoiler: Spam

dezeray112
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check this out

Edit: Wrong quote

 

[Guynamednelson]

Technically the Genesis version of VF2 has been rereleased on Nintendo consoles a few times (Virtual Console, NSO), as well probably included in one of the many Genesis collection games, but...yeah, this is the first time an actual proper VF title has been on a Nintendo console.

And I really don't understand why Sega releases that port as much as they have, because

1. Since it was made for the original Genesis and not the 32X, it barely shows what VF is about since it had to be remade as a 2D fighter
2. It barely even deserves to be called VF2, in that both of its newcomers are missing, and the VF1 cast is missing most of the moves they got in 2.

 

[Dukefire]

Another one. Where do you think Bomberman's chances are currently?

Spoiler: No, not that bomberman

Spoiler: White Bomber, The Bomberman

 

[Thegameandwatch]

Another one. Where do you think Bomberman's chances are currently?

Spoiler: No, not that bomberman

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Spoiler: White Bomber, The Bomberman

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Probably the most likely new Konami rep in my opinion.

 

[HyperSomari64]

Another one. Where do you think Bomberman's chances are currently?

Spoiler: No, not that bomberman

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Spoiler: White Bomber, The Bomberman

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You'll get the Bomberman girl from that one Gooner arcade (Not gonna post an image of her, for the sake of not ruining your childhoods by accident)
The original Bomberman would still be an Assist Trophy btw.

 

[DarthEnderX]

So hey uhhh Virtua Fighter 5 REVO just got announced for the Switch 2. Literally the first mainline game to ever show up on a Nintendo system.

I mean...it's a port of a remaster of a 20yo game. Not really that big a deal.

VF6 will most likely be following it as well.

That would be a much bigger deal.

Probably the most likely new Konami rep in my opinion.

Sadly. I really want Rizer. But Bomberman IS probably more likely.

 

[dezeray112]

So hey uhhh Virtua Fighter 5 REVO just got announced for the Switch 2. Literally the first mainline game to ever show up on a Nintendo system. VF6 will most likely be following it as well.

Akira'a stocks are slowly but surely rising, if ya ask me. He's already got a foot in the door.

Well at least in addition to Street Fighter 6, Virtua Fighter 5 REVO is also coming to the Switch 2.

At this stage I wouldn't be too surprised if Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves and Tekken 8 will also get Switch 2 ports eventually.

 

[Opossum]

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t.co

Genuinely baffling how there's an option for "I buy mostly digital games but some physical" but explicitly not the reverse. Incredibly glaring oversight.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Another one. Where do you think Bomberman's chances are currently?

I think he's one of those choices many would consider so obvious that he kinda loops back around into being one of the lesser requested third parties. He does have legacy and popularity in the community, but I think Alucard as of now is Konami's standout choice with him showing up in crossovers, getting a show, and initially being considered for base game. Although obviously a Contra, Metal Gear, or maybe even like Silent Hill rep could break the mold in a way most don't expect.

 

[DemifiendEnjoyer]

I think he's one of those choices many would consider so obvious that he kinda loops back around into being one of the lesser requested third parties. He does have legacy and popularity in the community, but I think Alucard as of now is Konami's standout choice with him showing up in crossovers, getting a show, and initially being considered for base game. Although obviously a Contra, Metal Gear, or maybe even like Silent Hill rep could break the mold in a way most don't expect.

I'd say Bomberman definitely has better chances than Alucard.

Edit:
The prophecy foretold his arrival.

 

[Thegameandwatch]

I'd say Bomberman definitely has better chances than Alucard.

Also I think for the most part, 3rd party companies will probably focus on introducing new series although there are obviously exceptions and also echo fighters.

Sephiroth is the only 3rd party character from a pre-existing series that already has a character in Smash outside of echo fighters.

 

[DemifiendEnjoyer]

Also I think for the most part, 3rd party companies will probably focus on introducing new series although there are obviously exceptions and also echo fighters.

Sephiroth is the only 3rd party character from a pre-existing series that already has a character in Smash outside of echo fighters.

I think Shadow is the only one I can really envision happening. But maybe they could do more characters for Final Fantasy and SMT/Persona since they have different casts each game.
Street Fighter is a maybe.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Genuinely baffling how there's an option for "I buy mostly digital games but some physical" but explicitly not the reverse. Incredibly glaring oversight.

I buy mostly digital games but rent physical.

 

[Stratos]

Of the Konami characters on my list that I want as newcomers to the Super Smash Bros. series, there are only three and they are Bomberman, Pyramid Head from the Silent Hill series and Black Panther from the Konami arcade game of the same name, which as some of you may remember is not at all related to Marvel's Black Panther.

 

[CosmicEternity44]

Of the Konami characters on my list that I want as newcomers to the Super Smash Bros. series, there are only three and they are Bomberman, Pyramid Head from the Silent Hill series and Black Panther from the Konami arcade game of the same name, which as some of you may remember is not at all related to Marvel's Black Panther.

Have Amaterasu from Capcom’s Okami appear with Black Panther and the next Smash will be fun! I would like to see those two quadrupeds fight!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I think Shadow is the only one I can really envision happening. But maybe they could do more characters for Final Fantasy and SMT/Persona since they have different casts each game.
Street Fighter is a maybe.

With Final Fantasy, it's licensed as FFVII mainly. So it's much harder to do more with the cast since they're... getting it cheaper with that combo. That said, things could change. They could also use a generic class/character which shows up in VII and its spin-offs too if they wanted to represent something from a different game "technically"(like how Black Mages don't often change their core appearance much).

Anyway, as for companies, they aren't the ones even choosing the characters. Nintendo and Sakurai have plenty of Konami choices, but it's also what he envisions best as playable. It's not a matter of what Konami is pushing, it's a matter of what Nintendo/Sakurai want. It can easily coincide. Castlevania is pretty relevant right now, and Bomberman is also plenty iconic. I'd say the biggest hurdle for Bomberman is how Sakurai can envision his moveset to work in an interesting, fun, and flowing manner. Bombs aren't identical to Punches Only either, so it's a bit more complicated. I can understand why AT was the best option for Ultimate(also, due to limited development time and characters), but we don't have that issue anymore. That also said, Alucard is much easier to envision design-wise, and is highly popular too. So either could work. I do feel Alucard has a slight edge, though.

 

[DemifiendEnjoyer]

We need Gex in the game.