Smash Back Room Weekly Character Discussions! FINAL UPDATES: Ness + Lucas. All done!!

[St. Viers]

see the BR has mind games. So lets not say "obviously it's x" next time

 

[Jewdo]

Prediction - Olimar.

Just read this every week until I'm right. I'd rather do it this way than spam the same guess every week.

 

[ShadowLink84]

His recovery doesn't look fine at all.
I CALL SHENANIGANS!

I think the hints provided by the BR are poor.

 

[JCaesar]

No bad hint johns.

Face it ShadowLink, I won

 

[ShadowLink84]

By haxing.
Dude who says the character has a fine recovery but smart gimping will kill him?
You don't even need smart gimping for Ganondorf.
Bad hint johns allowed ****it!
Screw it...

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DU- BRAWL!

In a week or so since I have no wifi by being in PA.

 

[JCaesar]

You're in PA? I'm in northern MD, come to Crit Hit 3 in July, we'll MM for the right to have bad hint johns.

 

[ShadowLink84]

I'll see if I can make it, ^_^

 

[Finch]

lol @ 90% of the guessers being wrong. I thought ganon right after I read the hint but I was one of like 2 people who guessed him.

 

[Vaul]

Next week's character will be a fun one to talk about. Underestimated by many, this character has a devastating aerial game that will surprise you when it takes you out at a low percent. But on the ground this character doesn't have very many options against long range or projectile spamming characters other than one of their B attacks. And this character's recovery can be fine sometimes, but against smart opponents this character can be gimped quite easily

This is the most useless thread ever.

 

[ICANTCOUNT123456]

We were all wrong... lol.

And yeah, Ganon isn't as bad as most people think. he has the best spike in the game.

 

[ShadowLink84]

Oh wow he has ONE good aerial that can be used beyond short hop level and be effective.
Overall his aerial game is poor.
Yeah he has powerful aerials, but the problem is that their usage becomes limited beyond shorthop level 9other than the Dair)


As for his recovery? Its worse than Falcon's end story. Not fine at all.

 

[Mr.Victory07]

Actually the hint was pretty spot on. Except for the recovery part

 

[FzeroX]

I believe that #9 will be pit.

This character has a difficult learning curve as spacing is essential.

With Pit spacing is very important. Pit's Learning curve is very steep, due to the many "Advanced techniques" that he has as well as utilizing all of them as well as mastering them in battle regularly.

This character can stop most campy characters from camping

Pit can easily camp back with arrow, as well as having two reflectors to stop projectiles. And can use his multiple jumps, glide and WoI to weave through projectiles and bring the battle face to face.

spams all over slow characters

Arrows, what more can I say?

but is still too slow to do anything to a fast character

Fast Characters can get inside of pits arrows, leaving him with close combat, which isn't exactly the best.

a few glaring weaknesses

Up b gimp, very detrimental to a Pit players, as well as few kill moves which dont kill reliably till over 100%.

 

[The_Dyne]

#9 sounds like Sonic to me.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

New hint is up. I can't decide if I said too much or if I said too little, but I guess we'll see what happens.

And as for the last hint, well, I was hoping people would catch onto the "fine" instead of "good" part, but I've noticed that when I throw syntax into a hint, it throws everyone off =/

EDIT: I changed a few words in the last sentence. Although I doubt many people have read the hint yet, so it doesn't really matter ^_^

 

[ShadowLink84]

Its cause most people associate fine with good.
**** it panda why are you so cruel!?

 

[ShadowLink84]

hmm I don't think it is Sonic. He is the fastest character in the game and can space like noones business.
I was thinking Zamus.

 

[DanGR]

olimar? he's not too fast and he prevents most campers from camping. better versus slow characters and has a deep learning curve. He's underplayed also. You've given away to much Panda.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Donkey Kong!...?

 

[Earthbound360]

Link maybe?

 

[BigRick]

wow it's ganon! guess I was wrong

the fine recovery threw me off

I'm french... so fine > good for us

lol im hint johning

 

[sagemoon]

The biggest part of this hint is Kyari. Checked his posts and most are from the link forum (is this considered cheating?). But yeah, if the hint was taken from a post Kyari made, then link is the most likely answer

 

[BigRick]

yea at first it sounded like dedede but the king is not underplayed at all

link is the first thing that comes to mind rite now

 

[St. Viers]

see, every word counts people... I said that awhile ago. BR's and their mindgames...it tr00

 

[JCaesar]

Link makes sense, especially considering the Kyari thing, but I dunno about "difficult learning curve"

Just for reference, is PT gonna be split up or count as one character? Cause I really wanna say Ivysaur, who definitely has a much steeper learning curve than Link.

 

[St. Viers]

zzs

10char

 

[SamuraiPanda]

The biggest part of this hint is Kyari. Checked his posts and most are from the link forum (is this considered cheating?). But yeah, if the hint was taken from a post Kyari made, then link is the most likely answer

Rofl. Kyari has been participating in the SBR discussions for awhile now, despite the character. And doesn't Kyari main G&W?

