FlashGearz
Smash Apprentice
Sounds like Peach at first, but Samus sounds like she'd work. Falco could work if was wasn't amzing. Yoshi seems right too
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Funny how you think it's Lucario, but say Samus's range game sucks, when in reality that they practically have the Same Style of Projectile! Also Samus had Missiles that are pretty good at racking up damage to add to her Long Range Game.I think it's Lucario, honestly. This one is EXTREMELY ambiguous.
It's definitely NOT Samus. Her long range-game, which seems good at first, is actually REALLY horrible.
Try using him via Random. He sucks to everyone who hasn't looked at the tourney standings yet or hasn't mained him. At first, he's weak, sucky, has no knockback, can't kill until around 160%, and his BAS can't break through anything.But lucario isn't underrated nor is his aerial or close game thought to suck.
Everyone knows he can combo quite easily.
Try using him via Random. He sucks to everyone who hasn't looked at the tourney standings yet or hasn't mained him. At first, he's weak, sucky, has no knockback, can't kill until around 160%, and his BAS can't break through anything.
Everyone underestimates Lucario at the start. It's natural.
Also, how many people have been complaining about him? Compare him to Falco, who is doing MUCH worse than him.
Look at the rankings list.
A Rank <Overused>
4 Marth (13 top8, 9 top4, 2 top2, 6 wins) - 316.29375 - 5
5 Mr. Game & Watch (9 top8, 7 top4, 6 top2, 5 wins) - 284.037535 - 8
6 Lucario (8 top8, 4 top4, 3 top2, 5 wins) - 228.66875 - 10
7 ROB (13 top8, 10 top4, 2 top2, 4 wins) - 221.14375 - 4
8 Wario (12 top8, 8 top4, 1 top2, 4 wins) - 211.14375 - 9
9 Falco (10 top8, 5 top4, 3 top2, 2 wins) - 196.46875 - 7
10 Olimar (8 top8, 8 top4, 3 top2, 3 wins) - 185.30625 - 6
Why the hell is everyone complaining about Falco, Wario, ROB, and Olimar, when nobody's complaining about Lucario, even though he's completely trumping them tournament-wise, aside from the obvious lack of users? I have never seen ANYONE complain about Lucario, despite his obvious amazing strengths and lack of true counters (GnW's more like 6-4, but bleh, it's still not a true counter).
He's not seen as HORRIBLE, per say, but he's DEFINITELY underestimated. His short-range game is considered weak at first, especially if you're looking only at his aerials, and Aura Sphere is by far one of the best projectiles in the game. Look at any list of "the best ______" around the boards. You'll never see Lucario on any of them. Look at the topic a few lines below this one. The only people saying "Lucario" are the mains themselves. Hell, many people still think MARTH'S Dair is better than Lucario's.
Same style of projectile? BS. Lucario's Aura Sphere is bigger, kills better, is more spammable, much easier to hit with, (you can't duck under a wavy projectile), comes out faster, can be charged mid-air, can be charged while moving, the charge hurts people, both the charged and baby Aura Sphere has INSANE priority at higher %, and its speed perfectly catches spotdodgers and rolldodgers. It also can be used as a combo finisher for a KO. (Fair > Aura Sphere is inescapable at certain %s) These are only some of the reasons why it's better than Samus' Crap Shoot. Also, missiles won't do much if they can't HIT. Baby Aura Sphere carves through missiles after around 50%, and before that, ANY disjointed hitbox will slice through them. They're also slow, predictable, and can't be spammed at long range due to how they're so friggen SLOW and have VERY limited homing and fuel.Funny how you think it's Lucario, but say Samus's range game sucks, when in reality that they practically have the Same Style of Projectile! Also Samus had Missiles that are pretty good at racking up damage to add to her Long Range Game.
...Mebbie. But Lucario supposedly does well usually in locals, as well.I'm not completely sure on the subject, but does Azen have a lot to do with Lucario's placements?
No. Just no.Well...Leon Kennedy fits the bill pretty **** well. I go with him.
HAXNext will probably be Samus
Any way
*bows down to our only outside connection to the sacred backroon*
...What? Don't believe me?And WTF Lucario's projectile>Samus
That was a way of saying What the ****, Lucario's projectile is awesome. I agree with you. XDDDDDDDD...What? Don't believe me?
I completely agree except for the above statement. Yoshi's only reliable kill moves are Fsmash, USmash, and Uair. Fair works, but it's for spikes. DownB works, too, but at higher percentages. Uair issometimes a bit difficult to land due to a narrow hitbox. Yoshi's good aerial movement can help remedy that, though.But Yoshi doesn't exactly struggle with KO moves at all, I think this part fits Samus more. Samus's aerial game truly is very good at comboing too.
His long range game isn't spectacular, is it?Is it Luigi? He has sorta short range he is sometimes underrated. He is a aerial demon? So why not? I didn't even read the whole description too tired >.>
Yeah, Lucario's projectile > Samus...... so the tier list is something like:And WTF Lucario's projectile>Samus
Lucas has no trouble KOing.i think it is lucas
he has an awesome projectile game and his aerials are pretty sweet too
but he doesn't ave issues KOing. Fast and powerful forward smash, b-throw, powerful u-smash and d-smash(despite the slowness and lagginess of the last two). Also, has two spikes and a great edgeguard in PK Thunder.i think it is lucas
he has an awesome projectile game and his aerials are pretty sweet too
I do have some trouble KOing too. Idk if edguarding counts though as 'KOing'. But also his DR helps him KO even more, since you can use it to slide backwards a little to dodge an attack then slide back in towards the opponent while doing an attack, and also if you time it right you can use the few super armor frames to block an attack and go in for an attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok17
But Yoshi doesn't exactly struggle with KO moves at all, I think this part fits Samus more. Samus's aerial game truly is very good at comboing too.
I completely agree except for the above statement. Yoshi's only reliable kill moves are Fsmash, USmash, and Uair. Fair works, but it's for spikes. DownB works, too, but at higher percentages. Uair issometimes a bit difficult to land due to a narrow hitbox. Yoshi's good aerial movement can help remedy that, though.
Maybe I'm just not that great, but many times I find myself looking at my opponent's 150%+.
how you liking it nowMy 5 year old niece can switch from zelda to shiek... this is not a joke. The technique should require skill to use. Heck, the notion of skill requirement wasn't even part of the original hint, SP added it so you can believe that it's important that the character fits the aspect.
Ppl think that Bowser fits the bill because they dont seem to understand the difference between having KO power and being able to KO easily. In SP's post it talks about KOing without much problem, it doesn't say anything about KO Power.
It is much more easier to KO with Meta Knight than Bowser even though Bowser has much more KO power than Meta Knight.
Also SP says in his hint ''This character may be doomed to mid tier because despite all the incredible strengths and abilities that this character possesses...''
Think about it, Bowser doesn't have any incredible strength or ability... he's fat, he's slow, has lag on many moves and he doesnt have great hitboxes. Only thing he has is KO power but there's many that have more KO power than him.
Also Bowser fits more into low tier status... he doesnt have good results so far, and he has alot of bad matchups. Yes he does have an unusual technique that would be hard to use, but he doesnt even fit into the first parts of the hint.