didnt he also say negative things about the balloon fighter as well
i'd also like to make it clear im not taking sides
He did; which is why I meant to cut
Balloon Fighter instead of Muddy Mole in the chart, and somehow I messed up with that.
They will be swapped out in the next update.
For TW101:
At the end of this
video from the official Platinum Games account (1:28) we see Nintendo/PlatinumGamesInc. I also have
this showing Nintendo holds the trademark.
and for the hell of it,
Sakurai gave Kamiya a copy of Kid Icarus Uprising
Thanks. I will add Wonderful 101 Guy back to the chart in the next update.
I thought I was participating in a civilised discussion about a game we're all looking forward to and helping to critique this speculative chart. But it appears you have some emotional growing up to do.
I get the feeling you're a bit of an unhappy emotionally tense kind of kid, so if continuing this discussion brings you too much stress or "irritates" you too much then don't worry about it and just skip reading this post.
You show me nothing but pure arrogance, and you have the
nerve to say something like this when I retaliate?
After this post:
So... by ignoring my post I assume you admit that there's no consistent logical criteria for choosing the characters? That you just go with what you feel like?
What did you
think was going to happen? That I was going to be sweet and nice-like as I respond to your previous post with the upmost kindness?
Here's a tip: If you want to reinstate that someone has yet to reply to your points,
just remind the person they haven't responded to them.
If you had done that instead of acting as though I admitted to anything, I wouldn't have been infuriated and lashed out at you. (And quite frankly, you are lucky I held off before I responded, otherwise, you would have been hit with
much worse than what you got.)
No. I was signalling to you that those were the main points so that you knew they were the things I most valued being addressed. This thread uses a very small font compared to most forums to begin with so I didn't think that it would be so intrusive to you.
Being in many forums in my day, I have learned to associate large font with ignorant newbs that thing large font makes their arguments more sound.
Seeing as that was not your intention, I apologize. But let me give you advice: You want to make your main points more noticeable without being annoying,
bold them instead of increasing the font size and/or change the color.
I didn't say that being iconic was the main thing. I said that being iconic is a "valid consideration", just like the Brawl quote is.
It really isn't. They were iconic prior to Brawl, and were deemed "too casual" to be included as characters. Still being iconic
now isn't going to make much difference. At most, it will probably give them cameos somewhere like in a Nintendo Land stage or a Wuhu Island stage.
Half the Pokemon and Mario characters are not iconic.
An iconic character would be the first characters that come to mind when you think of a popular series/platform, often used in marketing and are recognisable by the series they represent.
i.e. "Pikachu is an icon of the pokemon series, Snorlax is not"
This is where you are wrong. Even common enemies like the GOOMBA are memorable, recogniseable, and iconic to the Mario series. And even used in marketing.
Same with the Pokemon,
including the human characters such as Pokemon Trainer Red.
Mii's are one of the first things that come to mind when you think of the Wii/Wii U as well as a few extremely popular Wii game series.
Sakurai may no longer see Mii as a generic avatar due to this status and synonymity with the Wii platforms.
Again, it was the same way during Brawl's time (the only difference is that the Wii U did not exist). They were still "too casual".
And in both cases, Miis are not popular requests for inclusion. Giving Sakurai
less of a reason to include them.
I believe I've already distinguished the difference here. Mii has had a change in status with the huge success of it's games and becoming a symbol of Nintendo's Wii era.
It was already a symbol.
Mii's chance of getting into a smash game is almost 0%?
Certainly not an opinion shared by many other people and seems influenced by your emotional feelings towards the subject. I would personally rate Mii's chances at closer to 25%. A relatively high figure compared to most on the chart.
The only thing you have going for them is that "Sakurai could change his mind because they are iconic". I personally am indifferent about the Miis in general; neither positive nor negative about them in emotion. However, I will not deny that things are not looking good for them.
And compared to most on the chart? Lol, I'd LOVE to see your reasoning behind that. I'm good for a laugh.
You make some valid points here and I agree that relatively few people care about Mii. But still more than people cared about Mr Game and Watch or R.O.B of whom are inclusions of similar like (Representations of Nintendo periods or ideas. Mii is a representation of the Mii period and the revolutionary idea of Wii motion that changed console gaming history).
Unless you have valid proof that more people care about Miis than they did R.O.B. or G&W, don't use it as fact.