 

[ShadowLink84]

probably one character since the user must switch.

 

[Anth0ny]

Holy crap, I didn't even think of Ganondorf.

As for next week, I think it's Pit:

-He has quite a difficult learning curve (arrow use, learning to glide well)
-He can prevent camping with his shield, flying around the projectiles, using his forward b and spamming his arrows
-He spams all over slow characters with his arrows
-Faster characters could still get through the onslaught of arrows.
-His weaknesses would be that he doesn't have very many kill moves, and even still, said kill moves need quite high percents to even be kill moves.

EDIT: Augh, now that I read the new update, I don't really think that Pit is underplayed. Not sure who it could be now. *thinks*

 

[JCaesar]

edit: read that wrong

This hint is even more vague than last week, it could be almost a dozen characters.

 

[Grandeza]

I have no clue what this week is. What b-move does Ganondorf have to protect him from spammers?

 

[TehBo49]

^Probably forward b.

The next character sounds like Link or Zelda.

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

Yoshi would be my guess.

 

[adumbrodeus]

My money is on Link, has a bit of a learning curve due to projectile-based game (namely the superlative spacing it requires to be effective). His projectiles also make him very difficult to camp against.

But his low speed makes it difficult for him to compete with characters that are faster.

Slower characters however, he can easily spam all over.


Granted, a good amount of this can be applied to Toon Link, however there's no mention of the areal game (aka, back-air of doom), so I think it's more likely that we're dealing with Link himself. Also the never reaching higher tiers makes Link more likely, since Toon Link is generally considered a high tier character.

 

[Tenki]

Update #9: ????

This character has a difficult learning curve as spacing is essential. This character can stop most campy characters from camping, spams all over slow characters, but is still too slow to do anything to a fast character. There is no doubt this underplayed character can become amazing in the future, but a few glaring weaknesses will probably prevent this character from ever reaching some of the higher tiers.

Can you guess who next week's character is?
I need to thank Kyari for half of this hint, as I took something Kyari posted and made it ambiguous ^_^

Sonic!
[x] Difficult learning curve (so say most people)
[x] Spacing is essential to avoid priority issues
[x] Makes it pointless for a campy Pit to spam arrows, among others. Camping doesn't usually last long against a Sonic, so it forces them to rely on more defensive melee moves.
[x] (CAN) spam attacks (in combos) on slow characters
[x] "Too slow" ... people say his attacks start too slow. Smashes, special attacks (at least, charging moves), among others.
[x] Has problems against fast attacking characters due to their attacks coming out and outprioritizing his moves
[x] Underplayed, definitely xD

[x] Has the potential for a 5+ hit 40+ damage combo (would be amazing if it could be mastered xD), has a major punishment game to take advantage of, and an amazing recovery that, if he had better damage and priority, would make him broken...

must be Sonic xD

 

[Earthbound360]

I think it's Link. In fact, Im almost POSITIVE it's Link

This character has a difficult learning curve as spacing is essential. This character can stop most campy characters from camping, spams all over slow characters, but is still too slow to do anything to a fast character. There is no doubt this underplayed character can become amazing in the future, but a few glaring weaknesses will probably prevent this character from ever reaching some of the higher tiers.


Projectile game. Hard to master, NEEDS good spacing.
Projectile spam again, especially on slowpokes.
Link is slow and always has been
Link is underplayed. You dont see Link that often ever since Toony came in
Slowness, bad recovery, poor airgame, the kind of stuff that puts a characters tier placement down

 

[Dream Land Works]

I will go with Link.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Sonic!
[x] Difficult learning curve (so say most people)
[x] Makes it pointless for a campy Pit to spam arrows, among others.
[x] (CAN) spam attacks on slow characters
[x] Has problems against fast attacking characters due to their attacks coming out and outprioritizing his moves
[x] Underplayed

[x] Has the potential for a 5+ hit 40+ damage combo (would be amazing if it could be mastered xD), has a major punishment game to take advantage of, and an amazing recovery that, if he had better damage and priority, would make him broken..

must be Sonic xD

2 words in the hint kill that...

"Too slow".

"but is still too slow to do anything to a fast character".

If there is anything sonic is NOT it's "too slow".

 

[Tenki]

I edited it a bit since the first time I posted it

People rant on about how 'slow' Sonic's attacks are all the time. Granted, I don't feel it much, maybe out of being accustomed to it, but you rack up damage on someone and now you're stuck trying to hit them with B-air, F-smash, D-smash, Homing Attack - all moves that either have long startup or keep Sonic in a state for too long if you miss the move.

PS, if SBR is being vague and going all "SURPRISE! WRONG CHARACTER!" on people, "Too slow" is such a good throw-off. Not to mention it's Sonic's most effective weapo- err taunt.

 

[nukethemall73]

didnt specify running speed, couldve been attack speed, with which sonics best kill move is way "too slow" (his f-smash)