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Zelda most likely, yoshi is a slight possibility, but side b isnt that good for getting past campers.
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Thank you for that nicely put together rebuttal.Marth is much much much faster and more mobile than Bowser, able to close distances much easier than Bowser. He seems honestly to have much more luck than Bowser against campers. Peach has the same mobility advantage, and her ducking allows her to avoid some projectiles, while her floating, turnips, and all around mobility allow her to spam back if need be. Bowser, however, is NOT able to counter spam anyone at all unless either their projectile sucks or they're REALLY REALLY REALLY bad at camping. I know very well that a good Bowser can get around camping, but due to Bowser's immense size (even when crawling, wtf?), very low mobility, immense size, relatively slow-to-come-out projectile for its distance, Bowser as a character is extremely easy to camp when compared to others. Also, Bowser eats fast characters with low range for snacktime. Even when infinite jumping, Bowser's still a gigantic target and is somewhat vulnerable during the rise or something if I remember correctly.
Don't get me wrong, I love using Bowser, but while he might fit this somewhat well, he doesn't fit it AS well as Link or Samus.
True, but some character suffer far more from bad spacing than others.Also I dont like the first sentence: ''This character has a difficult learning curve as spacing is essential''
To me, good spacing has nothing to do with the character... you need to have it no matter what
omg its liek totally nessThis character has a difficult learning curve as spacing is essential. This character can stop most campy characters from camping, spams all over slow characters, but is still too slow to do anything to a fast character. There is no doubt this underplayed character can become amazing in the future, but a few glaring weaknesses will probably prevent this character from ever reaching some of the higher tiers.
No you don't. We want Samus top tier. D:This really seems like Samus.
I really hope this is Samus.
But this is fuuuuuuuuuun~.This is the second and last time I'm going to say this. LETS TALK ABOUT GANNONDORF INSTEAD OF WHO WE THINK WILL BE THE NEXT CHARACTER. We're not doing a spec of good this way.
The problem is, with Zelda, she's already set for high tier , olimar is the same. Both have too many advantageous match-ups for them to be prevented from reaching high tiers, weaknesses and al.Holy crap lol at update 8. Love it. Had no idea they would do him so soon.
I say Zelda.
Spacing is everything, especially landing F-airs.
Naryu's love stops campers
Din's Fire spam, uh yeah.
Also she does really badly against people who can quickly pressure her.
I'd also guess Olimar, who is played less than Zelda, but who knows. The hints have gotten harder lol.
Well now, looks like we can consider Ness...omg its liek totally ness
not sure too about spacing, since that applied to everyone...
he can float around and absorb projectiles, very difficult to camp him for anyone not names Link/TL
pkT and pk fire are just so amazingly spammable against slow guys, especially thunder. but ness just cant escape fast people long enough to get things like pk fire, pk thunder to hit.
hes definitely underplayed, but his gimpable recovery and lame CG by marth wont let him get high tier.
Not Lucario.O_o Ganondorf
wait, he was serious.....what?
lucario or zelda...... zelda pwns campers...
ZELDA
Nobody said that he's actually good relative to any other characters. However, he does have useful techniques, and can kill quickly given the chance. I don't see the backroom suggesting him as a top tier character, but it was his turn to be discussed, and he DOES have pros.... just a lot more cons.I'm surprised that the backroom thinks Ganondorf is actually good. I play him a lot, and I think he's the worst character in the game and haven't changed my mind on that since the game came out. He has no answers to camping. Camp him and play defensive. He can't approach.
He's also got a lot more potential them people give him. However, he lacks a gigantic glaring weakness other then speed (which isn't very big of a weakness).
...She HAS them. They just aren't guaranteed to work until 130%. <.<Samus's glaring weakness would obviously be her lack of a kill move.
Woop, my bad, I guess I didn't bother to read the whole first post. O_o. Continue.This thread is for the discussion of who the next update will be, not for discussing the current character. That's why there are links to the threads where you can discuss each Character currently covered by the SBR.
IDK who the #9 character could be, it's a little too vague for me to give an educated guess. I suppose it could be DDD but the hint doesn't really encompass him very much.
''spacing is essential'' is not objective at all... no matter what char you play you will always get ***** if you cant space properlyThere are two parts of this extremely vague hint that help to narrow down the possibilities significantly.
First: Spacing is essential.
Second: Too slow to do anything to a fast character.
These two hints are critical because they are the most objective. Its obvious exactly what characters rely a great deal on spacing, and its obvious what characters are rather slow in both attack speed and running speed as well. The list I have come up with only takes these two factors into consideration.
Bowser
Ike
DDD
Link
Pokemon Trainer (Charizard)
In my opinion, I feel that only these 5 characters fit the two most objective criteria we have been given in this hint. Next we go and look at who on this list isnt underplayed. I think that Ike can be kicked off this list with no questions asked, and DDD with very few qualms as well. Charizard might be able to be removed, since Pokemon Trainer is a relatively well used character, if only because he contains 3 different play styles in one, but I still feel that of Pokemon Trainer's arsenal, Charizard is the least used, and I think that in terms of character analysis, that each Pokemon will be counted as something of a seperate chracter, though less so than Zelda/Sheik.
So now the list has:
Bowser
Link
Pokemon Trainer (Charizard)
Now what chracters left on this list can really spam much of anything...and the answer comes down to Link, who is the only one on this list with with a projectile that can really be spammed.
So yeah, I think Link.
Well thats why you mix up the missiles a bit. The slower speed of the seeker missiles makes them easier to avoid, but they disrupt the gameflow more making it harder for characters that rely on the momentum of a fight a lot.Ok I see your points.
However, I dont really agree with what you said about Samus not having too many problems with fast chars.
MK can simply run under neutral-B's and over B's like they're not there its not even funny.
I did. And Wario doesn't fit the hints seeing as none of his B-moves are really spammable with any amount of success. The bike is too important for his recovery and the others speak for themselves.Jk. Lol, I'm also surprised absolutely no one guessed him. I think even the people giving the hints would agree Wario also fit the hints very well.